Contamino Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 (edited) Do you believe the back has water damage? Plus can you spare me a grade please i appreciate your time Edited July 14 by Contamino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vheflin Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 Clearly, it's stained by some liquid, probably water. Tough to grade with those images, it will be somewhere mid-grade. Contamino 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvelmaniac Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 (edited) Not that this has anything to do with grading but the book shown is an exact copy of the book shown on MCS and eBay??? Also, next time please remove the book from the bag before taking pics, if the book has water damage you should also takes pics of the inside cover and pages to see if the water damage soaked through to the interior. but I digress... Slightly blunted corners, piece missing at top of outer edge, cover/staples are not centered but no signs of a spine roll, outer edge is not trimmed properly, minor to moderate foxing/staining/discoloration on front cover, moderate foxing/staining/discoloration of rear cover. IMO, due to the foxing/staining and the missing piece...VG+ 4.5 Just an FYI, Foxing cannot be removed since it is biological in nature. 5.0 VERY GOOD/FINE (VG/FN): Back to Top An above-average but well used comic book. An accumulation of bindery/printing defects is allowed. Minor to moderate cover wear apparent, with minor to moderate creases and/or dimples. Inks have moderate to low reflectivity. Blunted corners are increasingly common, as is minor to moderate staining, discoloration, and/or foxing. Stamped or inked arrival dates may be present. A minor to moderate spine roll is allowed. A spine split of up to 1/2" may be present. Staples may show minor discoloration. Minor staple tears and minor stress lines may also be present, as well as minor rust migration. Paper is tan to brown with no signs of brittleness. Centerfold may be loose. Minor interior tears may also be present. 4.5 VERY GOOD+ (VG): Back to Top Fits the criteria for Very Good but with an additional virtue or small accumulation of virtues that improves the book's appearance by a perceptible amount. 4.0 VERY GOOD (VG): Back to Top The average used comic book. Cover shows moderate to significant wear, and may be loose but not completely detached. Cover reflectivity is low. Can have moderate creases or dimples. Corners may be blunted. Store stamps, name stamps, arrival dates, initials, etc. have no effect on this grade. Some discoloration, fading, foxing, and even minor soiling is allowed. As much as a 1/4" triangle can be missing out of the corner or edge; a missing 1/8" square is also acceptable. Only minor unobtrusive tape and other amateur repair allowed on otherwise high grade copies. Moderate spine roll may be present and/or a 1" spine split. Staples may be discolored. Minor to moderate staple tears and stress lines may be present, as well as some rust migration. Paper is brown but not brittle. Minor to moderate interior tears may be present. Centerfold may be loose or detached at one staple. Edited July 6 by marvelmaniac Contamino 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contamino Posted July 6 Author Share Posted July 6 Thank you I can send more photos for observations.. It’s a book that I’m really interested in buying to clean it for my personal collection. As you know, this copy is hard to find sometimes. I questioned the seller, he said there isn’t any water damage. I like to improve comics but water damage I tend to stay away from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorick Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 On 7/6/2024 at 10:23 AM, Contamino said: That lower spine corner bleed-through certainly looks like some water damage... Contamino 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1950's war comics Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 it's some kind of stain .CGC hammers stains - 3.5 otherwise it presents pretty good... FoggyNelson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
namisgr Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 It seems to have liquid damage to both bottom corners, based on the closeups of the back left corner and the front left corner, and they seem to go through the entire book. If so, I wouldn't expect the book to grade any better than 4.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvelmaniac Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 Also looks like water damage to me, according to others I was being generous at VG+ 4.5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy49 Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 looks like water damage 3.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyDeath Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 3.5 or so. Will still present nicely in a slab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artifiction Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 (edited) The pictures suck. They're cropped way too much. The camera needs to be moved closer to the book for closeups. Cropping doesn't cut it. Better lighting would help, too. Edited July 8 by Artifiction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...