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On 7/18/2018 at 12:20 PM, Bronty said:
You know it
other notables include a five minute old Terese Nielsen painting on eBay at 15k with three days to go and a Volkan Baga of similar recent vintage that just went for 25. Crazy what the brand new stuff can go for
Meanwhile I bought another Baga from the same set for $1550 the same week (and I like the art more!)
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Final hammer price on Arcades Sabboth was $30K (exactly the reserve).
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2 minutes ago, buyatari said:
Those two covers both convey the feel of the game. You know you are getting a fantasy RPG.
If it is now a desirable card that would explain things a bit. I bought and sold the cards back in the day but didn't play much. I had a booster box and a complete set of Arabian Night at one point.
The Arabian Nights set I sold for $800-$1200 tops. It was so long ago that I don't remember but I thought that Kird Ape was a cheap common card.
Juzam Djinn is now worth $1200 by itself.
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6 minutes ago, buyatari said:
I loved the Arabian Nights set. One day I'd like to pick up a painting from that set but not if the commons are selling for 50k !
That is probably a top 10 card from the set. Picking up something like Ghazban Ogre or Fishliver Oil would probably only run you $3-10K (hard to say since I've never seen ANY Arabian Nights card art sell).
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2 minutes ago, buyatari said:
Thanks for posting this. These are the cards that I remember. I stopping playing around this time.
How often do these early cards change hands these days?
Not very often, at least publicly. Maybe 1-2 a year for the really valuable ones.
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5 minutes ago, buyatari said:
This one?
50k?
I understand a love of the art that makes up the game that you love but this is just an image of a gorilla.
It doesn't have a magic / fantasy bone in its entire body.
Yep, there are lots of reasons for this, but the main one is the card was very powerful for its day. Power of the card trumps all else when talking about the price of magic art. Being from the first expansion for the game also holds some relevance.
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2 minutes ago, Bronty said:
It highlights how non-linear the growth has been. I almost bought Kird Ape for 2k in or around 2010. It was 530 in 1993 - modest growth for 17 years. Now what would it be? 20k? All of the growth has been in the last say 8 years
Yes, it's been a crazy 5 or so years of price explosion. I asked the owner of Kird Ape what he wanted for it 2 years ago and he said $50K. He's probably not too far off.
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4 minutes ago, Bronty said:
Boy that matting and framing job is not helping the art any. Yuck
It's the frame/mat the artist put on it...it's awful.
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26 minutes ago, buyatari said:
Did Magic art really sell for $500 back in 1993?
That honestly seems like a lot of money for this art in 1993.
This was after all the really good stuff had already been snapped up for similar prices.
Original Artwork Availability List
and Artist Contact SheetJanuary 1995 Edition
Due to numerous requests for information on how to purchase original artwork
used in Magic: The Gathering* game, Wizards of the Coast, Inc. has compiled
the following list. Wizards of the Coast is providing this information as a
service to both its customers and the artists it employs. This list is merely
an offer by the artist or the artist's representative to negotiate. Wizards
of the Coast makes no guarantees as to availability, pricing, or current
accuracy of any information contained herein.To use this list, look up the name of the card containing the artwork you are
interested in buying. The next column over will contain the name of the
artist who did the piece. The last column will list its availability or the
latest price quote. If you donUt see a particular artwork listed, it means
that it is not available or has already been sold.Some pieces are indicated as R@WGS by their price listing. This means that
the artwork is available through WIZARDS Gallery, which is independently
operated by Marcus R. Rieck and is not affiliated with Wizards of the Coast.
Information on how to contact him is provided at the end of the Artist
Contacts section of this list.Also included are sections listing prints and original sketches from the
respective artists from their Deckmaster artwork.For information on contacting an artist, check the Artist Contacts section at
the end of this list. If an address and/or phone number is given, you may
contact the artist directly. Otherwise, Wizards of the Coast has agreed to
forward to the artists inquiries regarding offers to purchase listed art. To
make an offer, send a letter addressed to the artist care of Wizards of the
Coast, P.O. Box 707, Renton, WA 98057-0707.All original artwork has an image size of 7" x 5-5/8".
