comicgrinder Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Cant throw someone under the bus without giving them a chance to respond. Its only fair and just. I would want the benefit of the doubt first from any buyer from me as well. Just wanted to make sure this was the right place should it come to that. "response" `gee I am real sorry I didn't put any packaging to protect the book you bought' example pics `what do you mean it was packaged poorly? There wasn't any bubble wrap or anything? I dont know how this could have happened' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastballspecial Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 (edited) Fine at this point I dont care just irritated at the lack of packing by a seller on here. So here is the deal. I bought the book pictured below in VF/NM to NM- condition. So the Seller charged me $5 for shipping + $10 for book. I payed him + $.50 to cover his paypal fees as I do most sellers on here this was my choice he didnt ask for it. I did ask him to pack it well and add some cardboard so it wont get bent. The book arrived in a re-used manilla enveloped, boarded and bagged with two slices of thin cardboard inside which got corner dinged and didnt save the book as you can tell by the scan. Now If I payed $3.00 for shipping or somewhere around that it got damaged like this fine I can live with because he did at least have Do Not Bend on it, but I payed $5 + I covered his paypal fees. I know this book is not a huge amount, but man I have never recieved a book like this from any seller on here in 4 years or so of buying. Edited February 7, 2009 by Fastballspecial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nostalgic Attic Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 How long do they stay on the probation list for? Just wondered thx herc Until the action in question is rectified or forgiven. This word bothers me for some reason . . . I guess I could rectify that A more proper use of the word in a sentence might be: Harry Reid could not rectify Nancy Pelosi's stimulus package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makmorn Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 I have to agree, plain envelopes are lame and pretty much a death sentence for a comic. I have never recieved a book in a plain envelope without some type of damage. Even the cardboard priority mail ones suck, padded envelopes are much better, of course a box with bubble wrap is best. I would think everyone should be aware that mail is sorted by machines and often dropped from a pretty good height, usually on a corner, if the cardboard is thin, or the book not secured to the cardboard, you get a dinged corner without fail. I always have them stamp fragile on the boxes, and the postal worker just laughs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnT Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 I have to agree, plain envelopes are lame and pretty much a death sentence for a comic. I have never recieved a book in a plain envelope without some type of damage. Even the cardboard priority mail ones suck, padded envelopes are much better, of course a box with bubble wrap is best. I would think everyone should be aware that mail is sorted by machines and often dropped from a pretty good height, usually on a corner, if the cardboard is thin, or the book not secured to the cardboard, you get a dinged corner without fail. I always have them stamp fragile on the boxes, and the postal worker just laughs. I'm more a buyer than a seller, but I get lots of books in plain envelopes or priority envelopes and I've never had a problem if the book is secured between stiff cardboard. I did have one where there was a corner crunch, but that was because the seller did not secure the book to the cardboard and it slipped out and got hit. I also had one envelope that had literally been run through with something, as if Conan had taken a sword to it. A box wouldn't have mattered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Point Five Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Fine at this point I dont care just irritated at the lack of packing by a seller on here. So here is the deal. I bought the book pictured below in VF/NM to NM- condition. So the Seller charged me $5 for shipping + $10 for book. I payed him + $.50 to cover his paypal fees as I do most sellers on here this was my choice he didnt ask for it. I did ask him to pack it well and add some cardboard so it wont get bent. The book arrived in a re-used manilla enveloped, boarded and bagged with two slices of thin cardboard inside which got corner dinged and didnt save the book as you can tell by the scan. Now If I payed $3.00 for shipping or somewhere around that it got damaged like this fine I can live with because he did at least have Do Not Bend on it, but I payed $5 + I covered his paypal fees. I know this book is not a huge amount, but man I have never recieved a book like this from any seller on here in 4 years or so of buying. I would be annoyed too! I hope the seller will take care of this for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shark Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 So we at least know where the seller is from.