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    Survey about comic art auctions

    in Original Comic Art

    Posted

    38 minutes ago, The Voord said:

    I'm not hung up on superhero types so found the survey very interesting, visually, for the diversity of strips and artistic styles.  Very few things on show that I'm familiar with, so my answers were based on whether or not I found the artwork in question visually appealing and I probably liked about 65% of what I saw.

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    Checking International References...approach?

    in Original Comic Art

    Posted

    Re: PayPal Friends and Family
    If they are sending you money using that, they are giving up their ability to reclaim it. So, it's in the seller's favor. Pretty big act of trust on the buyer's part, I think.

    Re: CAF
    I would say that's an encouraging sign. Another would be participation in other comic forums, e.g., this page or some of the OA groups on Facebook.

    The OFFICIAL "This week in your ORIGINAL ART collection?"

    in Original Comic Art

    Posted

    On 5/24/2020 at 10:27 AM, GreatEscape said:

    Happy Memorial Day weekend folks!  

    Something truly special to post... a magnificent splash from legendary French artist, Philippe Druillet!  Druillet revolutionized the comics narrative with "The Six Voyages of Lone Sloane" in 1972 and this is the opening splash from the first voyage "The Throne of the Black God" introducing the space-traveling Lone Sloane and-- you guessed it-- the mysterious Throne of the Black God!  A true pioneer of graphic storytelling, Druillet was one of the founders of Heavy Metal (“Métal Hurlant”) and revered as one of Europe's "Big 3" along with Moebius and Hergé.   Drawn with colossal scale (28" x 36" inches!), among the largest pen-and-ink OA ever created.  

    Just a tad bigger than my scanner, so my daughter was happy to pose with it:  

    Link

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    Be safe, stay healthy and enjoy your long weekend!

    I'm not familiar with the artist, but that is a flat out remarkable (and remarkably large) work of art. Congratulations. Has the story every been collected in English? My French is rusty, very rusty.

    What comics do OA boardies collect?

    in Original Comic Art

    Posted

    I seldom buy old comics though I picked up an All-American #6. 
     

    However, I do have a pull list. It’s a bit long so I put it spoiler tags. 
     

    Spoiler
    There are some creators that I will trust on almost anything - Art Baltazar, Jason Aaron, Dan Abnett, Kurt Busiek, Jeff Lemire, and a few others.
     
    Some books I read in the trades. For some, I'm years and years behind, but that makes for good Christmas/Birthday/Anniversary presents.

    Dark Horse
    • Usagi Yojimbo - If you aren't reading this you are making a terrible mistake.

    Image
    • Age of Bronze - What can I say, I loved the Iliad, the Odyssey, and the Aeneid.
    • Invincible - Fun comic though it has it's dark moments
    • Powers

    Vertigo
    • Preacher





    My monthly pull list:

    Abstract Studios
    • Five Years - The Terryverse countdown is running. Can it be saved? 

    Action Lab
    •  
     
    Archaia
    • Mouse Guard - mideaval mouse civilization struggles in their world - wonderful
    Aftershock
    •  
    Antarctic Press
    • Punchline - Girl gets powers and a mentor and then...
    Boom!
    • Black Badge - What kids who want more than scouting gives do.
    • Once and Future - Excalibur’s scabard shows up and Arthur shows up in England’s darkest hour, but is he the cause of that hour?
    • Folklords - In a world of wonders, one rebellious teen seeks our mundane world
     
    Dark Horse
    • Black Hammer - Sort of a version of the JLA trapped in a universe where time doesn’t seem to flow much. Interesting read by Jeff Lemire.
    • Black Hammer ’45 - Set during WW2
    • Elfquest - 35 years old and still strong. Remarkable work.
    •  
     
    DC
    • Action Comics - Good stories well told
    • Aquaman - Good stories well told
    • Batman/Superman
    • DCeased - Sort of a zombie tale
    • Dial H for Hero - fun stuff
    • Doom Patrol - an odd but interesting book not sure where it is going
    • Doomsday Clock - a solid story tarnished by late delivery - read it in a trade!
    • Far Sector - A young GL out on the edges 
    • Flash - A younger Barry Allen, but not unlike the Silver Age one.
    • Flash Forward - Wally West lost in the multiverse
    • Green Lantern
    • Inferior 5 - not to be confused with the original, but an interesting tale set after Invasion
    • Jimmy Olsen - fun
    • Justice League
    • Justice League Dark
    • Justice League Odyssey
    • Legion of Super-Heroes
    • Lois Lane - mystery by Rucka and Perkins and worth the read
    • Metal Men - Shane Davis’ best art
    • Shazam - a reasonable compromise between the original and more recent takes.
    • Supergirl
    • Superman - Excellent series so far of the pre-Flashpoint Superman and family in the Rebirth world
    • Superman Smashes the Klan - excellent
    • Superman Up in the Sky - a very moving story
    • Superman’s Pal, Jimmy Olsen - It’s a hoot
    • Terrifics - Mr. Terrific and a team take on the worlds
    • Titans
    • Wonder Twins - Silly, but fun
    • Wonder Woman - One of the best of the new 52, I really enjoy it, but the team is changing
    • Young Justice 
    Dynamite
    •  
     
    Fantagraphics
    •  
     
    Icon
    •  
     
    IDW
    • Ragnarok - Walt Simonson visits the Norse myths after the big event. Wonderful art backed by a solid well paced story with interesting characters. Buy this book.
     