Original/Revised
Aladdin's Lamp Mark Tedin Unknown
Aladdin's Ring Dan Frazier $280 @WG
Animate Dead Anson Maddocks $1,000
Basalt Monolith Jesper Myrfors $280 @WG
Bottle of Suleiman Jesper Myrfors $380 @WG
Braingeyser Mark Tedin @WG
Burrowing Mark Poole $530 @WG
Circle of Protection: Red Mark Tedin $455 @WG
Creature Bond Anson Maddocks $1,000
Dancing Scimitar Anson Maddocks $1,000
Death Ward Mark Poole $530 @WG
Deathgrip Anson Maddocks $1,000
Desert Twister Susan Van Camp Available
Dingus Egg Dan Frazier $230 @WG
Dragon Engine Anson Maddocks $1,000
Drudge Skeletons Sandra Everingham $600
Earthquake Dan Frazier $280 @WG
Evil Presence Sandra Everingham $400
Eye for an Eye Mark Poole $530 @WG
False Orders Anson Maddocks $800
Flying Carpet Mark Tedin Unknown
Forest (B) Christopher Rush $230 @WG
Giant Growth Sandra Everingham $400
Giant Spider Sandra Everingham $500
Green Ward Dan Frazier $230 @WG
Guardian Angel Anson Maddocks $1,000
Helm of Chatzuk Mark Tedin $455 @WG
Hypnotic Specter Doug Shuler Unknown
Ironroot Treefolk Jesper Myrfors $380 @WG
Ivory Cup Anson Maddocks $1,000
Jayemdae Tome Mark Tedin $455 @WG
Karma Richard Thomas $405 @WG
Lance Rob Alexander $500 @WG
Lifetap Anson Maddocks $1,000
Living Lands Jesper Myrfors $380 @WG
Living Wall Anson Maddocks $2,000
Llanowar Elves Anson Maddocks $900
Magnetic Mountain Susan Van Camp $90 (corner cracked)
Mana Vault Mark Tedin $455 @WG
Mijae Djinn Susan Van Camp $195
Mons's Goblin Raiders Jeff A. Menges $450 @WG
Nevinyrral's Disk Mark Tedin $420 @WG
Onulet Anson Maddocks $900
Orcish Artillery Anson Maddocks $1,000
Ornithopter Amy Weber Available
Plains (A) Jesper Myrfors $280 @WG
Plains (B) Jesper Myrfors $280 @WG
Plains (C) Jesper Myrfors $280 @WG
Power Sink Richard Thomas $380 @WG
Reconstruction Anson Maddocks $1,000
Red Elemental Blast Richard Thomas $380 @WG
Red Ward Dan Frazier $230 @WG
Reverse Polarity Justin Hampton $230 @WG
Sacrifice Dan Frazier $260 @WG
Samite Healer Tom Wanerstrand $700
Savannah Rob Alexander $500 @WG
Scathe Zombies Jesper Myrfors $280 @WG
Scavenging Ghoul Jeff A. Menges $450 @WG
Scrubland Jesper Myrfors $280 @WG
Sengir Vampire Anson Maddocks $1,200
Sinkhole Sandra Everingham $700
Siren's Call Anson Maddocks $800
Smoke Jesper Myrfors $280 @WG
Stone Rain Daniel Gelon $365 @WG
Terror Ron Spencer $850
Throne of Bone Anson Maddocks $1,500
Time Vault Mark Tedin Unknown
Tropical Island Jesper Myrfors $280 @WG
Tsunami Richard Thomas $380 @WG
Tunnel Dan Frazier $300 @WG
Two-Headed Giant of Foriys Anson Maddocks $1,000
Volcanic Island Brian Snoddy $380 @WG
Wall of Bone Anson Maddocks $1,200
Wall of Brambles Anson Maddocks $1,000
Wall of Ice Richard Thomas $380 @WG
Wall of Swords Mark Tedin $420 @WG
Wanderlust Cornelius Brudi $330 @WG
Water Elemental Jeff A. Menges $400
Web Rob Alexander $675 @WG
White Ward Dan Frazier $230 @WG
Arabian Nights
Abu Ja'far Ken Meyer, Jr.. $530 @WG
Aladdin's Lamp Mark Tedin Unknown
Aladdin's Ring Dan Frazier $280 @WG
Bottle of Suleiman Jesper Myrfors $380 @WG
Camel Sandra Everingham $400
City of Brass Mark Tedin Unknown
Cyclone Mark Tedin Unknown
Dancing Scimitar Anson Maddocks $1,000
Desert Jesper Myrfors $280 @WG
