Overstreet now has a subscription service??? 2 2

[jaybuck43]

Apparently last month Overstreet  announced that they will now have a subscription service.  Various tiers are available and described as follows:
 

• Free. Access to browse comic database and view basic data, as well as meta data about publishers, titles, issues, story arcs, characters, and contributors
• Bronze $3 a month – with a two-week free trial.. Access to browse comic database and view basic data, as well as meta data about publishers, titles, issues, story arcs, characters, and contributors. View pricing information. Access to special editorial content.
• Silver $5 a month – with a two-week free trial. Access to browse comic database and view basic data, as well as meta data about publishers, titles, issues, story arcs, characters, and contributors. View pricing information. Access to special editorial content. Add issues to want list. Access to collection management (1 Collection) up to 5000 issues. Ability to add preferred retailers. Access to mobile app
• Gold $9 a month – with a two-week free trial.. Access to browse comic database and view basic data, as well as meta data about publishers, titles, issues, story arcs, characters, and contributors. View pricing information. Access to special editorial content. Add issues to want list. Access to collection management (Up to 5 Collections). Unlimited Issues. Ability to add preferred retailers. Access to mobile app. Discounts for other GFE products (not currently available)

SO basically for $3 a month you get access to their pricing information.  I'm really curious how this eats into sales of the guide (since Bronze is about the same price annually) Also, who is clamoring for over street to have an online service? They've been knocked for years about being slow to update prices, so why do I need a monthly subscription to see "no change"?  Anyone here subscribed?  I'd love to hear thoughts.  

[Buzzetta]

On 8/7/2022 at 7:05 PM, jaybuck43 said:

Apparently last month Overstreet  announced that they will now have a subscription service.  Various tiers are available and described as follows:
 

• Free. Access to browse comic database and view basic data, as well as meta data about publishers, titles, issues, story arcs, characters, and contributors
• Bronze $3 a month – with a two-week free trial.. Access to browse comic database and view basic data, as well as meta data about publishers, titles, issues, story arcs, characters, and contributors. View pricing information. Access to special editorial content.
• Silver $5 a month – with a two-week free trial. Access to browse comic database and view basic data, as well as meta data about publishers, titles, issues, story arcs, characters, and contributors. View pricing information. Access to special editorial content. Add issues to want list. Access to collection management (1 Collection) up to 5000 issues. Ability to add preferred retailers. Access to mobile app
• Gold $9 a month – with a two-week free trial.. Access to browse comic database and view basic data, as well as meta data about publishers, titles, issues, story arcs, characters, and contributors. View pricing information. Access to special editorial content. Add issues to want list. Access to collection management (Up to 5 Collections). Unlimited Issues. Ability to add preferred retailers. Access to mobile app. Discounts for other GFE products (not currently available)

SO basically for $3 a month you get access to their pricing information.  I'm really curious how this eats into sales of the guide (since Bronze is about the same price annually) Also, who is clamoring for over street to have an online service? They've been knocked for years about being slow to update prices, so why do I need a monthly subscription to see "no change"?  Anyone here subscribed?  I'd love to hear thoughts.  

 

This thread is getting as much action as someone gambling at the "Island of Irrelevance Casino" with Canadian Confederate Dollars after the Canadian Civil War. 

[Iceman399]

On 8/7/2022 at 9:19 PM, Buzzetta said:

 

This thread is getting as much action as someone gambling at the "Island of Irrelevance Casino" with Canadian Confederate Dollars after the Canadian Civil War. 

Don't bring @greggy vs the east into this

[Lightning55]

Even if they only update the prices annually, it will probably work for some people.  As noted, the Bronze level is about the same as buying the hard copy, but you don't have to carry it around with you in book form.  As a web app, your phone is probably all you need.  If it has more frequent updating than annually, that could be useful to many more people.  I'm sure they would love to move everyone to digital, cut out the cost of producing the paper versions.

The higher tiers don't sound too appealing - measuring what you get extra for the extra $$$.  But maybe the collection management is valuable to some, especially if you are already paying for that somewhere separately.

[theCapraAegagrus]

Sounds awful.

[theCapraAegagrus]

Overstreet should pay me for keeping this hard copy that has Dylan listed as an advisor.

[Stefan_W]

Overstreet still charges money for their stuff?

[Aman619]

The new Overstreet subscription service is only for their new Collectors valuation online service.  Like the others out there people have used to catalog their collections, it gives you all data on each comic: covers, stories, key data, characters appearing, writers artists etc etc.  and it calculates the value of your comic in the grade you specify. And to their credit, links and lists all issues part of the ongoing crossover storylines too. Extinction agenda and etc. 

but, the oversteet guide price data is completely hidden!   You never get to see all Overstreet grade values!  So it’s NOT — I repeat — NOT the Guide at all.   Just gives you one value for each comic you list as in your collection.  And you can only list 5000 comics iirc.

in other words, this is not the drone we are looking for!

