Are Comic Books 'Collectables' ? - or are they JUST Comic Books ?

[The Black Hand ®]

I think most collectible markets are niche markets with their own base of collectors. I have an off topic question. If you could have, for the same price, the original cover art, or the original comic, which would you choose? Since I'm an MLJ collector lets use Pep 22 as an example.

[krazykat-migration]

The OA,...hands down. BUT,..my point is simply that collectables are generally unique items. Comics are not unique. A primary categorical characteristic of a collectable be that the item be unique. Hence, comic books are marginalized/ distinct from the 'collectables universe'.

 

KK

 

[The Black Hand ®]

Not true. Delft pieces are collectible and they made hundreds or thouands of each particular piece.The same with stamps etc. Comics are collectible and so is original art.The OA is just much rarer since there would be only one.

[Timulty]

KK, you !!! Of, course they are collectible! Just like the job that you call OA!!! !!

 

Edit: Diatribe brought to you for the People Annoyed by KK.

 

 

I thought you hated graemlins?

 

Gave up the fight against graemlins in prior post. No point fighting against something that is entrenched to point, it is part of the system.

 

Now, as for KK....I lack critical thinking eh? Each to their own. Seems like I made a pretty good argument on your tack to promote OA here on the boards. I thought, I was being relatively polite in that circumstance. Heck, I even stopped calling you an OA PIMPER.

 

Now, back to the topic. One of the definitions I read stated that if it had another purpose other than collecting, then it was not a collectable. Stamps fit that category, because they are utilized in mailing. That would make comics not a collectable because they are utilized for reading/entertainment. Unless, it is the mass of Marvel comics published in the last 20 years.

 

That would rule out pretty much all media, including comic OA.

[shrunkenhead]

A primary categorical characteristic of a collectable be that the item be unique.

 

An item being unique is all well and good, but at the end of the day, desirability is what drives any collectible marketplace. If you have 1,000 Spidey #1s, and 10,000 buyers waiting in the wings to buy at FMV, then you win. An obvious point, I know, but anyways.

 

I could collect my father's omnipresent earwax, put it in a vial, and sell it on ebay. It would be very unique! But probably not realize as much as spidey#1.

[krazykat-migration]

Somehow I am NOT surprised alotta you are missing the whole point of the question. Timulty, your defintion is so broad [it had a purpose] as to be laughable. Shrunkenhead, the fact that there is a supply/demand curve is irrelevant.

 

The first, 'Collectables' Auction,....I believe it was sometime in the 90's. Featured mainly TV and Hollywood paraphenilia. For example, 'The Hoonymooners' ice box.

 

I can get to a point where I see OA being included in that categorical rubric but no way do comics fall into that category. I'd bet if you asked comics collector's back than most would have said - 'no we are not 'collectables', we have our own market' \.

 

KK

[The Black Hand ®]

So what category do comics (let's use GA as an example) fall under?

[Timulty]

Hey, I am just going by one of the defs, KK. Yeah, its broad. But it is a point to be made. Now, if you are sayin an item has to be unique to be collectable....

[krazykat-migration]

So what category do comics (let's use GA as an example) fall under?

 

They are simply comic books. No General Heading.

 

OA also falls into the category of 'Art' - some would say,...'fine art'.

 

KK

[Norrin_Radd]

So what category do comics (let's use GA as an example) fall under?

 

They are simply comic books. No General Heading.

 

OA also falls into the category of 'Art' - some would say,...'fine art'.

 

KK

 

Interesting point.

 

Unfortunately, it's similar to the delusion that porn stars have thinking they are in the movie business.

 

Comic book art may never be of any interest to anyone outside the hobby. And given it's current prices, of little interest to many people inside the hobby.

[krazykat-migration]

So what category do comics (let's use GA as an example) fall under?

 

They are simply comic books. No General Heading.

 

OA also falls into the category of 'Art' - some would say,...'fine art'.

 

KK

 

Interesting point.

 

Unfortunately, it's similar to the delusion that porn stars have thinking they are in the movie business.

 

Comic book art may never be of any interest to anyone outside the hobby. And given it's current prices, of little interest to many people inside the hobby.

 

There is FANTASY,..and there is REALITY.

 

How do you reconcile continual BREAKING PRICE HIGH'S ?

[Timulty]

Why would breaking price highs be a factor in this topic?

[Norrin_Radd]

So what category do comics (let's use GA as an example) fall under?