Desert Twister Susan Van Camp $495
Drop of Honey Anson Maddocks $500
Elephant Graveyard Rob Alexander $530 @WG
Erhnam Djinn Ken Meyer, Jr. $530 @WG
Eye for an Eye Mark Poole $530 @WG
Fishliver Oil Anson Maddocks $1,200
Flying Carpet Mark Tedin Unknown
Flying Men Christopher Rush $430 @WG
Giant Tortoise Kaja Foglio $200
Hasran Ogress Dan Frazier $280 @WG
JandorUs Ring Dan Frazier $280 @WG
Juzam Djinn Mark Tedin Unknown
Kird Ape Ken Meyer, Jr. $530 @WG
Magnetic Mountain Susan Van Camp $90 (corner cracked)
Metamorphosis Christopher Rush $430 @WG
Mijae Djinn Susan Van Camp $195
Sandals of Abdallah Dan Frazier $280 @WG
Serendib Djinn Anson Maddocks $1,200
Serendib Efreet Anson Maddocks $1,000
Shahrazad Kaja Foglio $600
Sindbad Julie Baroh $330 @WG
Singing Tree Rob Alexander $530 @WG
Stone-Throwing Devils Ken Meyer, Jr. $530 @WG
Antiquities
Argivian Archaeologist Amy Weber Available
Argothian Pixies Amy Weber Available
Artifact Blast Mark Poole $530 @WG
Ashnod's Altar Anson Maddocks $1,000
Ashnod's Battle Gear Mark Poole $580 @WG
Ashnod's Transmogrant Mark Tedin Unknown
Atog Jesper Myrfors $380 @WG
Bronze Tablet Tom Wanerstrand $500
Clay Statue Jesper Myrfors $380 @WG
Clockwork Avian Randy Asplund-Faith Available
Coral Helm Amy Weber Available
Damping Field Justin Hampton $280 @WG
Detonate Randy Asplund-Faith Available
Drafna's Restoration Amy Weber Available
Dragon Engine Anson Maddocks $1,000
Feldon's Cane Mark Tedin Unknown
Mishra's Factory (winter) Kaja & Phil Foglio $500
Onulet Anson Maddocks $1,000
Ornithopter Amy Weber Available
Powerleech Christopher Rush $530 @WG
Priest of Yawgmoth Mark Tedin Unknown
Reconstruction Anson Maddocks $1,000
Reverse Polarity Justin Hampton $230 @WG
Staff of Zegon Mark Poole $530 @WG
Strip Mine (A) Daniel Gelon $380 @WG
Strip Mine (All 4) Daniel Gelon $1260 @WG
Strip Mine (B) Daniel Gelon $380 @WG
Strip Mine (C) Daniel Gelon $380 @WG
Strip Mine (D) Daniel Gelon $380 @WG
Tawnos's Coffin Christopher Rush $430 @WG
Tawnos's Weaponry Dan Frazier Available
Tetravus Mark Tedin Unknown
Transmute Artifact Anson Maddocks $500
Urza's Mine (A) Anson Maddocks $1,000
Urza's Mine (B) Anson Maddocks $1,000
Urza's Mine (C) Anson Maddocks $1,000
Urza's Mine (D) Anson Maddocks $1,000
Urza's Power Plant Mark Tedin Unknown
UrzaUs Miter Randy Asplund-Faith Available
Wall of Spears Sandra Everingham $400
Weakstone Juston Hampton $230 @WG
Yotian Soldier Christopher Rush Unknown
Legends
Abomination Mark Tedin Unknown
Active Volcano Justin Hampton $225
Adun Oakenshield Jeff A. Menges $525
Aisling Leprechaun Quinton Hoover $730 @WG
Al-abar's Carpet Kaja Foglio $600
Alabaster Potion Harold Arthur McNeill $1,000
Angelic Voices Julie Baroh $350
Angus Mackenzie Bryon Wackwitz $800
Anti-Magic Aura Doug Shuler Unknown
Arboria Daniel Gelon Available
Avoid Fate Phil Foglio $300
Axelrod Gunnarson Scott Kirschner $400
Ayesha Tanaka Bryon Wackwitz $800
Azure Drake Dan Frazier Available
Barbary Apes Bryon Wackwitz $400
Barktooth Warbeard Andi Rusu Unknown
Bartel Runeaxe Andi Rusu Unknown
Beasts of Bogardan Daniel Gelon Available
Blazing Effigy Susan Van Camp Available
Blue Mana Battery Amy Weber Available