    Image
    • A Distant Soil - Probably better to start with the remastered trades. She's doing the last dozen issues now.
    • Curse Words - a devil escapes from Hell to save the world ?
    • Copperhead - Story of the sheriff of the titular town - space western
    • Excellence - Power struggle at the peak of society
    • Farmhand - Literally, spare parts are grown on a Louisiana farm, but there’s much more going on.
    • Isola - A queen turned to a tiger due to the failure of her trusted guard
    • Middlewest - Skottie Young crafts a tale of three generations with terrible tempers and power to match
    • Outpost Zero - a generation ship crashes on a snowball of a planet and …
    • Outer Darkness - Demon powered space ships and ...
    • Paper Girls - a group of paper delivery girls goes out one morning and it gets really strange - terrific book
    • Prodigy - Mark Millar writes, I buy. It’s that simple
    • Sea of Stars - Space pilot dad and son get separated and then …
    • Seven to Eternity - A quest to save their home
    • Trees - Giant towers land on earth
    • Undiscovered Country - The US locked off from the rest of the world and a global plague
    kaboom!
    •  

    Marvel
    • Thor (various titles) - Jason Aaron continues the best Thor streak ever
    • Miles Morales: Spider-man - a young man gains spiderpowers and tries to do good with them as he grows
    • Power Pack

    Oni Press
    •  
    Thirdworld Studios
    • The Stuff of Legend - Excellent book with beautiful story telling
    Valiant
    •  
     
    Vertigo (DC)
    • HIgh Level - A quest

     

     

    Amethyst, Modred the Mystic etc [Original Comic Art]

    in Original Comic Art

    Posted

    5 hours ago, Bart Allen said:

    There was a lot I found: JSA #50 p.17 Color Guide Art - Jakeem's Genie Splash - 2003, but the seller stated:

    "This is a B&W STAT photo copy that a colorist painted over to create the published page. This is color art only, the original pencils and inks aren't on here."

    I'm a bit unsure as to what this is ~ Is this original art? Is this technically not classed as comic-art if it's photocopied? Or a bit like a color guide?

    Yes, it's a color guide. The seller calls it that in the title.

    As for whether or not it is "original art," I'd say, "Yes, someone hand painted it." 

    As for wheter or not it is worth buying, I'd say, "If you enjoy it, yes. If you expect it to appreciate like the pages that were drawn and inked by hand, I'd say no."

    opinion of value?

    in Original Comic Art

    Posted · Edited by alxjhnsn

    Yes, markers can fade and change colors. Black will turn bluish and fade.

    When questions about value come up, I take the "teach a man to fish" approach. Since I post this write-up often and since it is long, I've put it in spoiler tags. If desired, you can PM your email address to me and I'll send it right along.

     

    Spoiler

    Whether you are pricing to sell or buy, you might want to explore the following resources

    • The website Comic Art Tracker can help you find art and look at current asking prices for similar pieces.
    • The OA auction archive at Heritage Auctions – This archive presents the results from all of their OA auctions.. Once you sign-up and get an id, you can search for pieces by your artist and see what they have sold for.
    • Ebay’s completed listings. The data is only 30 days old, but it is a place to find pricing for commonly traded artists.
    • The CAF Market Data - More auction results (more than 1,000,000) are available if you join the Comic Art Fans site, pay for Market Data access, and access eBay’s archive (much more than 30 days worth), Heritage Auctions, and other auction sites.
    • The Comic Art Database. It contains transaction records entered by the owners of Comic OA.
    • Dealer sites. 
      • Dealers, generally, post their art with fixed prices though there are exceptions. 
      • The best dealer list is available on Comic Art Tracker. You can see it here. 
      • There other dealer lists, e.g., there is a list of dealers on CGC OA board and one on the Dragonberry site as well. 
      • The CAF site will search the inventories of several dealers for you. However, the Comic Art Tracker is better.
    • Blouin Art Info which tracks sales at major art auctions. It can turn up some Comic OA as well. Look for the “Art Prices” item on the top right of the screen
    • Jerry Weist's Comic Art Price Guide - Heritage published a third edition of it. In my opinion, it's a good history book and might be useful for comparison work, but it was out of date a year before it was printed.
    • A topic  on the CGC OA boards, A-level panel page valuations by artist/run - thoughts/additions/changes?, holds a discussion that relates to your question. It provides some "generally agreed upon" ranges for popular runs by popular artists on popular characters.
    • The Biggest OA Prices thread tracked some of the largest sales in the OA space. While that particular thread has stopped; it's probably worth reading for the discussions. Meanwhile , the information is still being updated - just with a different mechanism.
    • Dealer quotations are valuable. To get one, you approach a dealer with the art (in person) or image (by email) and ask what they would offer for it. If they make an offer, remember that they need significant margin especially if they feel that the piece will not sell immediately. You might double their offer to reach a retail price. Of course, this is a very hard to manage approach. An excellent list of dealers can be found on Comic Art Tracker here. Check a few and use those that seem to carry art like you are trying to sell - some dealers do specialize.
    If you are pricing to sell, there are a couple of addition resource types:
    You can get a list of Auction Houses on the ComicArtTracker site here and dealers here. ComicArtTracker has the most comprehensive list on the internet.
     
