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CGC Mike

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  1. On 11/19/2021 at 9:50 PM, Tein said:

    I was looking into how long a re holder would be it says 81 days is this accurate or is that the longest it will take? very hesitant on sending in after reading that.

     

    Hello

    81 working days is an estimate.  It will be more or less, depending on the work load received prior to the time your order arrives at CGC.

  2. On 11/19/2021 at 4:53 PM, COI said:

    Just a general, screaming-into-the-void type comment, directed at no one in particular.

    I hope I live long enough to see social media administrators of all types across every platform on the internet realize that creating "safe spaces"  that are "all inclusive" is impossible. Once you get more than a few people together in a group, there will be clashes of culture, personality, and just basic temperament. And when you're talking about online communication via the written word, just plain old misunderstandings are inevitable. The type of soft hazing we used to do around here which, in the culture broadly, has fallen way out of fashion, served a purpose. It forced "newbies" to learn to take responsibility for their own feelings, and not expect an already established group to immediately accommodate those feelings. 

    My 2 cents about moderation is that the heavy-handed approach does not work. You can draw your limits around outright attacks/insults/threats, but you can't create or control the "climate" from the top down. A more positive climate happens with social cohesion, and social cohesion also cannot be arranged with a bunch of rules. It happens when individuals make an effort to adapt to the group, as opposed to trying to make the group adapt to them.

    Just to use the TWSS nonsense as an example, trying to get people to stop saying it by making a rule doesn't work, because the people who are beating everyone to death with it are ignoring social cues. And they can do this because our ability to dish out social cues is dampened by this misguided idea that all conflict is bad and that bullying is a necessary condition to hurt feelings. Stuff like hazing or piling-on when someone is doing something that the majority find annoying are the normal ways in which a group communicates to the "offender" that they need to moderate their own behavior, at which point they either adapt or leave.

    Again, just throwing my 2 cents into the void. I'm glad to see CGC throwing some resources into moderation. 

     

    Thank you for your post.  You make some very good points.  I agree that heavy handed moderation is not the way to go. Just before I became "official", I started posting missing rules in most of the FS threads, and allowed people 24 hours to make changes.  I also marked most of the reports complete vs taking action.  I have also communicated will multiple board members privately, to help them understand ways to avoid moderator action.  The ones that listened saw a huge change for the better regarding posting restrictions.  Also, some people that were in conflict have resolved their differences.  Another thing I do is make a post in the thread where an argument is occurring, vs issuing warnings.   In the past, many things were marked under review, and left for an admin, who would show up once a week for an hour.  That led to a lot of warnings, and set a precedent for future moderation action.  Since, I have took over and am here full time, I have taken a different approach.  I first reached out to the admin towards the end of September, saying I would be taking over soon, and explained my new direction.  So, that person basically stopped then. Yesterday, I was looking at 2 graphs.  The 1st graph shows the warnings, and the second shows reported content.  Note the downhill trend.

     

     

     

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  3. On 11/18/2021 at 2:56 PM, ttfitz said:

    Although I "liked" your message, upon reflection I decided that I actually like some of the replacements for the deemed unacceptable but not "bad" words. You know, the insufficently_thoughtful_person type words.

    The ones I really dislike are the ones that just delete the word, leaving nothing at all. I had someone in a PM one time think that I never voted anymore because a word was just deleted without any indication anything was missing. Not sure what the rationale for that would be.

    I will check into this.  The list is very long but, most are set for exact, which I believe means no change.  I will also do some more tests.  

  4. On 11/18/2021 at 9:08 AM, D84 said:

    @CGC Mike

    How about when someone writes in a bad word, instead of changing it to spoon or whatever, it becomes the censored emoji?

    I changed the text on one of the bad words listed to the text of the censored emoji, and tested it.  The software doesn't allow the text to convert to an image.  It appears in the post as (:censored:)  

  5. On 11/17/2021 at 5:08 PM, universal soldier said:

    @CGC Mike looks like you just need to edit the ones you put in and then maybe provide a glossary of the changes.

    ":82964208_goodvsevilemoji:" is  :82964208_goodvsevilemoji: so editing it to :goodvsevil: will shorten things up. I don't think you need to anything other than that.

    This worked!  (worship)  Thank you.  I was trying to resave the emojis in my computer, and it wouldn't let me do it without the numbers and the word emoji.  I will get the rest changed.  

  6. On 11/17/2021 at 3:38 PM, JasonTodd69 said:
    On 11/17/2021 at 12:55 PM, CGC Mike said:

    Actually, I have mentioned a few times, that I was not going to allow talks about what is said on the other forum.  So, I did actually address all of these posts.  BTW, if talks about what is said ATS continues, I will have to dish out warnings.  

    can I participate in the grading competition?

    Yes.

  7. On 11/17/2021 at 1:15 PM, Boz aka G G © ® ™ said:

    Roy is victim. He likes that mantle  He also tells porkies.

    FTR I do not have him on Ignore and I never have I'm confident moderation would confirm this.

    I have had his back in the past despite his ridiculous Standpoints.

    I'm done with his pathological need for attention.

    That is all.

     

     

     

     

     

    This type of post is not acceptable.  I have seen it multiple times.  Please stop.  

  8. On 11/17/2021 at 1:00 PM, VintageComics said:

    OK, I appreciate that...but what about all of the taunting and talk ABOUT OTHER MEMBERS ON THIS FORUM? ???

    Being the butt of jokes continually from people who I have very little association with is a form of harassment. You've been aware of these harrassments for weeks because you've warned these people already and they still persist.

    And yet when I rebut them I get a warning.

    Or when I hit the notify button too often I get a strike.

    So, can I hit notify on all the harassing posts to show a pattern of behavior without getting moderated for hitting the notify button too often?

     

    This happens a lot so, maybe others will benefit from this post.  If someone says something that offends you, the best thing to do is report the post and let me handle it.  What I see happen is, the person that is being offended confronts the other person.  Back and forth posts occur, and I am invited to the party too late.  When I read the posts between the two parties involved, most of the time the offending blows have balanced to the point where I can either tell both people to stop now, or I can issue them both warnings.  If I am notified right off instead of replying to the person, I can then take action, if I find the post offensive enough to do so.  Sometimes, it doesn't quite violate the terms of use.  In that case, I will mark it under review.  If it happens again and I see a pattern, I will then take action.  Instead of doing the same thing every time, try this approach.  It may take a little time to see change but, I can guarantee you that it will happen.  Or, you can continue to take matters into your own hands, and the loop that offends you will never end.

    BTW, this goes for multiple people on these boards.  I am not singling anyone out.