Boomerang Brian Snoddy $530 @WG
Boris Devilboon Jesper Myrfors Unknown
The Brute Mark Poole $500
Carrion Ants Richard Thomas $300
Caverns of Despair Harold Arthur McNeill $1,000
Chain Lightning Sandra Everingham $400
Chains of Mephistopheles Heather Hudson $450
Cleanse Phil Foglio $500
Clergy of the Holy Nimbus Daniel Gelon Available
Cocoon Mark Tedin Unknown
Concordant Crossroads Amy Weber Available
Cosmic Horror Jesper Myrfors Unknown
Crevasse Rob Alexander $400
Crimson Manticore Daniel Gelon Available
Cyclopean Mummy Edward Beard Jr $400
Darkness Harold Arthur McNeill $1,000
Demonic Torment Anson Maddocks $1,200
Disharmony Bryon Wackwitz $600
Divine Intervention Amy Weber Available
Divine Offering Jeff A. Menges $425
Dream Coat Anthony Waters @WG
Dwarven Song Dan Frazier Available
Elder Spawn Jesper Myrfors Unknown
Equinox Susan Van Camp Available
Eternal Warrior Anson Maddocks $1,200
Eureka Kaja Foglio $500
Evil Eye of Orms-By-Gore Jesper Myrfors Unknown
Feint Brian Snoddy $630 @WG
Field of Dreams Kaja Foglio $700
Fire Sprites Julie Baroh $300
Flash Counter Harold Arthur McNeill $1,000
Flash Flood Tom Wanerstrand $300
Force Spike Bryon Wackwitz $200
Fortified Area Randy Asplund-Faith Available
Frost Giant Daniel Gelon Available
Gabriel Angelfire Daniel Gelon Available
Gauntlets of Chaos Dan Frazier Available
Ghosts of the Damned Edward Beard Jr $350
Giant Slug Anson Maddocks $1,200
Giant Strength Justin Hampton $300
Glyph of Delusion Susan Van Camp Available
Glyph of Destruction Susan Van Camp Available
Glyph of Doom Susan Van Camp Available
Glyph of Life Susan Van Camp Available
Glyph of Reincarnation Susan Van Camp Available
Gosta Dirk Richard Thomas $300
Gravity Sphere Brian Snoddy $530 @WG
Great Defender Mark Poole $400
Great Wall Sandra Everingham $400
Hammerheim Bryon Wackwitz $400
Hell's Caretaker Sandra Everingham $400
Holy Day Justin Hampton $300
Horror of Horrors Mark Tedin Unknown
Hunding Gjornersen Richard Thomas $300
Immolation Scott Kirschner $250
In the Eye of Chaos Brian Snoddy $730 @WG
Indestructible Aura Mark Poole $600
Infernal Medusa Anson Maddocks $1,200
Invoke Prejudice Harold Arthur McNeill $1,000
Jacques le Vert Andi Rusu Unknown
Jerrard of the Closed Fist Andi Rusu Unknown
Johan Mark Tedin Unknown
Juxtapose Justin Hampton $300
Keepers of the Faith Daniel Gelon Available
Kei Takahashi Scott Kirschner $300
Killer Bees Phil Foglio $400
Kismet Kaja Foglio $600
Kobold Drill Sergeant Julie Baroh $350
Kobold Taskmaster Randy Asplund-Faith Available
Kobolds of Kher Keep Julie Baroh $350
Kry Shield Richard Thomas $300
Lady Evangela Mark Poole $600
Land Equilibrium Jesper Myrfors Unknown
Land Tax Brian Snoddy $430 @WG
Land's Edge Brian Snoddy $530 @WG
Life Chisel Anthony Waters @WG
Lifeblood Mark Tedin Unknown
Living Plane Bryon Wackwitz $500
Lord Magnus, Knight Templar Mark Tedin Unknown
Lost Soul Randy Asplund-Faith Available
Mana Drain Mark Tedin Unknown
Mana Matrix Mark Tedin Unknown
Master of the Hunt Jeff A. Menges $600
Moat Jeff A. Menges $500
Mold Demon Jesper Myrfors @WG
Mountain Stronghold Tom Wanerstrand $500
Mountain Yeti Dan Frazier Available
Nether Void Harold Arthur McNeill $1,000
