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Are you by any chance referring to this First Edtion print of the first Overstreet Comic Book Price Guide, as pictured here: https://comics.ha.com/itm/books/overstreet-comic-book-price-guide-1-first-print-robert-overstreet-1970-cgc-nm-92-white-pages/a/7192-92312.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515 If so, it looks like this copy here set the buyer back some $9K in order to acq uire this copy back in 2018.

Ummm..............................how long has ComicLink been around? Was it in the mid to latter part of the 90's or thereabouts?

Well, it most definitely can't be 0% seller's fees since both the website and the title of this thread clearly states that it is 1% seller's fee.

EXACTLY!!! I am 100% sure it's a whole ton less than you since I haven't really focused too much attention on this later GA time period, but I am still awaiting the results of a few books from this first batch of the Promise Collection with great anticipation and have virtually no thoughts or much care at all about placement within the CGC Census Popualtion Report.

Well, your response about the potential impact of the CGC 9.6 graded copy of the Promise Collection copy of 'Tec 140 on the still raw Church copy of 'Tec 140 is definitely interesting and food for thought, so let's munch into it for a bit here: My thinking is that if the CGC 9.6 Promise copy of 'Tec 140 ends up selling for say $250K which some of the boardies are saying here, then wouldn't that mean if the Church copy comes out as a CGC 9.8 graded copy, it might end up selling for something like $325K or possibly even more. Now, if there was no Promise copy of 'Tec 140 and the Church copy came out as a CGC 9.8, do you really believe it would simply have gone straight up to this same $325K or more price point without first having the Promise copy to lead it higher up to that price point by establishing a new standard baseline? If the Church copy of 'Tec 140 was a CGC 9.6 graded copy and there was no Promise copy out there, in theory the Church copy would have sold for what it always would have anyways. So, no real impact on value from my POV if the Promise copy did not exist. Alas, this one I am not sure about since I sadly don't deal in these nosebleed types of books from a valuation point of view. Now, if there was no CGC 9.6 Promise Collection copy and there were only the original 3 census topping CGC 9.4 graded copies as per the population report, how much do you think the Church copy of 'Tec 140 would go for if it came out graded as a CGC 9.4 and now with 4 census topping 9.4 copies out there? Now, how much would this same CGC 9.4 graded Church copy sell for if the CGC 9.6 Promise Collection copy does in fact end up selling for $250K and is this amount really $50K less for the Church copy than the first scenario where there was no Promise copy? Bottom-line: At least from my personal point of view is that I feel this now highest graded Promise Collection copy of 'Tec 140 will be setting a new standard baseline for all other HG (if not all the way down the entire condition spectrum) 'Tec 140 copies which will ift up their valuations, including the raw HG copies out there like your friend's raw Church copy going forward.

They are pretty much of this..........

The thing that I found interesting was that it seems like Heritage might just have lucked into this auction based upon the family hearing about the big $2.22M Batman 1 sale from earlier this year. Seems they then thought that this so-called "G to VG" hoard of books might be worth contacting Heritage to see if they would be interested in the collection since the older brother who had made the promise had passed away last year. If it was indeed just the media exposure that led the family to Heritage, this means they might just as easily have gone to CC if one of their big sales had hit the media outlets at the right opportune time. Especially since Vinnie and Metro/CC seems to have a pretty big media profile. Doubt it would have been either CL or dear we say even Pedigree since we never seem to see any media reports with respect to their big sales.

Yes, I definitely heard this and the first thing that came to my mind was raw copies of the Frazetta Famous Funnies run because they are not worth grading and only end up selling for the same price as raw copies would anyways.

Actually, this question here was alreadly answered a couple of weeks ago in this very threrad here: It's really too bad about the Suspense 4 not being in the collection as that's apparently the absolute toughest issue out of the entire run to find. At least, there's a copy of Suspense 8 (highest graded by a long shot at CGC 9.2) with the classic L.B. Cole spider cover in there and the first true HG copy to ever come to market.

Is he leaning your way in terms of his mind frame that this Promise Copy of 'Tec 140 is not good for his Church copy in terms of its potential placing within the CGC Census Population Report? Or is he leaning towards my way of thinking that he's waiting with great anticipation to see the result of this auction for the Promise Copy in expectation that it will set a new high water mark in terms of pricing and actually be good for his Church copy? Especially in the sense of a rising tide lifting all boats, including his Church copy of 'Tec 140, regardless of where it lands in the CGC census.

Correct. It's listed as NM+ in the original catalog with a price of $90

I'm splitting the baby; I could see it hitting somewhere around 300k. The Grundy books are undervalued, especially AS 33, which is only at 11,500; whereas AA 61 is at 65,000. I would be totally shocked if it hits more than $300K, let alone the $500K mark that's being mentioned here. Now if it had come in as a CGC 9.8 graded copy, then that might have been a different story in terms of its chances to crack $500K or even $300K. Not sure why, but I've always thought of 'Tec 140 as almost being more of a SA book than a true GA book since it's well more than 100 issues past the first appearance of Batman. Will definitely be nice to watch and see where it finishes up at in the end though. As for both of the Grundy books, still way too early to tell, but I definitely see no problem with AA 61 easily getting into 6-figures, especially considering its all-time classic cover along with the fact that no other HG copies have ever been offered in a public auction to date so far.

