PGM Young Marvelman #25 0

[Bart Allen]

I was wondering what grade do you think this is? Would this benefit from a clean and a press? Would that increase the grade?

It has a split from the lower edge of the spine rising approximately 2 1/2 inches ~

All comments are welcomed! Thanks! 

[frozentundraguy]

That split is a killer on an otherwise nice book. Probably 4.0 tops.

[Bart Allen]

On 9/22/2023 at 4:14 PM, frozentundraguy said:

That split is a killer on an otherwise nice book. Probably 4.0 tops.

Thanks, and yeah the 2 1/2 spine split is a terrible shame ~

Could it be as low as a 3.0?

 

[Bart Allen]

Any thoughts, @marvelmaniac?

[Mars76]

Too bad about that split. It's still a great looking book, 4.0.

[Bart Allen]

On 9/27/2023 at 2:19 AM, Mars76 said:

Too bad about that split. It's still a great looking book, 4.0.

Thanks :3 So it'd be pointless for this to be cleaned and pressed? ~

[marvelmaniac]

The spine split is a killer here...

2 1/2" lower spine split, blunted/rounded corners with color loss, color breaking creases at lower right corner, edge wear with small chipping at top and bottom edge, recessed/discolored staples, some color loss in the darker blue areas at the top, minor spine stress with 1-2 color breaking spine ticks. slight spine roll, fold at top left corner of rear cover, minor discoloration of rear cover.

The book without the spine split (depending on the issue with the outer edge would, IMO be in the FN- 5.5 to FN 6.0, with the spine split and this is just my opinion, the grade will drop to at least a GD+ 2.5 to GD/VG 3.0.

FN 6.0 -  There can also be a 1/4" spine split

VG/FN 5.0 - A spine split of up to 1/2" may be present.

VG 4.0 - Moderate spine roll may be present and/or a 1" spine split. 

GD/VG 3.0 - May have a spine split of anywhere from 1" to 1-1/2". 

GD 2.0 - May have up to a 2" spine split

FR/GD 1.5 - May have a spine split between 2" and 2/3 the length of the book.

***This is a book that if it were mine I would use an archival grade tape to repair the split, only to keep it from getting worse, the tape will not affect the grade, some folks will disagree, I would rather have tape on my book (which I have a lot of) than a book that falls apart and gets worse each time it is touched, 2 1/2" taped spine split or a completely torn off front cover?

https://www.amazon.com/Lineco-Archival-Document-Repair-Tape/dp/B000P8FT2G/ref=asc_df_B000P8FT2G/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=167126147920&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=7536125016759133930&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9007574&hvtargid=pla-338126302524&th=1

I cannot find any real pics online, what is the white on the outer edge, color loss, fanned pages, it is thicker at the bottom than it is at the top.

 

[Mars76]

On 9/27/2023 at 12:56 AM, Bart Allen said:

Thanks :3 So it'd be pointless for this to be cleaned and pressed? ~

Ya, it wont improve the grade, but its still a great looking book.

[Bart Allen]

On 9/27/2023 at 5:18 PM, marvelmaniac said:

The spine split is a killer here...

2 1/2" lower spine split, blunted/rounded corners with color loss, color breaking creases at lower right corner, edge wear with small chipping at top and bottom edge, recessed/discolored staples, some color loss in the darker blue areas at the top, minor spine stress with 1-2 color breaking spine ticks. slight spine roll, fold at top left corner of rear cover, minor discoloration of rear cover.

The book without the spine split (depending on the issue with the outer edge would, IMO be in the FN- 5.5 to FN 6.0, with the spine split and this is just my opinion, the grade will drop to at least a GD+ 2.5 to GD/VG 3.0.

FN 6.0 -  There can also be a 1/4" spine split

VG/FN 5.0 - A spine split of up to 1/2" may be present.

VG 4.0 - Moderate spine roll may be present and/or a 1" spine split. 

GD/VG 3.0 - May have a spine split of anywhere from 1" to 1-1/2". 

GD 2.0 - May have up to a 2" spine split

FR/GD 1.5 - May have a spine split between 2" and 2/3 the length of the book.

***This is a book that if it were mine I would use an archival grade tape to repair the split, only to keep it from getting worse, the tape will not affect the grade, some folks will disagree, I would rather have tape on my book (which I have a lot of) than a book that falls apart and gets worse each time it is touched, 2 1/2" taped spine split or a completely torn off front cover?

https://www.amazon.com/Lineco-Archival-Document-Repair-Tape/dp/B000P8FT2G/ref=asc_df_B000P8FT2G/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=167126147920&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=7536125016759133930&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9007574&hvtargid=pla-338126302524&th=1

I cannot find any real pics online, what is the white on the outer edge, color loss, fanned pages, it is thicker at the bottom than it is at the top.

 

Thanks SO much and I'll investigate the archival grade tape usage, too :3

On 9/28/2023 at 2:02 AM, Mars76 said:

Ya, it wont improve the grade, but its still a great looking book.

Thanks a lot :3

[Yorick]

I'd give that copy a 7.0 without the split.  You just don't see L Miller's this nice.  If you plan to do conservation work, maybe look at changing the staples.  All of my Millers have some rust on the staples.

I wouldn't hold much hope of getting anything higher than a 4.0 if you send it in to be graded.  I have some nice spine split books that graded around 3.0-3.5.