Tomorrow's Treasures re-visited and opinions needed....

[bye-migration]

Alright after reading all the yays and nays on Richard Munchin it seems split to more leaning I should avoid him. Im after this book .....

Its listed as a VF+ for a little 400 bucks. Scan isnt the best and my initial thoughts are that the book looks more like a F/VF. Whatcha guys think ? Anybody here seen this actual book in person at a show or anything ?

[rjpb]

With that top rt. corner, I'd say 7.0 would be a generous grade, as there looks to be a LLC bump as well, and some visible spine creases. I don't know what if any premium that book would fetch in better than 6.0, but if the guide is even close that looks like a $150-$200 book at best.

[jimjum12]

Alright after reading all the yays and nays on Richard Munchin it seems split to more leaning I should avoid him. Im after this book .....

Its listed as a VF+ for a little 400 bucks. Scan isnt the best and my initial thoughts are that the book looks more like a F/VF. Whatcha guys think ? Anybody here seen this actual book in person at a show or anything ?

 

Richie will also trade if you've got some sharp material.GOD BLESS...

 

-jimbo(a friend of jesus)

[mrwoogieman]

looks like a sub crease in the title at least...really need to see this one in hand.

[CKB]

looks like a sub crease in the title at least...really need to see this one in hand.

 

Look at that! Good eye!

[Point Five]

Yep, agree with the guys above, Ghastly...if he thinks that's a VF+, good luck trying to negotiate him down...

[Harvey Dude]

looks like a sub crease in the title at least...really need to see this one in hand.

 

I thought there appears to be a partial crease down the middle as well. That book does not rate VF+

[*paull*]

This reminds me of a story:

 

 

The little boy was walking down a path and he came across a rattlesnake. The rattlesnake was getting old. He asked, "Please little boy, can you take me to the top of the mountain? I hope to see the sunset one last time before I die." The little boy answered "No Mr. Rattlesnake. If I pick you up, you'll bite me and I'll die." The rattlesnake said, "No, I promise. I won't bite you. Just please take me up to the mountain." The little boy thought about it and finally picked up that rattlesnake and took it close to his chest and carried it up to the top of the mountain.

They sat there and watched the sunset together. It was so beautiful. Then after sunset the rattlesnake turned to the little boy and asked, "Can I go home now? I am tired, and I am old." The little boy picked up the rattlesnake and again took it to his chest and held it tightly and safely. He came all the way down the mountain holding the snake carefully and took it to his home to give him some food and a place to sleep. The next day the rattlesnake turned to the boy and asked, "Please little boy, will you take me back to my home now? It is time for me to leave this world, and I would like to be at my home now." The little boy felt he had been safe all this time and the snake had kept his word, so he would take it home as asked.

 

He carefully picked up the snake, took it close to his chest, and carried him back to the woods, to his home to die. Just before he laid the rattlesnake down, the rattlesnake turned and bit him in the chest. The little boy cried out and threw the snake upon the ground. "Mr. Snake, why did you do that? Now I will surely die!" The rattlesnake looked up at him and grinned, "You knew what I was when you picked me up."

[Aman619]

so, wait. who's the rattlesnake??

[langur88]

This reminds me of a story:

 

 

The little boy was walking down a path and he came across a rattlesnake. The rattlesnake was getting old. He asked, "Please little boy, can you take me to the top of the mountain? I hope to see the sunset one last time before I die." The little boy answered "No Mr. Rattlesnake. If I pick you up, you'll bite me and I'll die." The rattlesnake said, "No, I promise. I won't bite you. Just please take me up to the mountain." The little boy thought about it and finally picked up that rattlesnake and took it close to his chest and carried it up to the top of the mountain.

They sat there and watched the sunset together. It was so beautiful. Then after sunset the rattlesnake turned to the little boy and asked, "Can I go home now? I am tired, and I am old." The little boy picked up the rattlesnake and again took it to his chest and held it tightly and safely. He came all the way down the mountain holding the snake carefully and took it to his home to give him some food and a place to sleep. The next day the rattlesnake turned to the boy and asked, "Please little boy, will you take me back to my home now? It is time for me to leave this world, and I would like to be at my home now." The little boy felt he had been safe all this time and the snake had kept his word, so he would take it home as asked.

