CGC graded Pulps - my first experience and results. 2 2

[Hibou]

I wrote a bit more on my page about this, but I thought I would take some of those thoughts and post them here too...

 

To say that I'm very impressed with this experience would be an understatement. 

To start with, I mailed these out with USPS Priority Mail on Monday, March 18th under CGG's High Value tier.  I placed one at a value of $500 and the other at a value of $1000.  I was very surprised to see that just a few days later, on Friday, March 22nd, they were listed as Received in the system but not only that, they were already moved into the Scheduled for Grading category! Well seven days later, on the 29th of March, they were graded and then ultimately shipped out on Tuesday, April 2nd. 

The total turn around time from the point of me sending these out on Monday morning, March 18th to me receiving them back on Saturday, April 6th was only 19 total days!  The fee for the High Value tier (max value = $1000) is more than double the cost than the Vintage tier (max value = $400) but these were two very important copies to me.

The grades I received were right in line with what I was expecting to see based on what I saw from other graded examples on line, so I was happy about that. 

As far as the holder itself, I like it a lot.

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I believe it was in the winter of 2022 when I bought that first Shadow Magazine issue from October 1, 1936 and then some months later when I found the nicer copy.  The copy on the left was my very first pulp of The Shadow that I purchased.  And then of course I thoroughly documented that purchase of the November 1, 1936 issue that I bought at PulpFest last summer in Pittsburgh. 

Again, these are the raw images...

 

 

 

 

So when I sent these into CGC, based off of what I was seeing already in graded examples, I was hoping that the October 1, 1936 issue would get somewhere between a 4.0 - 5.0 and that the November 1, 1936 issue would grade out between a 2.0 and a 3.0 based off of the chunk out of the bottom and the staining on the back cover.

Like I mentioned in the previous post, I was very impressed with the turnaround time on these and even more pleased with the CGC grades and here they are. 

These are the actual CGC scanned images and not from my scanner...

 

 

Again, I really like the quality of the slabs and they are very thick... they did a great job of making the side nice and clear so you can easily see the spine. 

I'll try a little later  to get a picture or a scan of the spines to be able to better show that.

In general, they're about twice as thick as a normal comic slab.

 

One thing I didn't realize until I was putting these books together to submit them was that both of these issues have the punched hole in the upper left corner.  I'm not sure if that was done back then to designate copies as 'remainders',as was done with comics where they would have the top third of the covers ripped off to submit back to the distributors for credit, or rather some other designation.

Regardless, I'm very, very happy with these and as of right now, the October 1, 1936 (#111) issue is the lone copy on the census, while the November 1, 1936 (#113) issue is the second highest graded with another sitting at a nice 4.5!

 

 

 

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My only true disappointment though is that there was no notation on the issue #113 (Nov.1, 1936) of Detective Comics #27. 

That would have been the ultimate icing on the cake!

 

 

Edited April 11 by Hibou

[Robot Man]

Thanks for your observations. Glad it has been a favorable experience.

I submitted my first ever submissions to CGC at WonderCon on 3/29. Two pulps in Vintage and one in High Value all on one form. About all I can tell yet is they charged my card. The High Value one supposedly is less time than the Vintage ones. Not sure if I can track them through the process. Also not sure if they will be returned to me as a group of 3 as submitted or multiple deliveries.

My only concern so far is that there was no “Notes” area on the form. One is a Yakima ped with a copy of the COA in the back of the backing board. The other is a file copy printout from the major dealer I purchased it from. I would have like to note it and “flag” them when the books arrived. Just crossing my fingers.

Being a long time GA collector, I have learned the concept of patience. So I guess I will just have to be optimistically excited. As far as grades go, I have no idea what I will get since pulps are so much different than comics.

[Hibou]

I'll definitely be interested to see how these turn out for you. 

[AnkurJ]

Great books! Congrats on the awesome results!

[CGC Mike]

On 4/11/2024 at 8:02 PM, Robot Man said:

My only concern so far is that there was no “Notes” area on the form. One is a Yakima ped with a copy of the COA in the back of the backing board. The other is a file copy printout from the major dealer I purchased it from. I would have like to note it and “flag” them when the books arrived. Just crossing my fingers.

For future reference, you can hand write notes on the packing slip.

[Robot Man]

On 4/11/2024 at 5:56 PM, CGC Mike said:

For future reference, you can hand write notes on the packing slip.

