Topnotchman

CGC has made mistakes also, they noted the 1967 Star trek #1 as having a variant back cover for over a decade, all copies have the same back cover.

Just checked my inventory, I have two copies. One newsstand the other direct edition, both are blue like the pictured copied above.

I would be in the camp that finger bends after pressing would lean toward a poor press job, or perhaps the order never got pressed at all due to an administrative mistake. A corner crease is likely a flaw that the OP missed during pre screen and was there the whole time.

Yes, I've had many copies of this book.

https://www.cgccomics.com/census/grades_standard.asp?title=Superman&publisher=D%2EC%2E+Comics&issue=nn&year=1988&issuedate=1988 Looks like a 4.0

Sold my 9.9 signed by Stan in 2012, looks like someone has almost tripled there investment.

Ive noticed that book has trended up but not that much Has been a solid selling book in 9.8 for years, I picked a 9.8 candidate at a show aside another educated copperhead. He keept asking me if I wanted that book I said I definitely want this book. The 345 in 9.8 has been expensive for years. The 344 goes for around $125-150 in 9.8 also Doesn't show up too often, but $400 is outrageous. That's more than what 340 goes for in 9.8 Last sale for 345 on Heritage was $167. There's another one ending next week... 340 and 345 both have cool covers to me. The 345 has 38 9.8's to 600 for the 340. I don't see the census exploding on the 345 as its snitch to find in grade.

Ive noticed that book has trended up but not that much Has been a solid selling book in 9.8 for years, I picked a 9.8 candidate at a show aside another educated copperhead. He keept asking me if I wanted that book I said I definitely want this book.

How about Spawn 185 sketch.

7 times more ASM 252 CGC 9.8 on census compared to PP 64 CGC 9.8. I'm sure that number will go up if the price keeps going up but that's a vast difference in numbers. There are plenty of this book out there. I just don't think people have bothered slabbing it yet. Before this recent pop there were NO sales of CGC copies of the book, but plenty of raw sales (at respectable prices). With that said, I don't know what the respective print-runs were. Need to find my copies. Of course, my OO copy was read by my brother and I about 25 times each, so I'm sure that one is pretty rough. Could be and I'm sure plenty of 9.6 will be cracked, pressed and resubbed if the price goes crazy but PP 64s have been $400 - $550 book in 9.8 for a couple years. Are you saying people have been sitting on them since $500 was just not enough of an incentive to get their high grade copy subbed? I've been submitting this book consistently for a decade, my data base indicates I've sold 15 9.8's, 6 9.6's, 4 9.4's. I sold a copy last fall for around $550.00, so this book was on a down swing this first quarter. I would say this book is not rare in high grade, average difficulty. There are typically three levels of speculative marketing: the Innovator, the Imitator, and the insufficiently_thoughtful_person. In the past week we have transitioned between steps one and two.

I would say the cover stock was of poor quality for the Forever People #1 compared to other cover stock within that time period.

While that price is high those books have sold well for years in almost any grade. Several years ago a boardie on here tipped me off to that book. I bought 15 copies and around 10 sets of the 1-3. I did very well and sent some cash his way. It wouldn't matter how many copies you have you can sell this book at all times of the year and in almost any grade. I have been amazed at it. The Marvel Super Special is the one that is really tough to find. I can sell that book without a picture it sells so well. The back cover is classic. I might even cut out a back page and have it framed I like it so much. I remember ordering over 50 copies of the MSS 40 from Mile High web site when he had it at 80 cents per copy. This was around the year 2000 and I flipped them for an average of $35-50 per book back than. After my discount and free shipping it came out to 50 cents a book delivered. Oh the days when Mile High way littered with bargains.

12k without a resto/trim check . To seller who isn't familiar with comics. Definitely a gamble. I called and talked to the guy and asked if I won the auction could I inspect the book in hand before paying. I also could pay in cash if he preferred. I don't think the book is restored but I had a concern with the condition of the book being closer to a 4.0 or worse and possible coupon missing pages. He said I could pick it up in person but I had to pay for the book first through Ebay. If I had any problems I would have to file a paypal dispute as its being sold as is no returns. I said I'll pass and won't be bidding. The seller was about five hours from me and I was willing to make the trip to complete the deal. I could understand the seller wanting to be paid before he turned over the book, as he doesn't really know you and he could be robbed. But he should have agreed to return your money if, on inspection of the book you decided you didn't want it. +1 or I would have asked if he could meet at his bank to do the inspection and paid in cash. I've done this before and it worked out really well. I said we could meet at his nearest Wells Fargo. The Ebay rep he spoke to on the phone was pressuring him to only completing the sale on Ebay. If I paid direct, I told him we could cancel the sale and he would get his $850.00 back from Ebay. He was close to taking my deal, but the Ebay rep put a fear in the back of his mind.

