Readcomix Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 (edited) Anybody else fondly remember debating this with friends when it came out in ASM annual #15? This the first time Marvel openly tiered their characters’ strength levels; “who is stronger?” debates were pretty prevalent if you grew up on silver or bronze Marvel. Edited April 5, 2023 by Readcomix Typo Morganmi, KirbyJack and comic_memories 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Readcomix Posted February 3, 2023 Author Share Posted February 3, 2023 The cover, for those who are unfamiliar comic_memories 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadroch Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 The Thing doesn't belong in his group. By 1980,he had fought many of them and came out second best every time. I'd have thought Cap still had his super-strength back then, but might be mistaken. Hank Pym never gained super strength so I don't know why Black Goliath would have. Putting him in with the Surfer is strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjonahjameson11 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 I remember it, but shortly afterwards, the official handbook to the Marvel Universe really put things into perspective as to the strength of every marvel character. the strength group Spidey was placed into for the 1981 annual was waaaaaay above his class. 🤣 skillzdadirecta and EricNeedHam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricNeedHam Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 On 2/3/2023 at 2:49 PM, shadroch said: The Thing doesn't belong in his group. By 1980,he had fought many of them and came out second best every time. I'd have thought Cap still had his super-strength back then, but might be mistaken. Hank Pym never gained super strength so I don't know why Black Goliath would have. Putting him in with the Surfer is strange. Nah....I dont recall anyone in Ben's group beating him. He and Namor were evenly matched in their Marvel 2 in 1 issue. Sasquatch, Thundra didnt beat him. Black Bolt...dont recall.....its usually against the FF. Doc Samson beat him??? The Vision.....i dont recall a fight. I think this was just a strength level grouping. The Marvel U had him at the 70 tons tier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Thor Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 I was so mad in Deadpool2, when my favorite character Colossus, was weaker than Negasonic Teenage Warhead. So incorrect. The movie writers don't read comics, evidently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Devourer Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 Here's the first Strength Chart from 1964. Namor should have also been included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Devourer Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 On 2/4/2023 at 3:31 AM, Readcomix said: Anybody else fondly remember debating this with friends when it came out in ASM annual #15? This the first time Marvel openly tiered their characters’ strength levels; “who is stronger?” debates were pretty prevalent if you grew upon silver or bronze Marvel. One glaring error: By his own admission, the Silver Surfer has Super-Heavyweight strength as he is fuelled by the Power Cosmic. Other errors: Spider-Man and Ghost Rider do not belong in the Super-Mediumweights as far weaker, but paradoxically are stronger than the other Mediumweights. The Black Panther and Captain America are considerably stronger than the other "Lightweights". skillzdadirecta 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarybethR_Boyd Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 (edited) I root for Captain America and the Hulk. The captain is always a team player, and Hulk made himself green and strong. I love to watch the movies of the Marvel Universe; they are so interesting to watch. But I need to allocate a lot of time for a complete review, and I need more because I have to solve the task. But I found a https://ca.edubirdie.com/write-my-essay-for-me that will help me write my creative assignment, and I will have free time to review it. I will encourage good days and sit down to watch everything in turn, as it should be chronological. Edited August 2, 2023 by MarybethR_Boyd Added content Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drmccoy74 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Hulk Smash but...Walt Simonson Thor is tough to beat MR SigS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Zen Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 I would put The Thing in the super-heavyweights. KirbyJack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Surfer Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Subby can hold his own against the Hulk and mop the floor with the Thing. rexinnih 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rexinnih Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Namor! Namor! Namor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NP_Gresham Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 On 2/12/2023 at 6:55 PM, World Devourer said: Here's the first Strength Chart from 1964. Namor should have also been included. This The comment “he is still only a teenager” was significant. ‘puny Parker’ in the flash Thompson HS days has been replaced by a rather ripped PP. If his strength is ‘proportional’ , he would now be in the heavy weight contender class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrlatko Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 I thought Black Bolt could just whisper at you. Now it turns out he is one of the strongest heroes also??!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makeminemarvel Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Pound for pound...Spidey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirbyJack Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 When the story writers get consistent about how strong the characters are, I’ll consider acknowledging these sorts of lists. ….but The Thing can take any of ‘em! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 On 2/3/2023 at 1:00 PM, jjonahjameson11 said: I remember it, but shortly afterwards, the official handbook to the Marvel Universe really put things into perspective as to the strength of every marvel character. the strength group Spidey was placed into for the 1981 annual was waaaaaay above his class. 🤣 Yeah Iron Man was in the wrong class too. They had him in there with Hercules, The Hulk and Thor and above the Thing, Collossus and Sasquatch. I used to obsess over strength levels when I was younger and when comics paid attention to stuff like this. Now they just don't give a mess. On 2/3/2023 at 11:49 AM, shadroch said: The Thing doesn't belong in his group. By 1980,he had fought many of them and came out second best every time. I'd have thought Cap still had his super-strength back then, but might be mistaken. Hank Pym never gained super strength so I don't know why Black Goliath would have. Putting him in with the Surfer is strange. The Thing is one of the strongest folks IN that group. Namor was only stronger than him in water and he was DEFINITELY stronger than Sasquatch and Thundra. There was a comic where Sasquatch and The Thing were facing off and he admitted himself that he wasn't as strong as Ben. I think it was in one of the Infinity series... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 Dammit... now I want this book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Readcomix Posted August 4, 2023 Author Share Posted August 4, 2023 (edited) On 8/4/2023 at 5:26 PM, skillzdadirecta said: Yeah Iron Man was in the wrong class too. They had him in there with Hercules, The Hulk and Thor and above the Thing, Collossus and Sasquatch. I used to obsess over strength levels when I was younger and when comics paid attention to stuff like this. Now they just don't give a mess. Look at what Iron Man says, though. “For about two seconds.” With extra electricity and everything channeled toward the system that gives him super-Strength, he can achieve that level for maybe half a minute. Look at Avengers #165 vs Count Nefaria, or Iron Man #132, where he lays out the Hulk with a single punch. That’s all he’s referring to. Edited August 4, 2023 by Readcomix Typo, spelling skillzdadirecta 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
