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If you want to look at recent auction results (like... last night) on ComicLink, it's no problem. They scroll through pages of results at a time. Yes, but that's only until the end of the auction early next week. After that, you won't be able to see anything at all. At least with CC, you can still scroll through all their links and simply call up any any lot you want to take a look at, with no end time at all.

I guess it's sort of regional because I always had the impression that there were a ton of Spidey 300's out there as they were always all over the place at the time. Of course, it was probably skewed due to the fact that McFarlane was pretty much a home town boy in our area who tended to show up at the local cons to happily sign his books for his fans before he became a big star in the comic book world. And Spidey 300, besides being a big anniversary issue, was definitely one of the more popular go to books that local collectors would grab for him to sign at the time.

If you keep the email messages sent to you by CC a couple of weeks ago, you can have access to every single auction listing that they have. Similar to the Heritage archives, these links seems to remain active forever, which allows you to then go back and see all of the previous auction results in detail bu individual lot. OK, but that's just one book at a time. How do I scroll through a page of results (from last night) in a way that looks like it did when there was still time remaining? Well, I guess you can't have it all and I personally wouldn't complain on this point. At least it's a whole ton better than CL which provides you with absolutely zippo nadda if you want to access their auction results history.

If you keep the email messages sent to you by CC a couple of weeks ago, you can have access to every single auction listing that they have. Similar to the Heritage archives, these links seems to remain active forever, which allows you to then go back and see all of the previous auction results in detail bu individual lot.

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Wow, that's certainly a nice copy that you managed to pick up here. Nothing better than a classic head smacking Nazi cover by Schomburg, similar in vein to his more classic jaw smacking Hitler cover on Cap 1. Only possible improvement on this Black Terror cover is if the Nazi he smacked had been Hitler himself. Looks like there's actually a nice copy of this book available on the CC auction website later this evening in a few short hours from now: https://www.comicconnect.com/bookDetail.php?id=775875 And an Overstreet Copy to boot, with White pages to top it off.

150K was the BIN for the 9.9 That's right. So, if I remember correctly, the actual price was somewhere in the low $140K's or mid $130K's.

Great colors on that one glad you got it +2 Yes indeed, definite congrats on being able to maintain both your cool and focus so that you could nail down what surely must be a grail book for you, especially in light of what must have been huge competition for this much in demand classic cover book. BTW: Did you managed to win this through a last second snipe bid or from a simple max bid which you had placed prior to the end of the auction. Either way, big congrats to you for winning this book.

Could possibly be due to auction fatigue as there have been far too many of these AS 8's popping up all over the place in far too short of a time. Definitely leaves one with the distinct impression that it is not that hard to find and if the particular copy available relative to price is not quite right, why not just wait and another one will come along in the next auction.

Have always been a fan of these Black Terror covers and this looks to be another one of these so-called Japanese "racist" World War 2 covers by Schomburg, although definitely not as outlandish as the more colorful Black Terror #5 which sold in the same auction: It would definitely appear that one of the hidden benefits of the Jon Berk Auction last summer was to remove some of the unfair stigma associated with both Conserved and Restored books. This is clearly evident as this copy would most probably have not sold at virtually the full condition guide price which it did achieve the other night, if it had been auctioned off a few years ago. Will be interesting to see how the earlier and seemingly rarer HTF Black Terror issues in the Exciting Comics will do in tonight's CC auction.

And it was listed in Chuck's MH catalog as a NM+ copy for what it's worth. Interesting to note that it also had a higher price point than all of its surrounding issues except for Blue Bolt 107 with the big red dinosaur cover which was also listed as a NM+ copy, but with the highest price point out of all the L.C. Blue Bolt covers.

It is featured on the dust jacket of Vol. 2 of the Golden Age Gerber, so it has been recognized as a great cover for a long time now. I distinctly remember that the cover for Blue Bolt 105 was used as the frontispiece for an GA art related coffee table type book, similar to how Suspense 3 was used as the frontispiece for the Gerber Photo-Journal. For the life of me though, I just can't remember exactly what book it was since I saw it on the shelves of my LCS several years ago. Obviously the book did not gain as much notoriety in the comic book hobby place as the Gerber Photo-Journal was able to achieved.

Just wondering if a boardie here was fortunate enough to win this beautiful Black Terror from CL the other night: Definitely a racist cover here as per many of the Japanese World War 2 covers, but absolutely love the combination of the red, green, and yellow colors against the black color of Black Terror's uniform.

But this is my overall point. The presentation was very nice for a 1.5 but it had tape. And we want a logical reason why it went so high. Buy the book not the label +2 This was definitely a case of bidders bidding on the underlying book itself, as opposed to bidding on that label in the top left hand corner.

Word on the street is that it suffers from SCS and wouldn't even grade a 9.6 now. (But who knows if there is any truth to that rumour or not.) So, I imagine this must be something in the ballpark of $150K worth of SCS damage since I can't remember what the actual sale price was.

