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C2E2 Variant Drama
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On 8/13/2022 at 3:07 PM, ExNihilo said:

So he bought it at C2E2...and then turned around to sell it...and made $150.  No offense, but dude looks like he's in his moms basement (but I guess a lot of people film in sparsely decorated spaces).

He sold it for 1.8k. I think he bought it at $750.

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On 8/13/2022 at 2:03 PM, DrunkWooky said:

Just poking the bear, huh? You guys gotta remember that Disney and Sonny Bono are the folks that lobbied Congress to extend the corporate ownership of copyrights. 
 

An MF-ing act of Congress! You think they won’t come after your tiny acetate for this type of Effery?

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With this one and the Homer one , I do not think these are acetate, but where they actually had Clayton Crane sketch/paint those on the actual books . 

Although I really do hope they are on acetate so that this mess gets shut down 

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On 8/13/2022 at 11:17 AM, ak47po said:

Sucker born every minute. 
 

 

To me this guy perfectly illustrates the mentality of many modern buyers and illustrates what's wrong with the hobby.  He's talking about what to buy to flip and the potential profit and the risk.  At one point he says 'some people buy to collect' and then does a thumbs up and it's clear he doesn't buy to collect and likely doesn't read or care about comics, other than the potential profit he can make.

And why did he buy a 9.9 copy of this book?  Black Flag wasn't even on his radar.  He check online posts and saw the controversy and decided to take a chance and buy it.  He doesn't care about the quality of the art of the variant cover or the art on the acetate.  He just cares that this book is controversial, that 'influencers' and online media are talking about it, and that he might make some money flipping it.

I don't know how many followers this guy has.  I'd imagine not many, as while I didn't dislike the guy, I found him a bit scattered and he really had nothing interesting or insightful to add.  We have websites pushing this book, we have influencers buying and pushing this book, and then we have guys like this adding to the discussion.  They all seek attention and followers and they all are getting it in spades.

This    Won't   End   Well

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On 8/13/2022 at 12:38 PM, thehumantorch said:

To me this guy perfectly illustrates the mentality of many modern buyers and illustrates what's wrong with the hobby.  He's talking about what to buy to flip and the potential profit and the risk.  At one point he says 'some people buy to collect' and then does a thumbs up and it's clear he doesn't buy to collect and likely doesn't read or care about comics, other than the potential profit he can make.

And why did he buy a 9.9 copy of this book?  Black Flag wasn't even on his radar.  He check online posts and saw the controversy and decided to take a chance and buy it.  He doesn't care about the quality of the art of the variant cover or the art on the acetate.  He just cares that this book is controversial, that 'influencers' and online media are talking about it, and that he might make some money flipping it.

I don't know how many followers this guy has.  I'd imagine not many, as while I didn't dislike the guy, I found him a bit scattered and he really had nothing interesting or insightful to add.  We have websites pushing this book, we have influencers buying and pushing this book, and then we have guys like this adding to the discussion.  They all seek attention and followers and they all are getting it in spades.

This    Won't   End   Well

this is what I keep saying-manufactured collectibles and speculation equals tulip bulbs.  There will be a crash at some point.

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On 8/13/2022 at 12:49 PM, ExNihilo said:

At the 9:05 mark of the video he says he made $150.

:popcorn:

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On 8/12/2022 at 3:09 PM, straylight said:

you missed a vital part of what he said. He said no one cut in front of the blue line. people 100% jumped ahead and went straight to the table where there was a gap to buy books (cutting the line, just not the blue line people were in)

Considering you just joined yesterday are you him? :ohnoez:

My point was that to make that diagram and then post it on YouTube like it was something out of a Mission Impossible movie was super weird and cringy.  I really didnt care much about his underlying points of view.

 

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On 8/13/2022 at 12:38 PM, thehumantorch said:

I don't know how many followers this guy has.  I'd imagine not many, as while I didn't dislike the guy, I found him a bit scattered and he really had nothing interesting or insightful to add.

To be honest, this is how I imagine most comic "influencers" are which is why I can't fathom there being a significant enough number of viewers/followers for anyone to really be an "influencer".  Let's be honest, I think a fair number of collectors do fall into the Simpsons Comic Book Guy stereotype and I can't see people being socially outgoing enough to stream themselves.  I'll admit, it's probably an incredibly difficult thing to do filming yourself with the potential that your video could be seen by millions.  I just think comic book fans (traditionally) would probably have a more difficult time than say the person who ran boosters in high school or the sales person at work who's job it is every day to schmooze corporate clients.

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On 8/13/2022 at 3:57 PM, ExNihilo said:

To be honest, this is how I imagine most comic "influencers" are which is why I can't fathom there being a significant enough number of viewers/followers for anyone to really be an "influencer".  Let's be honest, I think a fair number of collectors do fall into the Simpsons Comic Book Guy stereotype and I can't see people being socially outgoing enough to stream themselves.  I'll admit, it's probably an incredibly difficult thing to do filming yourself with the potential that your video could be seen by millions.  I just think comic book fans (traditionally) would probably have a more difficult time than say the person who ran boosters in high school or the sales person at work who's job it is every day to schmooze corporate clients.

My guess is that many of these “influencers” are people who missed out on the huge bubble/bonanza in 2012 when every new image book was pulling $20 the week of release and WD #1 was “going to the moon.” They likely missed out on the Sixth Gun #1 bonanza or were left holding the bag. They don’t care about the hobby. They just heard about all those books in 2012 from a friend who does collect and care. 

They all thought they were going to “make fat stacks” flipping comics, but were left with worthless Image #1s from 2013-2015. They started these YouTube channels to drive hype for their worthless books and create heat for other books they have laying around when they used to collect 15 years ago. 

Just watching most of them, you can tell they have no identity or motivation. They follow what someone tells them they should like and are drawn to the easiest way to make a dollar (ethical or not). 

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On 8/13/2022 at 3:09 PM, awakeintheashes said:

 They follow what someone tells them they should like and are drawn to the easiest way to make a dollar (ethical or not). 

And CGC tells them this s-hit is legit.

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On 8/13/2022 at 1:09 PM, awakeintheashes said:

My guess is that many of these “influencers” are people who missed out on the huge bubble/bonanza in 2012 when every new image book was pulling $20 the week of release and WD #1 was “going to the moon.” They likely missed out on the Sixth Gun #1 bonanza or were left holding the bag. They don’t care about the hobby. They just heard about all those books in 2012 from a friend who does collect and care. 

They all thought they were going to “make fat stacks” flipping comics, but were left with worthless Image #1s from 2013-2015. They started these YouTube channels to drive hype for their worthless books and create heat for other books they have laying around when they used to collect 15 years ago. 

Just watching most of them, you can tell they have no identity or motivation. They follow what someone tells them they should like and are drawn to the easiest way to make a dollar (ethical or not). 

man my strategy has always been just look for books that were undervalued like FF annual #6 or Thor 134 and whatnot buy a bunch of em.  First annihlus?  first franklin richards?  firs high evolutionary?  these books are still $10 books-I'm gonna buy a lot of em.  Years later they indeed popped.

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