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shark Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Oh, and if I charge $5.00 for shipping I'm sending it via Flat Rate Priority Mail envelope sandwiched between 2 pieces of cardboard. I always give my eBay buyers the option of Priority or 1st Class - $5.00 for Priority, $3.00 for 1st Class. I can't see charging anybody $5.00 for 1st Class or Media Mail shipping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizards2 Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 I think I've (seriously) ordered from both these guys with the lack of packaging displayed. The empty box was classic, with the sandwiched book rattling around inside - I did say something to the seller, but I'm pretty sure he was a one or two listing wonder. If people would buy a postal scale, and use bubble wrap and a smaller USPS shirtbox, you can ship 1-2 books in a well packaged priority box for under $5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sd2416 Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 I think I've (seriously) ordered from both these guys with the lack of packaging displayed. The empty box was classic, with the sandwiched book rattling around inside - I did say something to the seller, but I'm pretty sure he was a one or two listing wonder. If people would buy a postal scale, and use bubble wrap and a smaller USPS shirtbox, you can ship 1-2 books in a well packaged priority box for under $5. Best purchase I bought was a 75lbs and under USPS postal scale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizards2 Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 I think I've (seriously) ordered from both these guys with the lack of packaging displayed. The empty box was classic, with the sandwiched book rattling around inside - I did say something to the seller, but I'm pretty sure he was a one or two listing wonder. If people would buy a postal scale, and use bubble wrap and a smaller USPS shirtbox, you can ship 1-2 books in a well packaged priority box for under $5. Best purchase I bought was a 75lbs and under USPS postal scale. Me too - and since I buy postage on line, the only time I have to wait in line and interact with the USPS counterfolk (who are actually quite nice in my town) is when I make a sale to those dang foreigners....... Otherwise, I do it all at home and shove it through the shipping slot at the P.O. What a great time saver it has been :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makmorn Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 I'm more a buyer than a seller, but I get lots of books in plain envelopes or priority envelopes and I've never had a problem if the book is secured between stiff cardboard. I won't say I have never received a book undamaged in an envelope, if they are secured well enough they sometimes survive, the odds of damage do go up in a plain envelope rather than a padded one. I even received a cgc slabbed book in an envelope once, that wasn't pretty. Sometimes it is the mail carrier, my previous one was horrible, and would bend books in envelopes to fit them in the mail box, even bent 50 backing boards one time that were shipped in an envelope, and shoved them into the box, and I know that took some effort, because they were tough to get back out. At least they were good for storing the bent books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenwho Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 A card with a $25.00 Gift Certificate to my mail carrier at X-Mas guaranty's my large envelopes and boxes get delivered to my door and not bent into my mailbox. A small price to pay considering what could get damaged. (thumbs u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicgrinder Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 A card with a $25.00 Gift Certificate to my mail carrier at X-Mas guaranty's my large envelopes and boxes get delivered to my door and not bent into my mailbox. A small price to pay considering what could get damaged. (thumbs u We do about the same thing, a $20 bill and a gift certificate to the movies for 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddly Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 A card with a $25.00 Gift Certificate to my mail carrier at X-Mas guaranty's my large envelopes and boxes get delivered to my door and not bent into my mailbox. A small price to pay considering what could get damaged. (thumbs u We do about the same thing, a $20 bill and a gift certificate to the movies for 2. Certainly nice gestures, but it is sad that you have to bribe someone to do their job properly. How would your job performance be if you depended on a bribe and didn't get one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nostalgic Attic Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 A card with a $25.00 Gift Certificate to my mail carrier at X-Mas guaranty's my large envelopes and boxes get delivered to my door and not bent into my mailbox. A small price to pay considering what could get damaged. (thumbs u We do about the same thing, a $20 bill and a gift certificate to the movies for 2. Certainly nice gestures, but it is sad that you have to bribe someone to do their job properly. How would your job performance be if you depended on a bribe and didn't get one? My sentiments exactly. So the USPS basic service is "beat but complete". A little extra under the table and they'll resolve the "beat" part for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicgrinder Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 so what you guys are saying is no one should receive X-mas bonuses for a job well done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastballspecial Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 I take of my local postman as well. Just a nice gesture along with the Sanitation guys as well. Trust me it goes a long way sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastballspecial Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 I guess I will start asking sellers to send in boxes again. Never had a book in a box well packed every get damaged. Manilla Envelopes are death sentence for a comic book. As a seller I would never brag about shipping this route even with 4 pieces of sturdy cardboard. I know several do it, but as a seller myself I prefer a little higher shipping because I use bubble wrap with cardboard and then pack it safely in a box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nostalgic Attic Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 so what you guys are saying is no one should receive X-mas bonuses for a job well done Not at all. I give my Postal worker a tip because I appreciate his service. I do not expect anything extra in return for it though. So much of the damage that occurs to items in the mail happens before it hits my carrier's hands, and is a result of USPS systemic mail processing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
