Popular Post Krydel4 Posted March 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 8, 2023 (edited) https://www.gamesradar.com/the-classic-40s-max-fleischer-superman-cartoons-are-getting-a-new-digital-remaster/ Preservationist part of me is happy. These are my favorite superman cartoons growing up eventhough they came out many years before I was born. Edited March 8, 2023 by Krydel4 Clarity comicjack, SkOw, Mmehdy and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat-Man_America Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 On 3/8/2023 at 2:56 PM, Krydel4 said: https://www.gamesradar.com/the-classic-40s-max-fleischer-superman-cartoons-are-getting-a-new-digital-remaster/ Preservationist part of me is happy. These are my favorite superman cartoons growing up eventhough they came out many years before I was born. Finally. apparently a serious restoration, and a triple dip for me since I have the earliest DVD (VCI?) version and "Bosco" upgrade (a clear upgrade, but still lacks color depth and retained film damage and artifacts inherent in the source which didn't appear to be 35mm). Yep, a must buy; thanks for the heads-up! Mmehdy and Krydel4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krydel4 Posted March 9, 2023 Author Share Posted March 9, 2023 On 3/8/2023 at 2:13 PM, Cat-Man_America said: Finally. apparently a serious restoration, and a triple dip for me since I have the earliest DVD (VCI?) version and "Bosco" upgrade (a clear upgrade, but still lacks color depth and retained film damage and artifacts inherent in the source which didn't appear to be 35mm). Yep, a must buy; thanks for the heads-up! Triple dip for me too. Have them on VHS too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat-Man_America Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 On 3/8/2023 at 6:20 PM, Krydel4 said: Triple dip for me too. Have them on VHS too. Fingers crossed on the restoration work; hopefully there'll be no trade-offs quality wise. Haven't seen enough to draw any conclusions, but in the side by sides (unrestored verses restored) it looks like the costume colors and brightness is being boosted at the expense of depth and wider color palette. Some details are brought out, like the phone in the interior of a phone booth where Clark changes, but the richness of technicolor background and shadow on the wall and cityscape seemed muted. In the short clip provided, Superman's image looked colorful, but less three dimensional (flatter, more like animated cartoons commonly produced today). Note: I'm not pre-judging, just conveying an observation from the brief clip in the documentary from the link provided on Fleischer animation restoration. That brief clip and still shots from it ...watched on a computer screen... may not reflect what these films will actually look like. I'll pre-order this when available, but keeping my expectations in check. Losing depth and color range would be a disappointing trade-off. I've seen what pristine 16mm prints struck from 35mm negatives back in the 70's look like and hopefully that's what the restorationists are trying to achieve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDarkseid1 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 Damn didn’t see this post yesterday. Otherwise wouldn’t have created one as well lol. Anyway yeah can’t wait! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghastly542454 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Will they be released in 4K? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamstrange Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 This guy did an amateur restoration but it gives a sense of how good these might look once Warner Bros. completes their effort. SkOw, Randall Dowling, batman_fan and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDarkseid1 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 (edited) On 3/9/2023 at 4:00 PM, Ghastly542454 said: Will they be released in 4K? Warner Bros. did 4K, 16-bit scans from the original 35mm successive exposure negatives. The raw scans were then entered into the recombine process utilizing proprietary software to merge the successive exposure Technicolor negatives into a single RGB color image. The scans were done in the original theatrical aspect ratio of 1.37-to-1. Special features include a new featurette (Superman: Speeding Toward Tomorrow) and two previously-produced featurettes (First Flight: The Fleischer Superman Series – The Origins and Influence of This Groundbreaking Cartoon Series and The Man, the Myth, Superman: Exploring the Tradition of Superman Heroes on the Page and Screen). The set will be available on May 16 to purchase digitally for $14.99 from Amazon Prime Video, AppleTV, Google Play, Vudu, and other platforms, as well as for $33.99 on Blu-ray. Edited March 10, 2023 by LDarkseid1 Mmehdy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghastly542454 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 On 3/9/2023 at 4:36 PM, LDarkseid1 said: Warner Bros. did 4K, 16-bit scans from the original 35mm successive exposure negatives. The raw scans were then entered into the recombine process utilizing proprietary software to merge the successive exposure Technicolor negatives into a single RGB color image. The scans were done in the original theatrical aspect ratio of 1.37-to-1. Special features include a new featurette (Superman: Speeding Toward Tomorrow) and two previously-produced featurettes (First Flight: The Fleischer Superman Series – The Origins and Influence of This Groundbreaking Cartoon Series and The Man, the Myth, Superman: Exploring the Tradition of Superman Heroes on the Page and Screen). The set will be available on May 16 to purchase digitally for $14.99 from Amazon Prime Video, AppleTV, Google Play, Vudu, and other platforms, as well as for $33.99 on Blu-ray. Blu-ray is not the same or as good as 4K Ultra HD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDarkseid1 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 On 3/9/2023 at 4:45 PM, Ghastly542454 said: Blu-ray is not the same or as good as 4K Ultra HD. Yeah was just showing you what the details are. Ghastly542454 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghastly542454 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 On 3/9/2023 at 5:09 PM, LDarkseid1 said: Yeah was just showing you what the details are. Odd that they would scan it at 4K but not release a 4K version!😩 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamstrange Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 On 3/9/2023 at 8:41 PM, Ghastly542454 said: Odd that they would scan it at 4K but not release a 4K version!😩 The 4K Market is smaller and it costs more to produce. They typically remaster at a higher resolution to deliver an optimal scan and to allow for future distribution, either on 4K Disc or via 4k streaming. Ghastly542454 and Larryw7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aman619 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 The new remastered ones are sharper, but I dunno, these cartoons themselves always looked pretty good to my eyes. I sent away for 16mm film in the 80s. Got the FHS tapes in the 80s, and there was an app with jusy the whole set of Fleischer Supermas in the 90s too!. These are a bit overdone too, like the now black shadows on the credits in the beginning. Colors are fine Supes still punching the power rays too! never quite understood that, or pushing the "melting/curving" skyscraper without it shattering to pieces. And Supes and Lois are rotoscoped and have that super-real quality to them. so why is the villain so cartoony? not to mention his dopey pet! Dave2739 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmehdy Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Blue is back on my radar!!!!! been a while Cat-Man_America 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
