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Marvel Age 12/1st BLACK SPIDEY 2 mos. b4 ASM 252/MTU 141

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50 Cent #II (1st)

50 Cent #II (1st)

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Yes, it's true (kind of), it shows Spidey in his black costume, but the white areas are red (like a black widow) which I think would have been better, but realized probably that a black widow is female (the male ones are brown). Probably would have been better to have the black costume Spider-Woman in the black with red colors.

Here's scans of the two pages that show it...

Does this discovery make my Marvel Age 12 worth the same as a ASM 300? (wanna trade?)

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comix4fun

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Does anyone know anything about the validity of this claim??

 

That is like calling an ad sheet in a previous month's comic the actual first appearance. It doesn't fly.

 

Is the first appearance of Iron Fist the ad sheet from Marvel Premiere #14 or is it the actual story of MP #15?

 

Marvel Age was an interview/preview/advertisement-type book. It was not a comic book in the actual sense. And having concept art that makes Spider-Man look like Spider-girl, with the prototype Red indicia instead of the final White weakens the claim.

 

To further invalidate the claim, if you accept the Marvel Age proto-pics as the first appearance, then pretty much every first appearance did not appear in comics over the last 20 plus years they all appeared in Previews from Diamond comics three months before the books came out.

 

Chris

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50 Cent #II (1st)

50 Cent #II (1st)

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Does anyone know anything about the validity of this claim??

 

That is like calling an ad sheet in a previous month's comic the actual first appearance. It doesn't fly.

 

Is the first appearance of Iron Fist the ad sheet from Marvel Premiere #14 or is it the actual story of MP #15?

 

Marvel Age was an interview/preview/advertisement-type book. It was not a comic book in the actual sense. And having concept art that makes Spider-Man look like Spider-girl, with the prototype Red indicia instead of the final White weakens the claim.

 

To further invalidate the claim, if you accept the Marvel Age proto-pics as the first appearance, then pretty much every first appearance did not appear in comics over the last 20 plus years they all appeared in Previews from Diamond comics three months before the books came out.

 

Chris

 

But it works for the first appearence of TMNT in Gobbledygook #1 & 2... (even more so in that this was just an ad.)

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I watched the Spider-Man Origins DVD and they talk all about the red and black Spidey suit...reason they didn't go with it...

When printing it the colors mixed together so they opted for white instead of red. And as time went on, they black suit became a black and blue suit to show off more of the way Spidey's body moves. With solid black, it just didn't work!

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Not sure this has been addressed anywhere else, but I wanted to clarify that although those turnaround shots of Spidey's new costume by Rick Leonardi appeared in Marvel Age, Leonardi was not the person who designed Spidey's black costume. The actual creator was none other than the person who introduced the costume in Secret Wars - Mke Zeck! The original designs were more like loose sketches. According to Zeck, Spidey's head was more "alien shaped" in those early sketches as well. Marvel asked Leonardi to create the turnaround drawings for bullpen purposes.

 

Those original Black Spidey sketches by Zeck have never surfaced to the best of my knowledge. It'll be interesting to see if someone brings them out for sale when the new movie hits.

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