Nova Pentacle Richard Thomas $300
Osai Vultures Dan Frazier Available
Pavel Maliki Andi Rusu Unknown
Pendelhaven Bryon Wackwitz $400
Pit Scorpion Scott Kirschner $250
Primordial Ooze Sandra Everingham $600
Psionic Entity Justin Hampton $300
Psychic Purge Susan Van Camp Available
Pyrotechnics Anson Maddocks $500
Quagmire Dan Frazier Available
Rabid Wombat Kaja Foglio $500
Raging Bull Randy Asplund-Faith $500
Ramirez DePietro Phil Foglio $600
Rapid Fire Justin Hampton $300
Rasputin Dreamweaver Andi Rusu Unknown
Rebirth Mark Tedin Unknown
Red Mana Battery Mark Tedin Unknown
Reincarnation Edward Beard Jr $425
Relic Barrier Harold Arthur McNeill $1,000
Remove Enchantment Brian Snoddy $430 @WG
Reset Nicola Leonard $430 @WG
Revelation Kaja Foglio $700
Reverberation Justin Hampton $300
Sea KingUs Blessing Randy Asplund-Faith Available
Sentinel Randy Asplund-Faith Available
Serpent Generator Mark Tedin Unknown
Shimian Night Stalker Jesper Myrfors @WG
Sir Shandlar of Eberyn Andi Rusu Unknown
Spirit Link Kaja Foglio $1,000
Stangg Mark Poole $600
Subdue Brian Snoddy $430 @WG
Sylvan Library Harold Arthur McNeill $1,000
Sylvan Paradise Randy Asplund-Faith Available
Telekinesis Daniel Gelon Available
Tetsuo Umezawa Julie Baroh $400
Thunder Spirit Randy Asplund-Faith Available
Time Elemental Amy Weber Available
Tobias Andrion Andi Rusu Unknown
Tolaria Nicola Leonard $430 @WG
Tor Wauki Randy Asplund-Faith Available
Torsten Von Ursus Mark Poole $600
Touch of Darkness Pete Venters $630 @WG
Transmutation Susan Van Camp Available
Tundra Wolves Quinton Hoover $630 @WG
Typhoon Anson Maddocks $1,000
Underworld Dreams Julie Baroh $300
Urborg Bryon Wackwitz $400
Vaevictis Asmadi Andi Rusu Unknown
Vampire Bats Anson Maddocks $1,000
Wall of Dust Richard Thomas $300
Wall of Earth Richard Thomas $300
Wall of Heat Richard Thomas $300
Wall of Light Richard Thomas $300
Wall of Opposition Harold Arthur McNeill $1,000
Wall of Putrid Flesh Richard Thomas $300
Wall of Tombstones Dan Frazier Available
Wall of Vapor Richard Thomas $300
Wall of Wonder Richard Thomas $450
Whirling Dervish Susan Van Camp Available
White Mana Battery Anthony Waters? @WG
Winds of Change Justin Hampton $275
Wood Elemental Brian Snoddy $530 @WG
The Dark
Amnesia Mark Poole $200
Apprentice Wizard Dan Frazier Available
Ashes to Ashes Drew Tucker @WG
Ball Lightning Quinton Hoover $530 @WG
Banshee Jesper Myrfors Unknown
Blood of the Martyr Christopher Rush Unknown
Bog Imp Ron Spencer $650
Bog Rats Ron Spencer $400
Bone Flute Christopher Rush Unknown
Brainwash Pete Venters Unknown
Brothers of Fire Mark Tedin Unknown
Cave People Drew Tucker @WG
Cleansing Pete Venters Unknown
Coal Golem Christopher Rush Unknown
Curse Artifact Mark Tedin Unknown
Dance of Many Sandra Everingham $500
Dark Heart of the Wood Christopher Rush Unknown
Dark Sphere Mark Tedin Unknown
Diabolic Machine Anson Maddocks $1,200
The Drowned Quinton Hoover $730 @WG
Dust to Dust Drew Tucker Unknown
Eater of the Dead Jesper Myrfors Unknown
Electric Eel Anson Maddocks $1,000
Elves of Deep Shadow Jesper Myrfors bidding @WG
Erosion Pete Venters Unknown
Eternal Flame Mark Poole $500
