Rob Liefeld is retiring 4 4

[Dr. Balls]

On 2/8/2024 at 2:38 PM, jimbo_7071 said:

I cannot imagine paying that much for any artist's autograph.

I also didn't know that people existed who like 90s comic book art, so I learned a couple of new things today.

The 'chisel' signature is the more recognizable version of his scribble 'R' autograph. Normally, I don't like my artwork 'autographed' but if I could have him sign the piece the way he signs his original covers, I'd do it. Is it worth $250? Probably not - but the towel bars that match my faucet fixtures in my bathrooms were $250 - sometimes you have to pay the price to complete the whole look.

Edited February 9 by Dr. Balls

[Dr. Balls]

On 2/8/2024 at 2:08 PM, The humble Watcher lurking said:

I just waiting for his bad girl Avengelyne movie. I got 100 copies. I ready to cash in . Lol

Man, I wish they would revisit that content for a new take on the genre for TV. Lady Death and Darkchylde's premises could be reworked for interesting TV. If the CW wanted to bring back Sam and Dean, they could cross them over with Avengelyne. As much as I hate to suggest it, but Dawn could easily host a horror anthology along the lines of existing Cry For Dawn stories. Bring in Hari Kari or Shi for some crime-centric Asian-inspired stories. Want to make American Horror Story look like Captain Kangaroo? Develop a show with Everette Hartsoe's Razor. 

Buy the properties cheap and spend the money on the creative tooling and solid acting - poof - a whole new genre of comic-based entertainment.

[joeypost]

He was at Terry’s show this weekend. I talked to him a little bit without recognizing him at first. 

[1Cool]

I honestly thought he had retired awhile ago.  Is he still drawing Deadpool books?

[ADAMANTIUM]

On 2/8/2024 at 6:42 PM, 1Cool said:

I honestly thought he had retired awhile ago.  Is he still drawing Deadpool books?

I had seen a few recent covers that looked like his, but I thought he was mostly doing signings

Which is what I thought this was mainly about, although sounds doubtful given ability and or prospects. He just summed up a signing around Dec, and other than offering a special over worked "chisel" signature (that admittedly looks pretty sometimes), that he might just be getting off the hype of being in rotation.

He might have a clear image (pun?) Of how much he's able to continue, atm

Edited February 9 by ADAMANTIUM

[MetaHuman]

Thanks. Go away and never come back!

[ttfitz]

On 2/8/2024 at 4:04 PM, The humble Watcher lurking said:

He did create Deadpool and Cable.

Co-created.

[BA773]

And never (or almost never) work for DC, thanks god! Can you imagine how could look this big torso batman

[BA773]

On 2/8/2024 at 4:59 PM, onlyweaknesskryptonite said:

God... Cutler look as a kid next to this guy 

[BA773]

On 2/9/2024 at 12:31 PM, 666-6666 said:

Stole everything from Deathstroke you mean 😆 

https://batman-news.com/2016/09/02/deathstroke-deadpool-rip-off-rob-liefeld/

If you haven't seen Rob berate his fans live on Whatnot, you guys should check it out 😆

God... this video is hilarious

[Ken Aldred]

On 2/9/2024 at 9:03 AM, BA773 said:

And never (or almost never) work for DC, thanks god! Can you imagine how could look this big torso batman

In the late 80s, when he was at DC, that would've been interesting to see as an extension of the style he used and work he did on the Hawk and Dove mini-series.  Tonally, from your post, I suspect you think it would've been nightmare fuel, but, it might possibly actually have worked in those early days.

Edited February 9 by Ken Aldred

[lostboys]

On 2/8/2024 at 6:00 PM, newshane said:

Because it is ing atrocious? 

Atrocious? ...a bit harsh, no?

 

His style was no more over the top than Sam Keith or Jae Lee's were in the 90s.

 

Other artists I also loved.

[lostboys]

On 2/9/2024 at 8:25 AM, 666-6666 said:

No! 🤣

[newshane]

 

On 2/9/2024 at 7:11 AM, lostboys said:

Atrocious? ...a bit harsh, no?

 

For the record, I said "ing atrocious." 

Edited February 9 by newshane

[lostboys]

On 2/9/2024 at 11:55 AM, newshane said:

 

For the record, I said "ing atrocious." 

[ttfitz]

On 2/9/2024 at 6:31 AM, 666-6666 said:

Stole everything from Deathstroke you mean 😆 

Well, no, I simply meant that both Cable and Deadpool had writers that were also involved in their introduction. The link you provided even said the same in regards to Deadpool,

"Deadpool was created by Rob Liefeld and Fabian Nicieza in the early 90s, while Deathstroke has been around since 1980. When Liefeld sent his co-creator his first designs of Deadpool, Nicieza replied “This is Deathstroke from the Teen Titans.”"

In the case of Cable, the writer was Louise Simonson.

[The humble Watcher lurking]

Interesting fact in the 1990s Rob Liefeld paid Alan Moore multiple thousands a month to write Supreme. So dude has money. He will be alright in retirement. 

https://forgottenawesome.blogspot.com/2020/10/liefelds-point-of-view-on-end-of.html

Edited February 9 by The humble Watcher lurking

[ttfitz]

On 2/9/2024 at 2:32 PM, 666-6666 said:

On 2/9/2024 at 2:21 PM, ttfitz said:

. When Liefeld sent his co-creator his first designs of Deadpool, Nicieza replied “This is Deathstroke from the Teen Titans.

Rob's response:

Funny, I thought of that exact thing while watching the video with his "5 things different" defense.

[The humble Watcher lurking]

On 2/9/2024 at 4:17 PM, 666-6666 said:

If he had money why did he embezzle money, use Image money to pay his Awesome artists, and perpetrate his Kickstsrter fraud??

I have no side in the fight. Just thought it was interesting that Alan Moore one of the greatest comic book writers worked for Rob Liefeld and was paid like close to upmost $50,000 a month. Not a year a month. Too me that is mind boggling. Of course it wouldn't happen today. That was the 1990's. 

Just find it interesting Alan Moore of Watchmen worked for a dude who couldn't draw feet. Lol. 

[Gatsby77]

Late to this thread but I'm a Liefeld fan - shamelessly and unapologetically.

Because he was a major artist during my childhood collecting days.

One of the first books I bought off the stands in 1989 was What If # 7 (What If Wolverine were an Agent of Shield) with art by Liefeld - I was sold by the cover and the premise.

New Mutants # 87 was my first *grail* - I mowed lawns for a summer to afford it - and eventually paid $50 for my first copy. 

And there was palpable excitement those last 6 months of New Mutants, when Cable and Wolverine first met in New Mutants # 93-94, then the Xtinction Agenda storyline, and the X-Force lead-in of 98-100.

It was an *amazing* time to be a teenage comic book fan - heck, I'll still pay $3 for Youngblood 1 when I see it at cons and I already have 5 of them.

Also - someone above noted that eventually his art devolved into blatant swipes. Umm...I'd argue he was doing blatant swipes from the beginning.

I mean, the covers of New Mutants 86, 87 and 91 are all blatant swipes.

I even bought a few of his later original art covers from his New 52 DC days.

Would love to get some decent 1990-1992-era Cable pages by Liefeld someday - but that's what childhood nostalgia does for you.