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I bought the entire series - all 20 books - at cover price from the racks of 7-11 back when they came out (total cost - $6.25). Most of them are in 8.5 shape or better with a few that are more like 7.0s based on my grading at the last re-bagging/boarding. No plans to get them graded or sell them. I totally totally get how you feel about having them graded as the cost to grade even one of these suckers nowadays would end up costing you big multiples of the original price you had to pay for the entire run in the first place. Like you, although I cherry picked my minty fresh copies of the entire run off the shelves of the LCS back in the day when they first came out, I just can't see myself paying the egregious ripoff dollars that it would take to grade and slab them. Especially since the original cost of the book would only end up being an insignificant fraction of the overall total cost of the slabbed copy by the time it's all said and done. Kind of tempted though since I do have dups of the first 3 issues, especially after seeing that copy of issue 13 go for over $4K a couple of years ago, although I doubt I would ever get that lucky in terms of the grade and finding a sucker *ahem* lucky buyer to pay that kind of dough.

Even in the case of the MCU movies because didn't Marvel Super Heroes 13 also have a similar percentage size drop-off after the release of the Captain Marvel movie, even though the movie managed to do better than first expected?

Is this and the last auction from CL not just their Focused Auction which is kind of akin to HA Sunday/Monday auction or CC's Monthly Auction, as opposed to the CL Featured Auction which is more in line with HA's Signature or CC's Event Auctions which probably attracts more eyeballs with the deeper pockets who are willing to dig deeper down for their books?

Or is the message - don't buy into movie or TV related hyped books after they've had a big run-up, because don't virtually all of them (with very very few exceptions) have a sizable and noriceable tumble after they hit the screens. Especially if you drop off the one at the start of August that topped the $2K mark because that one there clearly appears to be an outlier to me.

I've noticed this counter-intuitive trend also. Not exactly why you would consider this pricing action on big dollar value books to be counter-intuituve since it has been in play for decades now? Especially since we all know that the uber HG copies are on the radar screen for the deep pocketed label chasers. On the other hand, the lower grade entry level copies are on the radar screen for the much larger pool of budget minded collectors who don't want to spend big money, but just want to acquire any copy for their collections. Which then leaves the mid-grade copies relatively out in the cold as they are nowhere in nice enough condition for the lavel chasers and yet also at the same time, too expensive for the budget minded collector who's just looking for any copy to put into their personal collection.

Yeah, I am a massive sig series fan and have 1000+ books but I wouldnt dream of a sig of a HG book other than modern. But I guess if its your book, you can do with it as you wish Personally, not being a fan of egregious oversized writing on comic book covers, I have always held the opinion that CGC should treat these signatures as a writing defect and downgrade them accordingly. Of course, since it's all about the money for them, they would never ever consider doing this since it would literally kill their Signature Series program.

I also have issue with that Well then, I believe Arnold here would then have some serious issues with the two of you and wants to meet both of you in the back alley to shall we say..........*ahem* discuss your concerns:

Ummm........the answer would appear pretty self evident and you have only yourself to blame for the removal of the classic cover designation. By removing the piece of plastic on Cap's gun, you ended up removing the one single attribute that made this a classic cover in the first place.

Based upon virtually all of the overwhelmingly negative reviews which I have been reading about the Eternals, it almost sounds like it's Inhumans TV series which was pretty much of a bomb for Marvel. So, unless you think the Inhumans related books were also undervalued, not sure what this is going to do for the price of Eternals related books going forward? Since I've still got the entire run as I never got around to slabbing them, I hope they don't crash right through the floor on the way down which seems to be the trend for most movie and TV hype books. As long as they don't go below my purcahse price, I guess I really can't complain too much though.

It was ever thus. Not necessarily so because if you take a look at NY World's Fair 1939 with the first published appearance of Sandman, it goes for a whole ton more money than Adventure Comics 40 which had long been thought to be Sandman's first appearance when Overstreet first started out with his price guide. I guess this is where the following rule applies: When it was eventually determined that NYWF 1939 was the actual first appearance for the Sandman even though this was obviously incorrect in Overstreet and the marketplace until the 90's or whenever, they then rationalized this price discrepancy by stating that Adventure 40 was the first "conceived and drawn" story which took precedence over his first published story in Adventure 40.

Definitely the case here because if you take a look at Jimmy Olsen 134 where the 1-panel so-called first appearance of Darkseid is considered to be the key book and goes for big multiples more than Jimmey Olsen 135 with Darkseid's 1-page cameo appearance.

Well, fro what I am reading here, let's just hope it doesn't DISAPPEAR before then.

Any truth to the rumours that they went and hired the same guys that did the big revamp on the CC auction website last year?

Well, if you believe some of the stories around here, just one bidder at a HA auction who then puts it back in inventory to use in future auctions.