Exorcist Drew Tucker @WG
The Fallen Jesper Myrfors @WG
Fellwar's Stone Quinton Hoover @WG
Festival Mark Poole $500
Fire and Brimstone Jeff A. Menges $600
Fire Drake Christopher Rush Unknown
Flood Dennis Detwiller $250
Fountain of Youth Daniel Gelon Available
Frankenstein's Monster Anson Maddocks $1,000
Ghost Ship Tom Wanerstrand $500
Goblin Caves Drew Tucker @WG
Goblin Digging Team Ron Spencer $250
Goblin Hero Mark Tedin Unknown
Goblin Rock Sled Dennis Detwiller $500
Goblin Shrine Ron Spencer $500
Goblin Wizard Daniel Gelon Available
Goblins of the Flarg Tom Wanerstrand $500
Grave Robbers Quinton Hoover $730 @WG
Inferno Randy Asplund-Faith Available
Inquisition Anson Maddocks $900
Knights of Thorn Christopher Rush Unknown
Leviathan Mark Tedin Unknown
Living Armor Anson Maddocks $1,000
Lurker Anson Maddocks $1,000
Mana Clash Mark Tedin Unknown
Marsh Viper Ron Spencer $350
Martyr's Cry Jeff A. Menges $475
Maze of Ith Anson Maddocks $1,000
Merfolk Assassin Dennis Detwiller $800
Mind Bomb Mark Tedin Unknown
Miracle Worker Ron Spencer $300
Murk Dwellers Drew Tucker @WG
Nameless Race Quinton Hoover $730 @WG
Niall Silvain Christopher Rush Unknown
Orc General Jesper Myrfors @WG
Pikemen Dennis Detwiller $500
Preacher Quinton Hoover $630 @WG
Psychic Allergy Mark Tedin Unknown
Riptide Randy Asplund-Faith Available
Runesword Christopher Rush Unknown
Safe Haven Christopher Rush Unknown
Savaen Elves Ron Spencer $300
Scarecrow Anson Maddocks $1,000
Scarwood Bandits Mark Poole $500
Scarwood Goblins Ron Spencer $650
Scarwood Hag Anson Maddocks $1,000
Scavenger Folk Dennis Detwiller $300
Season of the Witch Jesper Myrfors @WG
Sisters of the Flame Jesper Myrfors Unknown
Skull of Orm Tom Wanerstrand $500
SorrowUs Path Randy Asplund-Faith Available
Spitting Slug Anson Maddocks $1,000
Squire Dennis Detwiller $500
Stone Calendar Amy Weber Unknown
Sunken City Jesper Myrfors @WG
Tangle Kelp Rob Alexander $500
Tivadar's Crusade Dennis Detwiller $700
Tormod's Crypt Christopher Rush Unknown
Tower of Coireall Dan Frazier Available
Uncle Istvan Daniel Gelon Available
Venom Tom Wanerstrand $500
Wand of Ith Quinton Hoover $730 @WG
Water Wurm Ron Spencer $250
Witch Hunter Jesper Myrfors @WG
Word of Binding Ron Spencer $300
Worms of the Earth Anson Maddocks $1,000
Wormwood Treefolk Jesper Myrfors Unknown
Fallen Empires
Aeolipile Heather Hudson $525
Armor Thrull Jeff A. Menges $550
Armor Thrull Pete Venters Unknown
Armor Thrull Ron Spencer $350
Balm of Restoration Margaret Organ-Keen Unknown
Basal Thrull Christopher Rush Unknown
Basal Thrull Kaja Foglio $400
Basal Thrull Phil Foglio $500
Basal Thrull Richard Kane-Ferguson Unknown
Bottomless Vault Pat Morrissey $500
Brassclaw Orcs Dan Frazier Unknown
Brassclaw Orcs Heather Hudson $600
Brassclaw Orcs Rob Alexander Unknown
Brassclaw Orcs Rob Alexander Unknown
Breeding Pit Anson Maddocks Unknown
Combat Medic Anson Maddocks Unknown
Combat Medic Edward Beard, Jr. Unknown
Combat Medic Liz Danforth Unknown
Combat Medic Susan Van Camp Unknown
Conch Horn Phil Foglio $600
Deep Spawn Mark Tedin Unknown
DelifUs Cone Mark Tedin Unknown
DelifUs Cube Mark Tedin Unknown
Derelor Anson Maddocks Unknown