    Another source of original art valuation opinions would be to ask on Facebook pages and the CGC Marketplace. However, prepare for odd/funny answers, unsolicited offers, and the usual social media snark. That said, here are some links from Facebook:
    I do not claim that this is either exhaustive or useful.
     
     
    Even with the information above, new buyers and sellers often find that OA is too hard to price. I agree that it is difficult. However, I think that there is a valid reason. Each piece is unique. Uniqueness make art sales generally and OA specifically non-linear. Examples of how piece can differ in ways that impact pricing include:
    • Content: Consecutive pages could and do sell for radically different amounts based on their content. 
    • Page Layout: In general, you might say:

     Covers > 1st Page Splash > Other Splash > 1/2 splash > panel page

    However, that's not always true either. The right panel page can be much more compelling than a bland splash.

    • Penciler vs. character: There are "A-list" artists, but not all of their books/characters have the same value. Kirby FF pages generally go for more than JIM/Thor pages which go for more than Cap pages (2nd run) which go for more than ...
    • Pencilers/inkers combinations - Kirby/Sinnott FF pages rank above Kirby and anyone else on FF, but a Kirby/InkerX FF page might be more or less than a Kirby/Stone Thor page. Hard to tell.
    • Production Technique:
      • Classic - pencils, letters, and inks all on the same page
      • Recent - pencils and inks on the same page - no lettering
      • Modern - pencils and inks on different pages - no lettering
    In general, Classic > Recent > Modern
     
    When looking at a "split" Modern page, consider what it might be worth if done in Recent style and then split the cost with 60% of the "Modern-style" page going for the pencils and 40% going for the blue-line inks. Why? The penciller tells the story and that's the page (s)he handled. The inked page has the advantage of being the published page, but even so most prefer the pencil page.
     

    Finally, you should join the comic book OA community. The main points of Internet contact are:

    The main points of physical contact are probably:

    • Dedicated Comic Art Shows
      • Comic Art Con (Spring/Fall) - A twice yearly show originally in northern NJ, but moving to NYC. The domain seems to have lapsed, but the show owner has a page for it here.
      • NYC Comic Art Expo - Annual spring show, nothing but art people (dealers, individual sellers, and buyers) and a few local artists. Held at the Penn Hotel opposite Penn Station
      • Torpedo Comics Collectors Convention (née LA Comic Art Show) - Annual art show one week before SDCC to leverage the dealer’s visit to the west coast
    • Conventions with High Dealer Attendance
    • Shows with a comic artist focus
      • Heroes Comic Con - Not a lot of comic art dealers, but a huge number of artists who generally will draw and have portfolios to sell
      • Baltimore Comic Con - Similar to HeroesCon.

    One last comment, if you are looking to buy or sell, spend the time to learn the market. That might take 6 months, but it's worth the time.

     

    WTB - Scribbly Panel Page by Sheldon Mayer

    in Original Comic Art Marketplace

    Posted

    Well, that was fun. Four Scribbly pages were placed for sale by Lanney Mayer, Sheldon's son, in the Nate D. Sanders Auction. I bid enough to compete, but I lost. Frankly, I think they'd have raised more money selling the four pages as four lots rather than one. Sigh...

    Here are those pages for your viewing pleasure.

    Final price for the four? Final price including buyers premium.:    $29,845 plus State Sales Tax and Shipping

    I'm still looking.

    Scribbly 60151_1_lg.jpeg

    Scribbly 60151_2_lg.jpeg

    Scribbly 60151_3_lg.jpeg

    Scribbly 60151_4_med.jpeg