 

They are simply comic books. No General Heading.

 

OA also falls into the category of 'Art' - some would say,...'fine art'.

 

KK

 

Interesting point.

 

Unfortunately, it's similar to the delusion that porn stars have thinking they are in the movie business.

 

Comic book art may never be of any interest to anyone outside the hobby. And given it's current prices, of little interest to many people inside the hobby.

 

How do you reconcile BREAKING PRICE HIGH'S ?

 

Classic comics have been BREAKING PRICE HIGHs too. There's a correlation.

 

You may not like to hear it, but I'm thinkin' the R-squared is over 90% between classic comics and classic comic art.

[krazykat-migration]

Why would breaking price highs be a factor in this topic?

 

Sorry to think to fast for ya little guy.

 

Norin said there is 'no interest' in OA. Hence, I used the EVIDENCE of continual rising prices to rebutt his point.

 

Go back to sleep.

 

KK

[Norrin_Radd]

Why would breaking price highs be a factor in this topic?

 

Sorry to think to fast for ya little guy.

 

Norin said there is 'no interest' in OA. Hence, I used the EVIDENCE of continual rising prices to rebutt his point.

 

Go back to sleep.

 

KK

 

Thanks for putting something I didn't say in quotes, buttmunch.

 

I said what I've always said.... the market for OA is relatively small compared to comic and fine art collectors.

[krazykat-migration]

So what category do comics (let's use GA as an example) fall under?

 

They are simply comic books. No General Heading.

 

OA also falls into the category of 'Art' - some would say,...'fine art'.

 

KK

 

Interesting point.

 

Unfortunately, it's similar to the delusion that porn stars have thinking they are in the movie business.

 

Comic book art may never be of any interest to anyone outside the hobby. And given it's current prices, of little interest to many people inside the hobby.

 

How do you reconcile BREAKING PRICE HIGH'S ?

 

Classic comics have been BREAKING PRICE HIGHs too. There's a correlation.

 

You may not like to hear it, but I'm thinkin' the R-squared is over 90% between classic comics and classic comic art.

 

 

You and your comic pimpin

 

I think comics will be 'eh',..while OA will continue to surprise. Comics are a shrinking market place. OA is very small. Much room to grow.

 

KK

[krazykat-migration]

Why would breaking price highs be a factor in this topic?

 

Sorry to think to fast for ya little guy.

 

Norin said there is 'no interest' in OA. Hence, I used the EVIDENCE of continual rising prices to rebutt his point.

 

Go back to sleep.

 

KK

 

Thanks for putting something I didn't say in quotes, buttmunch.

 

I said what I've always said.... the market for OA is relatively small compared to comic and fine art collectors.

 

 

YOU ARE SO IDIOTIC.

 

Fine,..for the record,..you said "Little interest" as opposed to "no interest". YOU TAKE THE CAKE.

 

THE POINT IS STILL THE SAME.

 

YOU ARE WRONG ON EVERY FRONT.

 

KK

[Norrin_Radd]

You and your comic pimpin

 

I think comics will be 'eh',..while OA will continue to surprise. Comics are a shrinking market place. OA is very small. Much room to grow.

 

KK

 

I'm not pimpin, I'm just refuting your argument that OA is more collectible than comics are. There are what maybe 1 million comic collectors. And maybe what 10,000 comic art collectors.

 

Thank you for admitting that the OA market is very small.

 

Room to grow? At these prices? Not sure how many more people there are out there who want a $100k piece of b/w comic art with glue stains.

 

[deathlok]

As much as it saddens me, I have to agree with KK. I don't feel comic books are a "collectible", of course neither is OA a "collectible."

 

Most collectibles are those that have some items being easy to locate and some items being difficult to locate. Also collectibles have a defined set that would encompass a complete set, that way you could guage what was difficult to locate.

[Norrin_Radd]

YOU ARE SO IDIOTIC.

 

Fine,..for the record,..you said "Little interest" as opposed to "no interest". YOU TAKE THE CAKE.

 

THE POINT IS STILL THE SAME.

 

YOU ARE WRONG ON EVERY FRONT.

 

KK

 

Why do you have to yell and start with the insults when the argument isn't going your way?

 

Just admit you're wrong and move on.

 

 

BIG difference between little interest and no interest. One million comic collectors is fairly insignificant compared to the world population, but it still makes a nice sized market for the collectible.