I would definitely tend to agree with this POV, especially if the comic book market is going to hopefully continue to move in an upwards direction over time going forward. Especially since most of these GA Promise Collection books in these types of grades are the types of books which comes to market only once every several years as opposed to the HG SA/BA/CA where you almost seenmingly see several copies coming to market in every single auction. It's definitely easier to have increasing valuations on books going forward if they have continuing market action and reinforcing actual sales in order to drive valauations upwards, as opposed to having a book come to market only once every several years. On the other hand, if there were ever to be a comic book market crash which is not totally out of the question given how frothy with an extra cherry on top this marketplace is right now, guess which one of these books I would much rather be holding onto going forwards.

Totally understandable as I guess it's really a matter of to each, their own when it comes to every individual's own personal collecting preferences. This part here I don't quite understand as much, especially since grading is still only a so-called "expert" opinion at best and hence subject to possible error, as opposed to being an exact science. After all, as many have already stated here, the exact same book that's been graded one day as a CGC 9.6 could conceivably come back graded as a CGC 9.8 on another day, or vice versa. It is at this point with these tiny almost indistinguishable differences in grade from my POV at least, is where the actual underlying book would come into play and the PL 17 would clearly win out over a MS 5 if you are talking about these respective types of grading condition levels in your example here.

Looks like nothing more than as assumption on their part as I also don't see any sale of an actual XM 94 in CGC 9.8 above that HA $63K result. My bet is that they are simply looking at all of the GSXM 1 sales in the $60K with more than a whopping 200 copies in CGC 9.8, and then assume that XM94 must be worth more than that since it has only a relative fractional 37 copies in the same equivalent CGC 9.8 grade. Interesting to note that while checking the CC archives for CGC 9.8 graded sales of XM 94, looks like some buyer lost a lot of money on this book here as they paid an astounding $26,500 way way back in April of 2010 when it was only 1 of 5 copies in highest graded 9.8 condition, and then resold it only a short 1 year+ later in December of 2011 for only $10,399 when it was then 1 of 11 copies in highest graded 9.8 condition.

Although I would have to sadly agree with LordRahl here , especially from a general non-comic related POV, I most definitely know which one I would much rather prefer having in my own personal comic book collection.

For all of you X-Men aficionados here, isn't GSXM 1 supposedly worth more than X-Men 94 in grade? If this is indeed the case as I would supsect, why is GoCollect showing a FMV for GSXM 1 in CGC 9.8 at $60K which makes sense to me, and yet shows a FMV for XM 94 in CGC 9.8 at a substantially higher price point of $78K when I can't think of any sales in that price range?

Just IMAGINE the price you could get for a Stan Lee Signature copy from 2021!!!

Well, whatever it was or whoever they were, they seem to have taken a liking to quite a few of the Subby books if you take a closer look.

the clipped corner at an 8.5 If you have not read some of the previous rather boisterous pages here, issues like spines, edges, and corners are not something that we can calmly talk about here when it comes to the Promise Collection of books. Like this lot here, my personal take is that we will be seeing this perfectly matching clipped corner in an upcoming HA auction in the very near future:

What's your question or concern here?

Yeah, one day you could be on top of this crazed FOMO world looking like an absolute winner and dancing in the streets like crazy: And then, not before very long, you could be down in the dumps crying in your sleep wondering why you was so dumb to have sold so soon:

If I had a 100k to throw, it would miss both of those by a country mile. Miss by a country mile in which direction?

Yes, but that was kind of well deserved because didn't the prices dropped like a rock right after that mid-$80K and $90K sale for the FF 52? Of course, in today's crazed FOMO marketplace, the prices would most likely be right back up there. Yeah, with only 4 copies on the census in CGC 9.8, I see no problems for the MS 5 to top $100K, especially with the FF 48 in CGC 9.8 with a total of 45 copies still able to get close at $93,888 in the last CL Auction. Heck, even much more common uber HG books like Spidey 129 are hitting $55K, while GSXM 1 with over 200 copies slabbed in CGC 9.8 are now fetching into the $60K's, while the ever common as dirt Spidey 300 with over 1,400 copies in CGC 9.8 just saw a Signature copy go for $25K. Totally nutso out there right now. Is it possible that a low census count actually hurts the price of a book going forward, especially when they only appear in the marketplace once every several years? Especially, as compared to these other much more common BA books with multiple copies in every single auction with their reinforcing and self perpetuating market action which continues to drive their prices ever skywards.

Well, I would have to totally disagree with you on the sole reason that I have one of these MS 5's in my personal collection, along with probably every other comic book collector back in those days. As such, I hope a rising tide lifts all boats, including even slightly lower graded copies of MS 5, even though I haven't seen my copy in decades now and have absolutely no idea where it would be.