Draconian Cylix Edward Beard, Jr. Unknown
Dwarven Armorer Bryon Wackwitz Unknown
Dwarven Catapult Jeff A. Menges $600
Dwarven Hold Pat Morrissey $500
Dwarven Ruins Mark Poole Unknown
Dwarven Soldier Douglas Shuler Unknown
Dwarven Soldier Randy Asplund-Faith Available
Dwarven Soldier Rob Alexander Unknown
Ebon Praetor Randy Asplund-Faith Available
Ebon Stronghold Mark Poole Unknown
Elven Fortress Mark Poole Unknown
Elven Fortress Pete Venters Unknown
Elven Fortress Randy Asplund-Faith Available
Elven Fortress Tom Wanerstrand $500
Elven Lyre Kaja Foglio $700
Elvish Farmer Richard Kane-Ferguson Unknown
Elvish Hunter Anson Maddocks Unknown
Elvish Hunter Mark Poole Unknown
Elvish Hunter Susan Van Camp Unknown
Elvish Scout Christopher Rush Unknown
Elvish Scout Mark Poole Unknown
Elvish Scout Pete Venters Unknown
FarrelUs Mantle Anthony Waters Unknown
FarrelUs Zealot Edward Beard, Jr. Unknown
FarrelUs Zealot Richard Kane-Ferguson Unknown
Farrelite Priest Phil Foglio $700
Feral Thallid Rob Alexander Unknown
Fungal Bloom Daniel Gelon Unknown
Goblin Chirurgeon Dan Frazier Unknown
Goblin Chirurgeon Daniel Gelon Unknown
Goblin Chirurgeon Phil Foglio $600
Goblin Flotilla Tom Wanerstrand $400
Goblin Grenade Christopher Rush Unknown
Goblin Grenade Dan Frazier Unknown
Goblin Grenade Ron Spencer $1,000
Goblin Kites Anson Maddocks Unknown
Goblin War Drums Dan Frazier Unknown
Goblin War Drums Heather Hudson $575
Goblin War Drums Jeff A. Menges $650
Goblin War Drums Richard Kane-Ferguson Unknown
Goblin Warrens Dan Frazier Unknown
Havenwood Battleground Mark Poole Unknown
Heroism Mark Poole Unknown
High Tide Amy Weber Unknown
High Tide Anson Maddocks Unknown
Hollow Trees Pat Morrissey $500
Homarid Bryon Wackwitz Unknown
Homarid Heather Hudson $700
Homarid Mark Tedin Unknown
Homarid Quinton Hoover @WG
Homarid Shaman Amy Weber Unknown
Homarid Spawning Bed Douglas Shuler Unknown
Homarid Warrior Daniel Gelon Unknown
Homarid Warrior Douglas Shuler Unknown
Homarid Warrior Randy Asplund-Faith Available
Hymn to Tourach Liz Danforth Unknown
Hymn to Tourach Quinton Hoover @WG
Hymn to Tourach Scott Kirschner Unknown
Hymn to Tourach Susan Van Camp Unknown
Icatian Infantry Christopher Rush Unknown
Icatian Infantry Douglas Shuler Unknown
Icatian Infantry Drew Tucker @WG
Icatian Infantry Edward Beard, Jr. Unknown
Icatian Javelineers Edward Beard, Jr. Unknown
Icatian Javelineers Scott Kirschner Unknown
Icatian Lieutenant Pete Venters Unknown
Icatian Moneychanger Drew Tucker @WG
Icatian Moneychanger Edward Beard, Jr. Unknown
Icatian Phalanx Kaja Foglio $500
Icatian Priest Drew Tucker @WG
Icatian Scout Douglas Shuler Unknown
Icatian Scout Phil Foglio $600
Icatian Scout Richard Kane-Ferguson Unknown
Icatian Scout Rob Alexander Unknown
Icatian Skirmishes Heather Hudson $575
Icatian Store Pat Morrissey $500
Icatian Town Tom Wanerstrand $500
Implements of Sacrifice Margaret Organ-Keen Unknown
Initiates of the Ebon Hand Heather Hudson $575
Initiates of the Ebon Hand Liz Danforth Unknown
Intiates of the Ebon Hand Kaja Foglio $500
Merseine Drew Tucker @WG
Merseine Heather Hudson $700
Merseine Margaret Organ-Keen @WG
Merseine Pete Venters Unknown