Hey Allan; Greatly appreciate your report on the Vancouver Comic Con here and glad to hear that you did well with both your purchases and sales. Looks like I missed most of the early action since I was busy with the family and didn't get to the con until after 3 PM. Did noticed a few "new" dealers that I haven't seen and talked to one who had what seem like his personal collection of HG books there from the BA and up, including some of them that were slabbed. Nice to see and definitely more interesting than the usual current hot books like Spidey 361 and the other common movie related hype books which almost every other dealer there had in multiples and trying to sell at top dollar. Saw Ferd as I was going out the door and asked him for his box with the "good books" that he always has under his table in previous cons. Not there this time as it was just a covered box on top of his table this time and unfortunately no HG books in there as they were mostly lower to mid-grade romance books. He stated that it was pretty much impossible to get the nicer quality GA books as I assume they must all be targeted towards the major auction houses nowadays. Still, definitely nice to just walk around the convention floor after being shut out from them for some 18 months. Especially since it gives you a false sense of paper wealth to see some dealers asking seemingly silly money for relatively common so-called hot books which already have thousands, if not tens of thousands slabbed in high grade already.

You have to be 100% sure the book would upgrade to risk it. The cost to regrade one of those behemoth books is now in the 5-figures. Doesn't CGC have something like a pre-screen service for a minimum condition grade level which you can specify (in this particular case, you would specify a minimum grade of CGC 8.5) which would then substantially reduce your risk here?

Not if the consignor's too busy dancing up a storm because they only had to pay cover price less the standard discount for his copy of Spidey 300 back then.

Plus it's one of those rare cardboard covers from the early squarebound days which is the cherry on top of the icing.

Fox funny animals. Remember the old axiom........buy low and sell high, although we might all be in the big LCS in the sky by the time funny animals gets hot again. Then again, there just might be a glimmer of hope as some of those Bugs Bunny books seems to be selling for record amounts on HA Sunday auctions and didn't @tth2 's Four Color 386 sell for $90K in the Spring HA Signature Auction.

Was scrolling through the HA Sunday offerings and although I am sure it's all to do with the Hitler et al cover, it looks like there's now another early World's Finest that's going for big dollars besides just the WF 3 with the first appearance of the Scarecrow: https://comics.ha.com/itm/golden-age-1938-1955-/world-s-finest-comics-9-dc-1943-cgc-fn-65-off-white-to-white-pages/a/122143-17979.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515# Already sitting at $5,760 with still another day to go for a mid-grade copy in this grade range just touching on 4-figures only a few short years ago.

Well, let's see what he has left although if they are simply non-key mid-run ho hum Marvels, not much to see as they are pretty much everywhere. Better to see something like that Mister Mystery 6 that you was able to snagged just as I was about to asked to take a look at it during one of the Heritage Hall conventions the other year. Or even better yet, an uber HG copy of a Seven Seas book that Ferd had under his table when he was passing through town a few summers ago.

I remember getting into coins and stamps for awhile back then in my much younger days before I got into comic books. Much to my surprise and happily I must say, it's the comic books that have actually gone up in value to these stratospheric levels that nobody could have imagined or even dreamed of back then.

Well, I guess if Dave & Adam's are lucky enough to find somebody willing to pay the BIN price on these two Promise Collection books here, they'll be way ahead of this eBay seller who's got BIN price set only at what he had originally paid for the book when he won it for $9,600 from Heritage back in June: https://www.ebay.com/itm/184990035124?hash=item2b1243ecb4%3Ag%3AQeMAAOSwldthETsq&campid=5338116315&customid=CGCForum&toolid=10001&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&nma=true&si=I6yoeSuwIIqY9UHD0QKJqohYErE%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 Wonder if he's had any luck finding a buyer for this copy in the interim since it was posted for sale quite a few months ago, and if he did, at what price was he able to get for the book? I guess it doesn't really help his listing when he states that the book is only in Very Good condition even though it is residing in a CGC 5.5 Fine- slab.

Fixed that for you. Looks like they are simply trying to recoup some of their money on the Four Favorites 22 because that actully works out to a pretty sizable loss on their part once you take off the eBay and PayPal fees and the state taxes they might have had to pay in buying the book in the first place. That's even assuming they can find some fool lucky buyer to even pay full boat on the book.

He didn't use CCS. He tried to use a presser/cleaner that has done work in the field of conservation and (a lot of us think he was doing this to try to get it past CGC) Well, not sure where your friend has been for the past 15+ years ever since pressing and cleaning got outed on these very boards here. If it's just a "press and clean" job that was being done on the book, there's actually no worries about trying to "get it past CGC" since this type of work on a book is NOT considerd to be restoration by CGC and will result in the book book residing in an unrestored blue universal slab. If anything, with the shifting and devolving grading standards over time to actually encourage this type of work to be done on the books, the CGC graders might actually see it as a plus when it comes to the final grade if they are aware that it was done by their partner company since it's a clear sign that the submittor is paying his just dues to them in order to have his books graded "accordingly".