ASM #252 CGC 9.8 Record Sale - something fishy going on? - Holder Tampering Incident confirmed by CGC 50 50

[Get Marwood & I]

On 12/23/2023 at 5:49 PM, sledgehammer said:

Interesting.

I found a "B. Riva", in Forest Hills NY,  but that one is 93 years old.

Are you sure that wasn't Old Man Riva?

 

[ThothAmon]

On 12/23/2023 at 12:46 PM, VintageComics said:

I didn't call you ignorant. I stated this:

On 12/23/2023 at 11:58 AM, VintageComics said:

This is not true, it's stated out of ignorance and it's this sort of speculation that is wholly unproductive.

Now I just went to public grade schools so maybe the education you received (at say Upper Canada College) was more advanced but I’m pretty sure saying someone stated something out of ignorance is exactly the same thing as calling them ignorant. What am I missing?

[Buzzetta]

On 12/23/2023 at 12:44 PM, paqart said:

I still think "briva3" is a clue to the guy's name. My guess is that it is something like "B. RivaXXXXX". So, we're talking a Ben, Brian, Byron, Bob, etc., plus a last name that either is "Riva" or starts with "Riva".

 

On 12/23/2023 at 12:49 PM, sledgehammer said:

Interesting.

I found a "B. Riva", in Forest Hills NY,  but that one is 93 years old.

 

I was going to say something related.  Paqart has something there, but you have to be careful with something like that especially in a densely populated area as Queens, NY or anywhere in the five boroughs and Long Island.  For example, there is someone with the my exact full name that lives near me.  We are not related and our age difference is around ten years. 

Riva is a common last name

Rivas is a more common last name

the 3 could be a "leet speak" version of the S for some reason. 

Considering any of that could easily lead you to the wrong person. 

[VintageComics]

In one page, we have 8 different OT posts, mostly made by the same people. 

Where are all the calls to keep the thread on topic now? 

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On 12/23/2023 at 12:50 PM, Get Marwood & I said:

Are you sure that wasn't Old Man Riva?

 

 

On 12/23/2023 at 12:28 PM, Buzzetta said:

CGC reconsidered how tape was figured into the grade on a book until around ten years ago. (I think ten give or take a year?)  What happened, was that they realized that certain people were adding modern tape to take advantage of the loophole in the grading system as to how tape applied many decades ago was considered in regard to some Golden Age and Silver Age books. 

 

 

On 12/23/2023 at 12:30 PM, Buzzetta said:

I umm might have to see that... 

 

On 12/23/2023 at 12:33 PM, Get Marwood & I said:

Do I get double points, seeing as it's Christmas Buzz?

Not that I'm condoning the practice of course. It's very silly.  

 

 

On 12/23/2023 at 12:35 PM, Buzzetta said:

I umm have no idea why you are asking me if you get double points. 

 

On 12/23/2023 at 12:44 PM, Get Marwood & I said:

 Live feed from the office:

 

 

On 12/23/2023 at 12:45 PM, trademarkcomics said:

You upstaged me...

 

...again.

 

On 12/23/2023 at 12:46 PM, Get Marwood & I said:

Sorry.

 

 

[trademarkcomics]

On 12/23/2023 at 9:51 AM, ThothAmon said:

Now I just went to public grade schools so maybe the education you received (at say Upper Canada College) was more advanced but I’m pretty sure saying someone stated something out of ignorance is exactly the same thing as calling them ignorant. What am I missing?

[Get Marwood & I]

On 12/23/2023 at 5:53 PM, VintageComics said:

In one page, we have 8 different OT posts, mostly made by the same people. 

Where are all the calls to keep the thread on topic now? 

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[Comics]

If the pic is small it's the only pic i have...

[trademarkcomics]

On 12/23/2023 at 9:53 AM, VintageComics said:

In one page, we have 8 different OT posts, mostly made by the same people. 