 

He carefully picked up the snake, took it close to his chest, and carried him back to the woods, to his home to die. Just before he laid the rattlesnake down, the rattlesnake turned and bit him in the chest. The little boy cried out and threw the snake upon the ground. "Mr. Snake, why did you do that? Now I will surely die!" The rattlesnake looked up at him and grinned, "You knew what I was when you picked me up."

 

There should be a master list of these types of dealers who make all comic book sellers look bad. The casinos have this type of book with photos of the miscreants to protect all casinos from scamsters and thieves. Who is in your Rogue's Gallery of Dealers? Who's the very worst?

 

Why isn't there a Comic Book dealers seal of approval? Like a better business bureau this would suspend a dealers seal if they received x amount of unresolved complaints. This is how I weed out "bad" dealers at our shows. The collectors attending our shows are our customers and should be protected from these types of dealers. You know who they are. We all have horror stories of "bad" comic book dealers.

[Aman619]

good idea. But, reading these boards over the years leads to the inescapable conclusion that beauty is in the eye of the collector. That is, For every scuummbg dealere whose dirty laundry gets aired here, there is always at least one poster who says he's a good guy etc. Generally I believe where theres smoke theres fire too, but, its all shades of gray except for the handful of totally irredeemable scoundrels. And we pretty much HAVE that list here already.

 

But maybe an informal poll of our most trusted dealers , from 1 to 10 might discover some trends or ratings we could all learn from... Id be curious to see which dealers scored highest in the trust department, hobby-wide..

[Thegoldenage]

Why isn't there a Comic Book dealers seal of approval? Like a better business bureau this would suspend a dealers seal if they received x amount of unresolved complaints. This is how I weed out "bad" dealers at our shows. The collectors attending our shows are our customers and should be protected from these types of dealers. You know who they are. We all have horror stories of "bad" comic book dealers.

 

More show organizers should do this, Dave. If enough shows banned bad dealers the dealers would either have to change their ways or go into another business.

[tth2]

Why isn't there a Comic Book dealers seal of approval? Like a better business bureau this would suspend a dealers seal if they received x amount of unresolved complaints. This is how I weed out "bad" dealers at our shows. The collectors attending our shows are our customers and should be protected from these types of dealers. You know who they are. We all have horror stories of "bad" comic book dealers.

 

More show organizers should do this, Dave. If enough shows banned bad dealers the dealers would either have to change their ways or go into another business.

If shows banned bad dealers, there would be no shows!

[swordsandrockets]

I remember in the early 80s if you bought stuff from him and he didn't recognize you as a regular yet he would pull the backer boards out of the comics. He also was big on doing 50c/$1/$2 stuff at that time. He had an interesting system to price them. The $2 books would be in a bag with no board and the flap cut off, $1 books would be unbagged and the 50c books he would flip upside down and put a stripe on them with a big magic marker. The stuff that he would get to put in those boxes was always cool, I remember filling out several SA DC second tier runs and getting lots of Marvel BA for pretty cheap.

 

He is a character and even back then he was big on doing work to his stuff. Generally he would do it to lower grade books and it would be things like Wonder bread cleaning or taping a fair/good back together so it was not falling apart. I know that I picked up a really sharp JLA 1 from him for about 20% below guide that was one of the nicest copies I had seen then or since and he did not do any work to it.

 

I haven't seen him for 20 years but I do remember he was a kook!

[langur88]

Why isn't there a Comic Book dealers seal of approval? Like a better business bureau this would suspend a dealers seal if they received x amount of unresolved complaints. This is how I weed out "bad" dealers at our shows. The collectors attending our shows are our customers and should be protected from these types of dealers. You know who they are. We all have horror stories of "bad" comic book dealers.

 

More show organizers should do this, Dave. If enough shows banned bad dealers the dealers would either have to change their ways or go into another business.

If shows banned bad dealers, there would be no shows!

 

[langur88]

Generally I believe where theres smoke theres fire too, but, its all shades of gray except for the handful of totally irredeemable scoundrels. And we pretty much HAVE that list here already.

 

 

Could you pass a copy this way?