Ulrick Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Hello all! Was wondering what kind of a bump in grade that damage would get. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrick Posted October 30, 2022 Author Share Posted October 30, 2022 Your right. Was thinking of when i bump my car into something. In that perspective it sounded negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning55 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 It would likely depend on what the comic graded generally. If it is a high grade comic beyond the damage, that would be a significant drop. If VG already, maybe not so much. If you provide full images, you might get better feedback. grendelbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrick Posted October 31, 2022 Author Share Posted October 31, 2022 There seems to be nothing more than that and slightly rounded buttom right corner. Other than that looks like 9.4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning55 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Paper loss is a major problem, more impactful than a crease, a stain, or even a clean tear. I'm thinking the 5.0 range, plus or minus a bit. Maybe someone has a comic in a similar situation that was graded, to compare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCOComics Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 If you can post full front and back cover photos it would be easier to help with the impact. Better yet, post pictures in the spare a grade section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 On 10/30/2022 at 9:11 PM, KCOComics said: If you can post full front and back cover photos it would be easier to help with the impact. Better yet, post pictures in the spare a grade section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrick Posted October 31, 2022 Author Share Posted October 31, 2022 Let me formulate this in another way. That damage alone, would it be consider moderate or major? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAR1979 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) IMHO from these pics I see Heavy Moderate on Back, light Moderate on front Edited October 31, 2022 by MAR1979 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanfingh Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 On 10/31/2022 at 8:19 AM, Ulrick said: Let me formulate this in another way. That damage alone, would it be consider moderate or major? Thanks. All of the answers you've gotten so far are on point. Grading is just as much art as science. And the over-all aesthetic of an otherwise high grade book would be hurt much more by that damage than a book in the 4.0-8.0 range - thus the requests to see the whole book and try to assess what that flaw would do to the actual book in question. Also, from the pictures you are showing, there is foxing or pre-foxing on that paper. So your initial assessment of "otherwise 9.4" is dubious at best. MAR1979 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCOComics Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 On 10/31/2022 at 8:19 AM, Ulrick said: Let me formulate this in another way. That damage alone, would it be consider moderate or major? Thanks. As others have said, it depends on the overall condition of the book. If the book is otherwise NM, it could have a significant impact. If your book is otherwise VG, these defects would be more permissable in that range and the impact could be minimal. Without seeing the entire book, it's really impossible to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrick Posted October 31, 2022 Author Share Posted October 31, 2022 If it was not on sale and would be attractive to anyone in the hobby i would gladly put the picture of the whole book. Other than a small wear on the button right corner and that Mice bite damage, the need for a clean and press, that book is mint. Just trying to figure out what kind of a offer i should make. It's currently price between a 7.0 and a 7.5 Problem is, there's a gap of 4000$ between the 2. 500$ between 6.5 and 7.0, and 1250$ between a 7.5 and a 8.0. That's the dilemma. Thank you all for your time Sincerely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qalyar Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) On 10/31/2022 at 12:10 PM, Ulrick said: If it was not on sale and would be attractive to anyone in the hobby i would gladly put the picture of the whole book. Other than a small wear on the button right corner and that Mice bite damage, the need for a clean and press, that book is mint. Just trying to figure out what kind of a offer i should make. It's currently price between a 7.0 and a 7.5 Problem is, there's a gap of 4000$ between the 2. 500$ between 6.5 and 7.0, and 1250$ between a 7.5 and a 8.0. That's the dilemma. Thank you all for your time Sincerely. We ask for whole-book pictures to evaluate grades because comic book grading isn't a system where specific faults have specific point value adjustments. With that said, if this book is priced like a 7.0 or 7.5, it is probably overpriced. Also, I really don't think this is a "mint, except for..." book. To start with, I assume that third picture is a damaged interior page. It's hard to tell with your ridiculous cropping. If so, is it the only one? Regardless of that, despite your cropping, I see areas that look like light foxing or tanning. In this front-cover image, at bottom left, around the CCA logo and the word "Authority": And here, in most of the field, but especially just above center and again at bottom-left: How much that's likely to affect the grade depends on, frankly, the rest of the book. Bottom line is that any number provided on the basis of these tiny corner images alone is only a hair better than guesswork; that's not how grading works. But I am certain that this copy is an attractive book that presents very well for its grade; however, technical grades are not -- and are not intended to be -- a measure of a book's aesthetic appeal. Edited October 31, 2022 by Qalyar bighairjer, MAR1979 and grendelbo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendelbo Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 On 10/30/2022 at 6:11 PM, Lightning55 said: It would likely depend on what the comic graded generally. If it is a high grade comic beyond the damage, that would be a significant drop. If VG already, maybe not so much. If you provide full images, you might get better feedback. On 10/31/2022 at 11:38 AM, Qalyar said: We ask for whole-book pictures to evaluate grades because comic book grading isn't a system where specific faults have specific point value adjustments. With that said, if this book is priced like a 7.0 or 7.5, it is probably overpriced. Also, I really don't think this is a "mint, except for..." book. To start with, I assume that third picture is a damaged interior page. It's hard to tell with your ridiculous cropping. If so, is it the only one? Regardless of that, despite your cropping, I see areas that look like light foxing or tanning. In this front-cover image, at bottom left, around the CCA logo and the word "Authority": And here, in most of the field, but especially just above center and again at bottom-left: How much that's likely to affect the grade depends on, frankly, the rest of the book. Bottom line is that any number provided on the basis of these tiny corner images alone is only a hair better than guesswork; that's not how grading works. But I am certain that this copy is an attractive book that presents very well for its grade; however, technical grades are not -- and are not intended to be -- a measure of a book's aesthetic appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...