Where are all the calls to keep the thread on topic now? 

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[VintageComics]

On 12/23/2023 at 12:51 PM, ThothAmon said:

On 12/23/2023 at 12:46 PM, VintageComics said:

I didn't call you ignorant. I stated this:

On 12/23/2023 at 11:58 AM, VintageComics said:

This is not true, it's stated out of ignorance and it's this sort of speculation that is wholly unproductive.

Now I just went to public grade schools so maybe the education you received (at say Upper Canada College) was more advanced but I’m pretty sure saying someone stated something out of ignorance is exactly the same thing as calling them ignorant. What am I missing?

Snowflakes are much hardier in Canada than in the US it seems. 

You're a lawyer, aren't you?

If someone states something wrong, and it's not out of ignorance I can only think of lying or insanity as credible options. 

Would you have preferred either of those? 

Edited December 23, 2023 by VintageComics

[ThothAmon]

On 12/23/2023 at 12:56 PM, VintageComics said:

Snowflakes are much hardier in Canada than in the US it seems. 

You're a lawyer, aren't you?

If someone states something wrong, and it's not out of ignorance I can only think of lying or insanity as credible options. 

Would you have preferred either of those? 

I wasn’t defending his statement just analyzing your choice of words. But since you asked, when you first showed up in this thread, days after it started, and commented obviously without reading the thread or watching the videos were you ignorant, lying or insane?  Your choices not mine. 

[sledgehammer]

Wow.  I can believe you went there.

[Buzzetta]

On 12/23/2023 at 12:53 PM, VintageComics said:

In one page, we have 8 different OT posts, mostly made by the same people. 

Where are all the calls to keep the thread on topic now? 

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Roy, you fail to mention that in one response I was (respectfully I might add) responding to @paqart about tape figuring into how grades were assessed decades ago versus today. 

Also my responses were in response to the topics that others brought up within the thread. 

Are you targeting my Roy?  That would be troubling. 

I have coquito to drop off to people around town.  Be back later.  

[BigLeagueCHEW]

@Get Marwood & I @VintageComics

does this help?

Edited December 23, 2023 by BigLeagueCHEW

[mephistopheles]

On 12/23/2023 at 11:42 AM, Timed said:

I would agree; no telling what briva3 will do with the book once he gets it back. And CGC may want it to examine. At the same time, eBay requires items be sent back for refunds. Tough situation.

Just crack the case, and slide in a 1.0 copy and return it back to briva3. Then submit the book to CGC and hope it wasn't a blue/purple. Karma.

[sledgehammer]

On 12/23/2023 at 12:02 PM, BigLeagueCHEW said:

@Get Marwood & I @VintageComics

does this help?

 

 

No. Why would you do this?

[Buzzetta]

On 12/23/2023 at 1:02 PM, BigLeagueCHEW said:

@Get Marwood & I @VintageComics

does this help?

 

 

Not quoting the address you provided but I urge you to take this down for the reasons I posted here: 

 

[Stefan_W]

On 12/23/2023 at 1:02 PM, BigLeagueCHEW said:

@Get Marwood & I @VintageComics

does this help?

 

 

This seems like a very bad idea.

[BigLeagueCHEW]

On 12/23/2023 at 11:03 AM, Buzzetta said:

Not quoting the address you provided but I urge you to take this down for the reasons I posted here: 

 

I did thanks 

[Comics]

Here are some more - again if the pic is small it's all i have. If there are duplicates they are from duplicate auctions and may help. One interesting thing I found - in 2016 he sold a CBCS Hulk 181 with "CGC it " in the title. I feel even an insufficiently_thoughtful_person wouldn't do that if they had swapped out a MVS missing book for a good one...

[THE_BEYONDER]

On 12/23/2023 at 12:53 PM, VintageComics said:

In one page, we have 8 different OT posts, mostly made by the same people. 

Where are all the calls to keep the thread on topic now? 

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