The above numbers are from 2016. I just did the "snapshot" of available copies of ASM #300 (CGC'd). 129 copies, 96 direct editions, 33 newsstands. That's a 3-to-1 for direct-to-newsstand. The average slabbed grade is 9.1 for direct, 8.3 for newsstand. +0.8 for direct. Yes, makes perfect sense that there should be a greater proportion of better condition copies from the Direct market versions and hence moreof these would have been slabbed and resold. But as RMA has pointed out below, probably not to the point where there is a belief of a significant difference in price between the American newsstand version from the American Direct market version: Hence, my personal belief for the seemingly higher prices on these more recent and common CA books is that CL has a strong customer base for these HG BA and CA books because this is where CL originally built their reputation. Customers loyal to the point that they probably don't even bother to look at the CC offerings since their reputation is more towards the older vintage more expensive collectible books which is much more their forte. The only reason I can think of for why there would be sometimes hundreds of dollars of difference for these same common books in exactly the same CGC grade?

With all of this hyper activity in terms of Hulk 181, do you guys think the buyer of the CGC 9.9 graded copy for what was at the time an insane nosebleed price finally be able to recoup his money at this point in time should he decide to sell it? Or was this the copy that seemingly now has some kind of "damage" and would no longer grade out this high should it ever be resubmitted?

Nifty results. Good for us guys in the Junior 15 Club. It’s been years since there’s been something so stimulating Rick definitely has fantastic taste when it come to the GGA covers: I have always loved all of the Junior covers, especially this Junior 15 along with Junior 13. Not sure why Overstreet used to designate Junior 11 as the classic cover way back then, but I was never able to find them in nice enough condition to satisfy me before they started to move out of my price range. I guess I should not have been that picky as I simply assumed there must be high grade or pedigree copies which I would run into eventually.

Yes, definitely not much movement at all in these early and rare HTF pre-hero DC books. A classic and perfect example of books that very seldom ever comes to market and hence, not enough market activity for them to ever go up much in price. I may have been wrong as there does appear to be movement in these early pre-hero DC books, but unfortunately it appears to be on the downside. Not sure if CL was the best venue for these early books, but it looks like both of the low grade New Comics 2 and the mid-grade New Book of Comics 2 managed to sell at only a huge discount to their condition guide price.

CL181 9.8 is back at all time high price levels of a few years ago when they'd sell for 30K+ If I am not mistaken, I believe it was more than just a few years ago. Wasn't it something like 15 years ago or thereabouts that it cracked the $30K mark and has come down ever since until this just completed CL auction? Does anybody here remember the year and at what price point the $30K+ copy sold for?

Yes. A few folks have been talking about it for many, many years, but there's an entrenched belief that there's no difference between the two. And, for the most part, they're right. However, the early Direct market versions (what people used to call "Whitman" versions, but which were probably not exclusive to Whitman as far as Marvel was concerned) are rather rarer than their newsstand counterparts, and by the late 90s, the opposite was true. Yes, I imagine the newsstand copies should in theory be tougher to find in grade by the late 80's as the Direct market should have been in place to supply virtually all of the LCS's by then. Any idea approximately when the change took place that the regular local newsstand distributors gave way to the Direct comic book distributors for the LCS's? I imagine this would not have been consistently implemented across the various regions throughout the country at the same time. So, would I be correct to assume that most of the LCS's would still have been receiving their comic books from their regular local newsstand distributors around the early 80's?

True, plus none of those ASM 300s on ComicConnect are newsstand, if we're attempting to evaluate the book that @october posted. Well, it looks like the bidding for all of the Spidey 300's didn't really go into extended bidding except for the double cover copy which moved up a couple hundred dollars during the extended time bidding. It also looks like the CGC 9.0 newsstand version of Spidey 300 on CL managed to get pretty much the same as the CGC 9.2 Direct version of the book. So, maybe the substantially higher prices which the CL newsstand copies managed to get does have something to do with the Canadian price variant and/or the newsstand versions versus the Direct versions. I noticed on the CL Canadian newsstand version, CGC clearly designates the book as a Canadian Edition on the label. Yet, at the same time, it seems that they do not bother to differentiate between the newsstand and the Direct version for the American copies. Is this because there is not that much of a perceived price difference between the 2 different versions when it comes to the American editions of the books?

I think it’s safe to say that Bats 1 has pulled away from any discussion of being neck and neck with Cap 1. Bats 1 is the #4 book in the hobby You should be careful of how you phrase your opinions on these boards here. After all, Mitch who is a huge supporter of Cap 1 just might see your comments and decide to give you a good here until your head really hurts.

Was that the one that had no staples to begin with but showed up later correctly stapled? Most probably that's the one. All I remember is when Borock came onto these boards here after days of angst and in order to clarify the controversy that was stirring and running rampant at the time, gave us the following statement: "Disassembly and reassembly of a comic book in and of itself does not constitute restoration" I believe it was somewhere along those lines and as per usual, the typical retroactive way by force that we find out about CGC's grading and restoration standards, instead of having them proactively and properly disseminated to the collectors and marketplace. And like the whole undisclosed pressing controversy that came to light a few months just prior to this, it unfortunately opened the floodgates even wider to much more artificial undisclosed manipulation of the books.

I did ask. Matt says they can’t. I don’t know the mechanics of this, why sometimes they can and why sometimes they can’t I guess it's a different case if the staples were never attached to the pages in the first place. Remember the infamous Church copy of Boy Comics 17 where it went from an original CGC 3.0 graded copy up to a CGC 73.5 graded copy before finally settling into a CGC 9.0 slab, all while retaining its blue label at the same time. That also had something to do with staples that were never attached in the first place and then simply attached for a big upgrade.