12k without a resto/trim check . To seller who isn't familiar with comics. Definitely a gamble. I called and talked to the guy and asked if I won the auction could I inspect the book in hand before paying. I also could pay in cash if he preferred. I don't think the book is restored but I had a concern with the condition of the book being closer to a 4.0 or worse and possible coupon missing pages. He said I could pick it up in person but I had to pay for the book first through Ebay. If I had any problems I would have to file a paypal dispute as its being sold as is no returns. I said I'll pass and won't be bidding. The seller was about five hours from me and I was willing to make the trip to complete the deal.

Bingo I've never had a sales thread here.

I noticed that the new Overstreet still has Cerebus 1 in 9.2 ahead of Hulk 181 in 9.2. Just in case someone was wondering.

Sold a four figure book and would do it again on a dimes notice. Thanks

Photo Journal guide to comics has a chart on page a-6 with estimated copies still in existence today. The year 1961 is 10% while 1964 is 20% making 1963 around 15%. With a 150K print run that would put it around 22,500. I feel that is an accurate estimated survival rate.

We call them ViQueens around here... Also noticed the poll is leading away with over 22,791 estimate. And 55% of respondents estimate about 11k or less. (thumbs u -J. There can only be one winner and first place goes to over 22,721.

We call them ViQueens around here... Also noticed the poll is leading away with over 22,791 estimate.

Comic stores between 1978 and 1988, it was common that they had Silver Age collections walking in the door once or twice a week. Out of those collections within a years time just say the mega 500 comic stores could of scored 1-3 copies of an AF 15. With a ratio of 75 collections in a year with just 3% containing an AF 15, that would be 2 copies per store. So that would make 500 stores with 2 copies each, or 1,000 copies a year, for a decade, 10,000 copies. You can also add in smaller comic shops, CBG mail order dealers, convention dealers. That gets you through the bulk years of when original owner Silver Collections were recycled into the back issue market. You than have the decade of the 1990's when Silver collections thinned out dramatically. Its not that AF 15 didn't trade, just much less frequent than the previous decade due to the lower volume of original owner Silver Collections coming to market. You also have the 2000 to current where some shops don't see but one or two Silver collections in a years time. So did Silver collections all of a sudden become scarce? No, they just are not for sale in the same ratio as they were from the late 70's through the 80's. So is AF 15 all of a sudden scarce. No, it just does not come up for sale at the same ratio as it did from the late 70's through the 80's. When collectors forked out $50-$300 for a low grade copy the 80's, they absolutely did not throw it away, its still in a bag and board, in box in there collection, not for sale.

In the 80's many of the established comic shops were getting multiple silver age collections walking in the door weekly. Silver age comics were around 20 years old at the time. Only a portion of the comic collections contained an AF 15, but those Silver Age comics were resold to collectors in the 1980's and many are still in that current collection. The number of AF 15's that were recycled to there second owner is a staggering number. I would estimate at least 20% of the initial print run is still in collections today. Minimum 20K copies.

This is spot on folks.

Ebay sales 9.8 Blue label Star Wars #1 1/31 $1704.00 paid and shipped 2/2 $1575.00 paid and shipped 2/4 $1875.00 paid and shipped 2/18 $1825.00 paid and shipped 2/26 $1540.00 paid and shipped 2/27 $1750.00 paid and shipped How do I know, one was mine and I personally emailed each seller of the other copies. They all were paid and shipped. Some were buy it now, some were auction. Will it hold up, depends on how many copies surface. The days of the $500.00 dollar 9.8 are in the rear view mirror.

Just made a call to an old friend of mine who was full time in the business back in the late 70's. When Star Wars 1 came out the newsstand distributors would of sold them via bundle's. A company like Seagate would of sold them to comic stores in some type of boxes. There were remainders on the back issue market from both types of distribution. At the time DC was canceling Kirby fourth world titles with 150K print run. Star Wars 1 print run was well above a DC cancelation title.