[ADAMANTIUM]

On 8/8/2022 at 6:35 PM, Aman619 said:

The new Overstreet subscription service is only for their new Collectors valuation online service.  Like the others out there people have used to catalog their collections, it gives you all data on each comic: covers, stories, key data, characters appearing, writers artists etc etc.  and it calculates the value of your comic in the grade you specify. And to their credit, links and lists all issues part of the ongoing crossover storylines too. Extinction agenda and etc. 

but, the oversteet guide price data is completely hidden!   You never get to see all Overstreet grade values!  So it’s NOT — I repeat — NOT the Guide at all.   Just gives you one value for each comic you list as in your collection.  And you can only list 5000 comics iirc.

in other words, this is not the drone we are looking for!

That is interesting. I'm still interested if it keeps an updated sale/price/value of all your comics, without having to further research your books. Idk might be kind of neat, as I dont currently have anything that does it automatically. I've done all the inputting for the registry and boy was that an ordeal, probably enough to keep up with. Especially when you dont join the minute of obtaining the 1st slab.

Edited August 8, 2022 by ADAMANTIUM

[ADAMANTIUM]

As long as it's not the guide value, but is the current fmv, which it doesnt sound like it is.

On 8/8/2022 at 6:44 PM, ADAMANTIUM said:

That is interesting. I'm still interested if it keeps an updated sale/price/value of all your comics, without having to further research your books. Idk might be kind of neat, as I dont currently have anything that does it automatically. I've done all the inputting for the registry and boy was that an ordeal, probably enough to keep up with. Especially when you dont join the minute of obtaining the 1st slab.

 

[Aman619]

On 8/8/2022 at 7:44 PM, ADAMANTIUM said:

That is interesting. I'm still interested if it keeps an updated sale/price/value of all your comics, without having to further research your books. Idk might be kind of neat, as I dont currently have anything that does it automatically. I've done all the inputting for the registry and boy was that an ordeal, probably enough to keep up with. Especially when you dont join the minute of obtaining the 1st slab.

Yes. From what I know of the other collecting platforms out there, it seems like it’s a step forward in some areas.  Having been built years after the rest, from scratch, they did a good job. But your values will be Overstreet values. And the Guide is only for raw books, and isn’t up to date with the current sales…. So the question you need to ask is does that work with your collection? Or are you looking for a value for slabbed books.  
 

and I’m curious how Overstreet calculates grade values ABOVE 9.2.  If they have built this , and have an official Overstreet formula for higher grade copies, why not add it to the print — official — Guide framework?  
 

inmean except for the fact that they can’t add 4 more columns!!

[lou_fine]

On 8/8/2022 at 9:51 PM, Aman619 said:

And the Guide is only for raw books,

I've heard this point being made by quite a few collectors, but i don't believe it's actually true.  

I believe the guide is based upon a combination of prices for both certified books and raw books, with the key being the normal sales avenue that a particuar book is sold in.  For example, key high dollar value GA books is generally always sold after being certified, so prices for these books would be based upon their certified sales results because there are no raw sales results to go upon.  At the other end, most non-key non uber HG MA books are sold in raw condition, so guide values would be based upon raw sales results, because the only real certified sales results would be for CGC 9.8 or possibly CGC 9.6 graded copies and as we all know, the top of guide is only for 9.2 condition books.  

Hence, what I am saying is the the guide valuations are really based upon how a particular books is normally sold, whether it be in raw condition or in certified condition, or in some cases, probably even a combination of both.  

[Aman619]

yes. that's true, Overstreet includes CGC sales in their valuations since all the big books mainly sell slabbed.  I was referring to the still common but waning belief by dealers (in the face of the Guide's advancing obsolescence to many collectors)  that the Guide prices are mostly valid and accurate for most raw books, books that are not in high demand, and mid to lower grade (except for exceptions).  Anyway If they now price issues in the higher grades for their new online collectors, maybe soon we see them extend that.  THAT will be interesting... If accurate, it could jolt the brand.

or not 

 

Edited August 9, 2022 by Aman619

[Aman619]

hey I just found out that if you select a grade above Guide top grade of 9.2, the value stays the same.  So no calculation of higher grade valuations happenning.

[ttfitz]

On 8/9/2022 at 6:36 PM, Aman619 said:

hey I just found out that if you select a grade above Guide top grade of 9.2, the value stays the same.  So no calculation of higher grade valuations happenning.

