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Premium % for better page quality???

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dizzyfoxx

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How important are the pages???

 

Here's a test scenario...

 

How do you view and value a given book when considering the page quality? 893scratchchin-thumb.gif

For example: Here are the givens...

 

Example:

1.) More Fun Comics #65

2.) CGC Universal VF 8.0

3.) Priced (for arguments sake) at $4,000 with off-white pages

 

Now, place your value assessment (if significantly different) on same book with:

 

WHITE Pages............................?

Off White-White Pages................?

Cream to off white pages.............?

Light Tan to off white pages.........?

Cream pages.............................?

Tan Pages.................................?

Slightly Brittle Pages..................?

Brittle Pages..............................?

 

Edited to note: I don't think a VF book can have brittle pages blush.gif but this is just for the sake of learning your % differences for page quality in general. wink.gif

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Forbush-Man

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Just an idea of what I consider a fair deal given the same book, in the same grade(VF), but with varying page quality. Two things I attempt to stay away from: Rusty Staples and Brittle Pages.

 

WHITE Pages............................$4,400.00

Off White-White Pages................$4,000.00

Cream to off white pages.............$ 3,800.00 to $4,000.00

Light Tan to off white pages.........$ 3,500.00 to $4,000.00

Cream pages.............................$ 3,500.00 to $3,800.00

Tan Pages.................................$ 3,500.00 (?)

Slightly Brittle Pages..................Stay away

Brittle Pages..............................Won't touch it!

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Forbush-Man

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Don't know that I would hazard a guess for all of those scenarios Dizz, but I always give a bump for white pages, when buying OR selling.

 

I gave my example a bump for White pages only, from there it varies (meaning discount) from guide value. thumbsup2.gif

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Dark Knight

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Just an idea of what I consider a fair deal given the same book, in the same grade(VF), but with verying page quality. Two things I attempt to stay away from: Rusty Staples and Brittle Pages.

 

WHITE Pages............................$4,400.00

Off White-White Pages................$4,000.00

Cream to off white pages.............$ 4,000.00

Light Tan to off white pages.........$ 3,500.00 to $4,000.00

Cream pages.............................$ 3,500.00 to $3,800.00

Tan Pages.................................$ 3,500.00 (?)

Slightly Brittle Pages..................Stay away

Brittle Pages..............................Won't touch it!

 

I'd change it up a little bit:

 

WHITE Pages............................$4,400.00

Off White-White Pages................$4,000.00

Cream to off white pages.............$ 3,750.00

Light Tan to off white pages.........$ 3,500.00

Cream pages.............................$ 3,600.00

Tan Pages.................................$ 3,000.00 (?)

Slightly Brittle Pages..................Stay away

Brittle Pages..............................Won't touch it!

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FFB

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Just an idea of what I consider a fair deal given the same book, in the same grade(VF), but with verying page quality. Two things I attempt to stay away from: Rusty Staples and Brittle Pages.

 

WHITE Pages............................$4,400.00

Off White-White Pages................$4,000.00

Cream to off white pages.............$ 4,000.00

Light Tan to off white pages.........$ 3,500.00 to $4,000.00

Cream pages.............................$ 3,500.00 to $3,800.00

Tan Pages.................................$ 3,500.00 (?)

Slightly Brittle Pages..................Stay away

Brittle Pages..............................Won't touch it!

 

I'd change it up a little bit:

 

WHITE Pages............................$4,400.00

Off White-White Pages................$4,000.00

Cream to off white pages.............$ 3,750.00

Light Tan to off white pages.........$ 3,500.00

Cream pages.............................$ 3,600.00

Tan Pages.................................$ 3,000.00 (?)

Slightly Brittle Pages..................Stay away

Brittle Pages..............................Won't touch it!

 

What about plain ol' Off White pages?

 

What about Light Tan to Cream pages?

