Facsimile grading question 4 4

[Robert Cuno]

So I recently got a comic back from cgc and it got a NG, but yet when I look on eBay, the exact same comic got a 9.8 (cert #416775010). The book I sent in has not 1 flaw and is the no bar code variant facsimile of amazing fantasy 15. If anyone could give me some insight as to why I would’ve gotten this grade, I would appreciate the info.

[zzutak]

This is a job for Superman  @CGC Mike. 

[CGC Mike]

On 9/14/2023 at 12:16 PM, Robert Cuno said:

So I recently got a comic back from cgc and it got a NG, but yet when I look on eBay, the exact same comic got a 9.8 (cert #416775010). The book I sent in has not 1 flaw and is the no bar code variant facsimile of amazing fantasy 15. If anyone could give me some insight as to why I would’ve gotten this grade, I would appreciate the info.

What is the cert number of the NG CGC slab?

[Lightning55]

He did a typo on the cert# in the post. According to the photo, it is 4161775010.

[Lightning55]

On 9/14/2023 at 1:28 PM, CGC Mike said:

Thanks.  Although, that is the ebay copy. 

Oops. My bad.

[CGC Mike]

Ok, I spoke with the team about this.  Here is what I was told:

If there is no UPC on the cover, we grade as NG COVERLESS. In this particular instance, it is because the no UPC version was actually the inner cover for the Sketch Edition (blank outer cover variant) that was removed.  

That other copy on ebay is the UPC edition that was NOT the sketch edition with the extra cover.

[flchris]

But that ebay copy doesn't have a barcode either and the seller is claiming it's a rare variant:

 

[CGC Mike]

Sorry.  I was given a correction for the statement I made earlier.  

"The one below should have been a NG as well."

[Topnotchman]

Is this on receiving, the graders or QC to make sure it’s correctly labeled?

[CGC Mike]

On 9/14/2023 at 8:55 PM, Topnotchman said:

Is this on receiving, the graders or QC to make sure it’s correctly labeled?

It's up to the graders to determine which variant the book is.  I think the mistake in this case was made there.

[Topnotchman]

The graders have improved as I’ve only gotten one newsstand edition mis labeled from my submissions in the past 3-4 months.  I was thinking A-I was taking over. 
 

 

[Lightning55]

On 9/14/2023 at 9:10 PM, CGC Mike said:

It's up to the graders to determine which variant the book is.  I think the mistake in this case was made there.

Then I feel bad for the graders.  There must be thousands of variants now to keep track of. 

And if it's loaded incorrectly by the submitter, the intake person would have to be knowledgeable enough to overrule the online submission.  Or a grader would have to correct it along the way. 

There will be blood.

[Robert Cuno]

On 9/14/2023 at 11:30 AM, CGC Mike said:

What is the cert number of the NG CGC slab?

4315388001