From a blog post on their site, https://www.overstreetaccess.com/overstreet-prices-above-9-2/

As we start out, astute collectors will quickly notice that the prices for grades above 9.2 are the same as the prices for 9.2. Clearly, this does not reflect the market.

For those of you familiar with print version of The Overstreet Comic Book Price Guide, you already know we have not previously supplied those prices as they were simply considered too volatile to establish in an annual publication (As several collectors have good naturedly put it, “The madness begins at 9.4!”).

Here on Overstreet Access, however, this will not be the case.

Since our name is Overstreet, though, we’ll be doing it right rather than doing it fast.

The Guide has a tremendous history of being accurate over the long haul, and we’re not trading away that for some quick fix. We’re not going to put up prices just to have them there, only to have them be wrong. You deserve better, and you’re going to get it.

Over the days, weeks, and months ahead, though, Overstreet Access will indeed begin supplying updated prices for grades 9.4 and higher. In fact, we will have a significant number of comics priced in those grades by October 26.

In fact, some prices will be updated even before that. And when they are updated, the estimated values of those comics in your collection will automatically update as well.

There’s already an incredible amount of research going on, and we look forward to sharing the results of that number crunching with you here.

[Lightning55]

I used to have a digital version of OPG #45 that I downloaded from Heritage, at about the same price as the hard copy.  I guess that format is not available anymore, as I could find no mention of anything recent of that nature on Google.

[Aman619]

On 8/9/2022 at 10:58 PM, ttfitz said:

From a blog post on their site, https://www.overstreetaccess.com/overstreet-prices-above-9-2/

As we start out, astute collectors will quickly notice that the prices for grades above 9.2 are the same as the prices for 9.2. Clearly, this does not reflect the market.

For those of you familiar with print version of The Overstreet Comic Book Price Guide, you already know we have not previously supplied those prices as they were simply considered too volatile to establish in an annual publication (As several collectors have good naturedly put it, “The madness begins at 9.4!”).

Here on Overstreet Access, however, this will not be the case.

Since our name is Overstreet, though, we’ll be doing it right rather than doing it fast.

The Guide has a tremendous history of being accurate over the long haul, and we’re not trading away that for some quick fix. We’re not going to put up prices just to have them there, only to have them be wrong. You deserve better, and you’re going to get it.

Over the days, weeks, and months ahead, though, Overstreet Access will indeed begin supplying updated prices for grades 9.4 and higher. In fact, we will have a significant number of comics priced in those grades by October 26.

In fact, some prices will be updated even before that. And when they are updated, the estimated values of those comics in your collection will automatically update as well.

There’s already an incredible amount of research going on, and we look forward to sharing the results of that number crunching with you here.

Well this is certainly is the only direction they can go with Access.  Many of the customers looking for a reliable easy to use collection online catalog database will be modern collectors with lots of 9.8s. The big draw is to approach a stock portfolios usability, log in get your current values.  Wouldn’t that be nice?  Lol  Of course our hobby is still far from that state as a whole, but specific pockets of titles and issues CAN already be tracked with daily prices. So go for it Bob!

[Lightning55]

Can anyone using Overstreet Access tell me if you can view a page of values, like you do in the hard copy of the guide?  You know, to see where the bumps in price are (keys), or which way the prices trend in a specific range? 

Or can you only look up 1 comic, 1 grade, at a time? - Thanks

[lou_fine]

On 5/3/2023 at 12:45 AM, Lightning55 said:

Can anyone using Overstreet Access tell me if you can view a page of values, like you do in the hard copy of the guide?  You know, to see where the bumps in price are (keys), or which way the prices trend in a specific range? 

Even better yet, can you please let us kniw if they've actually implemented this part of their blog here, since it's now well past October 26th:  

On 8/9/2022 at 7:58 PM, ttfitz said:

Over the days, weeks, and months ahead, though, Overstreet Access will indeed begin supplying updated prices for grades 9.4 and higher. In fact, we will have a significant number of comics priced in those grades by October 26.

 

[Aman619]

On 5/3/2023 at 3:45 AM, Lightning55 said:

Can anyone using Overstreet Access tell me if you can view a page of values, like you do in the hard copy of the guide?  You know, to see where the bumps in price are (keys), or which way the prices trend in a specific range? 

Or can you only look up 1 comic, 1 grade, at a time? - Thanks

I signed up early to test it out and that was one of the negative surprises. Each comic shows a specific value for just the grade you give it.  It’s a calculation from the usual Guide grade values.  The Guide in lost form is not available in Access.  Makes sense from Overstreets ongoing protection of their data, but you’d think a subscrober would be allowed to view their pricing —. All of it — not just book by book..  I assume their intention and perhaps research concluded that their audience only cares about the value of the books in their collection.