 

What about Pink pages on a Fox book? 27_laughing.gifpoke2.gif

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Forbush-Man

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I'd change it up a little bit:

 

WHITE Pages............................$4,400.00

Off White-White Pages................$4,000.00

Cream to off white pages.............$ 3,750.00

Light Tan to off white pages.........$ 3,500.00

Cream pages.............................$ 3,600.00

Tan Pages.................................$ 3,000.00 (?)

Slightly Brittle Pages..................Stay away

Brittle Pages..............................Won't touch it!

 

Works for me. thumbsup2.gif

 

Main thing is I would pay 10% more (or there around) for the same book with White pages. The rest I would negotiate and below Tan pages......no thanks.

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ciorac

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I'd change it up a little bit:

 

WHITE Pages............................$4,400.00

Off White-White Pages................$4,000.00

Cream to off white pages.............$ 3,750.00

Light Tan to off white pages.........$ 3,500.00

Cream pages.............................$ 3,600.00

Tan Pages.................................$ 3,000.00 (?)

Slightly Brittle Pages..................Stay away

Brittle Pages..............................Won't touch it!

 

Works for me. thumbsup2.gif

 

Main thing is I would pay 10% more (or there around) for the same book with White pages. The rest I would negotiate and below Tan pages......no thanks.

 

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batman_fan

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I actually try to avoid anything cream to off-white and lower. Having owned a book that was labeled light tan to off white which should have been labeled slightly brittle, I have become a little nervous with CGCs page notations.

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FFB

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Every book I've bought that cgc called cream to off white were fried and borderline brittle. That's just not right.

 

This Batman #52 had cream to off-white pages, and aside from the halo around the outside, the pages were gorgeous. Even the creamy parts were still flexible and strong.

 

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ft88

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I've never been able to figure out the page quality stuff either. Here are two cream to off white pages.

 

This first one I agree with, the second one not so much. In both cases the pages are very supple with no chipping. God Bless Carl Barks, the guy could make a comic look like a movie.

 

flash7lab.jpg

flash7pap.jpg

 

wdcs40lab.jpg

wdcs40paper.jpg

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Dark Knight

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I've never been able to figure out the page quality stuff either. Here are two cream to off white pages.

 

This first one I agree with, the second one not so much. In both cases the pages are very supple with no chipping. God Bless Carl Barks, the guy could make a comic look like a movie.

 

flash7lab.jpg

flash7pap.jpg

 

wdcs40lab.jpg

wdcs40paper.jpg

 

Hmm very interesting pictures. I agree with the first one, but the second one.. I don't see anything cream about the pages. Seems more off-white to me all around if anything or even offwhite-white. Ahh I don't know..

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In my limited experience buying GA slabs I've found CGC's cream through OW/W labeling to be rather inconsistent.

 

As to value increase/decrease it would depend on scarcity and cover importance.

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Timely

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In my limited experience buying GA slabs I've found CGC's cream through OW/W labeling to be rather inconsistent.

 

As to value increase/decrease it would depend on scarcity and cover importance.

 

 

Keep in mind with grading there are 25 choices to assign a book from .5 to 10. With page quality there are only 4 choices from the range of cream to off-white through white. Each choice has a much broader range of acceptability.

 

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The Black Hand ®

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Every book I've bought that cgc called cream to off white were fried and borderline brittle. That's just not right.

 

This Batman #52 had cream to off-white pages, and aside from the halo around the outside, the pages were gorgeous. Even the creamy parts were still flexible and strong.

 

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That looks nice. The books I've purchased from the Crippin collection have been pretty fried for 6.5's, particularly the tanning of the covers and pages. Like they were done in a hurry for a prefered client.

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adams

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What about Poughkeepsie File Copy books that have a slight tanning on the inside front and back covers, yet are probably off white to cream page quality, yet have a fabulous ink reflectivity on the cover ?.I'd pay a 10-15% premium for those examples.

 

Anything below slight tanning I'd stay away from.

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