Thanks Mike!

[tth2]

On 4/12/2024 at 6:29 AM, Hibou said:

The total turn around time from the point of me sending these out on Monday morning, March 18th to me receiving them back on Saturday, April 6th was only 19 total days!

 Don't tell the comic book submittors, as they're liable to go ballistic if they hear this!

Seriously though, that's great and congratulations.  CGC are clearly prioritizing this new line of business and putting resources behind it to make it successful.  As they say, you only get one chance to make a good first impression.

[MattTheDuck]

I wonder if they hired a new crew just for pulps.

[jimjum12]

On 4/12/2024 at 12:37 AM, tth2 said:

 Don't tell the comic book submittors, as they're liable to go ballistic if they hear this!

Seriously though, that's great and congratulations.  CGC are clearly prioritizing this new line of business and putting resources behind it to make it successful.  As they say, you only get one chance to make a good first impression.

This is because they're so scarce and rare. ... not many to grade. There's probably only a few hundred left in the entire world. That's what makes them so much like graded video games.  GOD BLESS ...

-jimbo(a friend of jesus)

[The Lions Den]

On 4/12/2024 at 1:01 AM, MattTheDuck said:

I wonder if they hired a new crew just for pulps.

From what I understand, they already have some graders with extensive knowledge in that area...   

[Robot Man]

On 4/12/2024 at 5:23 AM, jimjum12 said:

This is because they're so scarce and rare. ... not many to grade. There's probably only a few hundred left in the entire world. That's what makes them so much like graded video games.  GOD BLESS ...

-jimbo(a friend of jesus)

There are way more than a few hundred left in the world. But yes, much more rare. Sometimes the copy in front of you is likely the only chance you will have to ever own it. Others, seem to turn up on a fairly regular basis. Just gotta trust your gut and experience. 

[jimjum12]

On 4/12/2024 at 11:37 AM, Robot Man said:

There are way more than a few hundred left in the world. But yes, much more rare. Sometimes the copy in front of you is likely the only chance you will have to ever own it. Others, seem to turn up on a fairly regular basis. Just gotta trust your gut and experience. 

It was meant in the spirit of sarcasm. One thing different with pulps and comics is that an abundance of copies may mean unsold ( ... and unpopular) with comics, whereas with pulps, it's the more popular stuff, usually, that remains. GOD BLESS ...

-jimbo(a friend of jesus)

Edited April 12 by jimjum12

[Sarg]

I do like that CGC is giving them consecutive numbers, like comic books. It's good to know at a glance that the October 1, 1936, issue of The Shadow is #111, rather than "Volume 19, Number 3," which is a now-meaningless jumble of numbers. 

[The Lions Den]

On 4/11/2024 at 6:29 PM, Hibou said:

My only true disappointment though is that there was no notation on the issue #113 (Nov.1, 1936) of Detective Comics #27. 

That would have been the ultimate icing on the cake!

I did mention this to the powers that be...pretty noteworthy stuff...  

[Robot Man]

Just read that my single high value pulp has been shipped. Grade is about what I expected. Can’t wait to see it…

The lower value ones are still in grading. Will post when they arrive.

Is it possible to see the CGC scan? 

[Dr. Love]

yeh Bob on the Submissions tracking page, click on the Submission link and then click on the Line Item link and it brings you to the Verify Cert page with the grader's notes and the scans

[Hibou]

On 4/22/2024 at 8:23 PM, The Lions Den said:

I did mention this to the powers that be...pretty noteworthy stuff...  

Was there any response on that?

[ThothAmon]

On 4/23/2024 at 11:37 AM, Robot Man said:

Can’t wait to see it…

Me too. Congrats. Bet a nickel it’s a Batwoman. Or it could be a…

[The Lions Den]

On 4/23/2024 at 6:06 PM, Hibou said:

Was there any response on that?

There was, but sometimes these things fall through the cracks. 

[Robot Man]

On 4/23/2024 at 9:10 AM, Dr. Love said:

yeh Bob on the Submissions tracking page, click on the Submission link and then click on the Line Item link and it brings you to the Verify Cert page with the grader's notes and the scans

Thanks Andy. I got through and was able to see the graders notes but there is no scan. Maybe they haven’t posted it yet? Or maybe I have to pay extra for it? I did check the census page and my copy is not listed yet. I’m a GA collector. One thing I have learned is patience…