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On 4/11/2023 at 8:08 AM, paperheart said:

 

It took me awhile, but I finally realize that I am not their audience any more. I was when they made films such as Iron Man, Captain America: Winter Soldier, and Avengers Infinity War but that is ancient history.

 

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On 4/11/2023 at 10:17 AM, Artboy99 said:

It took me awhile, but I finally realize that I am not their audience any more. I was when they made films such as Iron Man, Captain America: Winter Soldier, and Avengers Infinity War but that is ancient history.

It's not you, though. I can't understand how the writers and directors sit there watching this and say, "yeah, this is what kids want to see, and adults want to pay for" because it clearly isn't. It wreaks of a "my s**t doesn't stink" way of looking at your own product.

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Yeah I dunno why Disney / Marvel is so stupid. They are aiming this trash to kids but kids don't know any of those characters( and why would they we don't know any of those characters). If a film is cool with the teenagers then also kids want to see it. Otherwise make a film with known character like Super Mario.

Better idea for Disney. Save money and don't make these films and use that money to buy Sony so you will get Spider-Man back.

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On 4/11/2023 at 10:29 AM, godzilla43 said:

Yeah I dunno why Disney / Marvel is so stupid. They are aiming this trash to kids but kids don't know any of those characters( and why would they we don't know any of those characters). If a film is cool with the teenagers then also kids want to see it. Otherwise make a film with known character like Super Mario.

Better idea for Disney. Save money and don't make these films and use that money to buy Sony so you will get Spider-Man back.

Please no, Disney has too many characters than what they know what to do with (see the current state of the MCU).  I'd rather Sony keeps making horrible Spiderman movies than watch the MCU turn Spiderman into whatever Thor has become. 

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On 4/11/2023 at 10:29 AM, godzilla43 said:

Yeah I dunno why Disney / Marvel is so stupid. They are aiming this trash to kids but kids don't know any of those characters( and why would they we don't know any of those characters). If a film is cool with the teenagers then also kids want to see it. Otherwise make a film with known character like Super Mario.

Better idea for Disney. Save money and don't make these films and use that money to buy Sony so you will get Spider-Man back.

Yes, Marvel, forget about exploring new characters and new stories and just spin your wheels with Spiderman and X-Men so we can all feel like it was when Sam Raimi and Bryan Singer ruled comics movies and just keep doing that over and over and over like some TVA time loop chamber.

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On 4/11/2023 at 11:30 AM, @therealsilvermane said:

Yes, Marvel, forget about exploring new characters and new stories and just spin your wheels with Spiderman and X-Men so we can all feel like it was when Sam Raimi and Bryan Singer ruled comics movies and just keep doing that over and over and over like some TVA time loop chamber.

Or maybe come to terms with these movies having run their course, and other than a few characters, no one is really that interested.

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On 4/11/2023 at 1:07 PM, Mr Sneeze said:

Or maybe come to terms with these movies having run their course, and other than a few characters, no one is really that interested.

Yeah, if you count the 1st X-men (2000) film as the starting point you are talking 23 years of comic movies (with the last 10 or 12 years where they dominated the box-office).  Everything runs its course and I think the studios are going to find out that other than the "Big Names", these movies are going to fade off. 

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On 4/11/2023 at 11:30 AM, @therealsilvermane said:

Yes, Marvel, forget about exploring new characters and new stories and just spin your wheels with Spiderman and X-Men so we can all feel like it was when Sam Raimi and Bryan Singer ruled comics movies and just keep doing that over and over and over like some TVA time loop chamber.

Fine explore new characters, but you see no pattern in what characters they are putting forward?

 

Comics and superheroes are and will always be a genre with a predominantly male foundation. Women have not been excluded and are in fact very welcom, but the stories and characters have been tailored to that male audience. You can not fundementally change that, and expect not to alientate people. Fans that are essential to the longevity of your brand. You need to do something to maintain your core audience, and they are not doing that. The catch 22, being you can't capture that "new" market without making foundational changes.

 

The end result is the fans you lose far exceed the fans you gain.

 

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On 4/11/2023 at 11:30 AM, @therealsilvermane said:

Yes, Marvel, forget about exploring new characters and new stories and just spin your wheels with Spiderman and X-Men so we can all feel like it was when Sam Raimi and Bryan Singer ruled comics movies and just keep doing that over and over and over like some TVA time loop chamber.

Sam Raimi's.first two Spidey films are better than anything from Disney.

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On 4/11/2023 at 10:56 AM, thegiftedone45 said:

Please no, Disney has too many characters than what they know what to do with (see the current state of the MCU).  I'd rather Sony keeps making horrible Spiderman movies than watch the MCU turn Spiderman into whatever Thor has become. 

News flash. Marvel Studios makes the MCU Spiderman movies and have near complete creative control. Sony makes the horrorific Venomverse movies and have near complete creative control. Sony distributes both. Disney owns the character wholly. 

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On 4/11/2023 at 5:18 PM, @therealsilvermane said:

News flash. Marvel Studios makes the MCU Spiderman movies and have near complete creative control. Sony makes the horrorific Venomverse movies and have near complete creative control. Sony distributes both. Disney owns the character wholly. 

That's actually not an accurate statement. With the movie No Way Home, Feige and Pascal drove all the decisions together. And even had to approach Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield together. And even with Into The Spider-Verse how this influenced ideas within the MCU.

 

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On 3/22/2023 at 12:44 PM, sfcityduck said:

Disney stock is up over 7% on the year to date.  DIS is a consensus "buy" among analysts. 

Why?

Disney revenue for the quarter ending December 31, 2022 was $23.512B, a 7.76% increase year-over-year. Disney revenue for the twelve months ending December 31, 2022 was $84.415B, a 15.66% increase year-over-year. Disney annual revenue for 2022 was $82.722B, a 22.7% increase from 2021.  

It's a tough environment for cinema and theme parks, and they seem to be bouncing back ok.

Revenue haas little meaning as a metric for success.  Profit per employee is what matters.

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