Nschenks Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 (edited) Hey everyone! I know moderns are probably a little boring for all of you, but I greatly appreciate any input you can give. This particular issue is close to my heart because I grew up watching the show (along with the original animated series). I'm pretty damn excited to now have the first run of the comics. Notable defects that I see are some color-breaking spine ticks on the front and back covers, spine wear, a bit of wear on the bottom back cover near the spine, and a very small tear (somewhere between 1/16 and 1/32 of an inch) on the top right back cover a couple inches left of the spine. Mainly posting here because I'm really not sure how much such a tear will affect the grade (and I'm curious to learn!). Let me know what y'all think! Edited April 16, 2023 by Nsschenks Tricky Pringles 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scburdet Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 tear of that type/length caps the grade around 9.2. Maybe 9.4 for an otherwise perfect book since it's on the back. I'd guess this grades out at 9.0/9.2 with a standard press to take care of any minor handling issues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nschenks Posted February 2, 2023 Author Share Posted February 2, 2023 On 2/2/2023 at 2:55 PM, scburdet said: tear of that type/length caps the grade around 9.2. Maybe 9.4 for an otherwise perfect book since it's on the back. I'd guess this grades out at 9.0/9.2 with a standard press to take care of any minor handling issues Thanks for the feedback! As a rule, is it a good idea to C&P any book of a certain value (say, $200 and up), even if it's hard to discern if it needs one or not? I have a few books that to my layman's eye look pretty good, but I also know it's easy to miss indents/creases/rolls/etc. I figure $12 and the presser's CGC discount probably worth it even for newer books, but I'd love your input! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scburdet Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 On 2/2/2023 at 4:39 PM, Nsschenks said: I figure $12 and the presser's CGC discount probably worth it even for newer books That's my rule of thumb, I having everything pressed b/c wasting the occasional $20 (or less) expense will avoid missing a few finger bends that cost a grade or 2 and then having to consider the hassle/expense of going through the whole process again. TBF I have very few "perfect" books that wouldn't benefit from a basic press. Nschenks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars76 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 9.2. Very cool book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendelbo Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 On 2/2/2023 at 12:43 PM, Nsschenks said: I know moderns are probably a little boring for all of you, It's only because we prefer Hostess Twinkie ads to lame 2000 Pop Tarts prize propaganda. You'll probably want to press it but it's a 9.4. Thanks for sharing. Nschenks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nschenks Posted February 3, 2023 Author Share Posted February 3, 2023 On 2/2/2023 at 10:27 PM, grendelbo said: It's only because we prefer Hostess Twinkie ads to lame 2000 Pop Tarts prize propaganda. You'll probably want to press it but it's a 9.4. Thanks for sharing. I’d love to see those ads on modern books. If it’s gonna be a product ad at least make it interesting y’ know? I bet 9 times out of 10 a person reading any given book couldn’t remember a single ad. Subliminal i guess 🤷🏻♂️ grendelbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scburdet Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 On 2/2/2023 at 11:27 PM, grendelbo said: Hostess Twinkie Comics convinced me that Hostess Fruit pies were the bees knees. Even as a kid, I believe they were always disappointing grendelbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1950's war comics Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 NM+ FoggyNelson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nschenks Posted April 16, 2023 Author Share Posted April 16, 2023 (edited) Was hoping for a notch higher on this one, but this is still within the range I expected. Annoyingly, though, a small piece of plastic in the holder on the back of the book. Very bottom and pretty small so may not do ME, but we'll see... Edited April 16, 2023 by Nsschenks scburdet and grendelbo 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JollyComics Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 No grader note. Shamed. I have several copies with small tears and VERY minimal spine wears. All are 8.5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scburdet Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 On 4/16/2023 at 8:12 PM, JollyComics said: No grader note I have a hypothesis that the more likely a defect can be seen through the holder, the less likely it is to be described, especially in the NM range. That's the most charitable explanation I have for getting more 9.0s back without notes. I don't know if anyone else has noticed this, or I'm just full of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nschenks Posted April 16, 2023 Author Share Posted April 16, 2023 On 4/16/2023 at 7:12 PM, JollyComics said: No grader note. Shamed. I have several copies with small tears and VERY minimal spine wears. All are 8.5. Yeah I was kind of annoyed about that. Also got a NYX 3 back 9.0 that has no notes (that one was actually higher than expected but not having notes on anything under 9.4 is kind of irritating). I really wish notes were mandatory for anything under 9.8 tbh. With a professional 3rd party grading company it seems to me consistency is kind of of utmost importance, and the inconsistency with which notes are provided (like within the notes themselves in terms of what they describe and don’t describe) doesn’t really vibe. I get that grading is subjective, but a grader choosing to provide or not provide notes shouldn’t be, imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JollyComics Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 On 4/16/2023 at 6:20 PM, scburdet said: I have a hypothesis that the more likely a defect can be seen through the holder, the less likely it is to be described, especially in the NM range. That's the most charitable explanation I have for getting more 9.0s back without notes. I don't know if anyone else has noticed this, or I'm just full of it. On 4/16/2023 at 6:21 PM, Nsschenks said: Yeah I was kind of annoyed about that. Also got a NYX 3 back 9.0 that has no notes (that one was actually higher than expected but not having notes on anything under 9.4 is kind of irritating). I really wish notes were mandatory for anything under 9.8 tbh. With a professional 3rd party grading company it seems to me consistency is kind of of utmost importance, and the inconsistency with which notes are provided (like within the notes themselves in terms of what they describe and don’t describe) doesn’t really vibe. I get that grading is subjective, but a grader choosing to provide or not provide notes shouldn’t be, imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...