Mindstab Thrull Heather Hudson $600
Mindstab Thrull Mark Tedin Unknown
Mindstab Thrull Richard Kane-Ferguson Unknown
Necrite Christopher Rush Unknown
Necrite Drew Tucker @WG
Necrite Ron Spencer $900
Night Soil Heather Hudson $500
Night Soil Sandra Everingham $400
Orcish Captain Mark Tedin Unknown
Orcish Spy Daniel Gelon Unknown
Orcish Spy Pete Venters Unknown
Orcish Spy Susan Van Camp Unknown
Orcish Veteran Dan Frazier Unknown
Orcish Veteran Douglas Shuler Unknown
Orcish Veteran Quinton Hoover @WG
Order of Leitbur Bryon Wackwitz Unknown
Order of Leitbur Bryon Wackwitz Unknown
Order of Leitbur Randy Asplund-Faith Available
Order of the Ebon Hand Christopher Rush Unknown
Order of the Ebon Hand Ron Spencer $900
Orgg Daniel Gelon Unknown
Raiding Party Quinton Hoover @WG
Ring of Renewal Douglas Shuler Unknown
River Merfolk Douglas Shuler Unknown
Ruins of Trokair Mark Poole Unknown
Sand Silos Pat Morrissey $500
Seasinger Amy Weber Unknown
Soul Exchange Anthony Waters Unknown
Spirit Shield Scott Kirschner Unknown
Spore Cloud Amy Weber Unknown
Spore Cloud Jesper Myrfors Unknown
Spore Cloud Susan Van Camp Unknown
Spore Flower Margaret Organ-Keen @WG
Svyelunite Priest Ron Spencer $750
Svyelunite Temple Mark Poole Unknown
Thallid Daniel Gelon Unknown
Thallid Devourer Ron Spencer $750
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Thallid Ron Spencer $750
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14 hours ago, Bronty said:
interesting, surprising, but still.
Half the blue cards in EVERY set are based on it. Versions of it with a twist.
But what you're saying is still quite a surprise to me
At some point it was decided the unconditional counters were too powerful at 2 mana. Now "Cancel" is the norm at colorless + blue + blue to cast. They sometimes print 1 or 2 mana counters that are more conditional, like counter target creature spell or non-creature spell etc. Sometimes the 3 mana spells have a small upside, like scry 1, or exile the card being countered. I do think Counterspell will be reprinted in a standard legal set again some day though, so there is hope.
Also:
Arcades Sabboth auction has begun. $22K already (reserve not met?)
https://www.facebook.com/groups/mtgartmarket/permalink/2181850858711788/
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12 minutes ago, Bronty said:
All the early pieces will do well, but I feel like the original counterspell art is one that will become more and more valuable over time. That card will always, always be relevant and always get included in modern sets. Its one of the very few cards that's never going to go away, unlike almost everything else. It was relevant then, now, and will still be relevant 25 years from now if people are still playing the game. There are other examples too, but its a permanently relevant card and it basically symbolizes all of blue.
It actually hasn't been reprinted in a standard legal set since 7th edition (2001). Lightning Bolt has been reprinted in standard multiple times since then. It's not even legal in the Modern format, which is 8th Edition/Mirrodin forward.
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13 minutes ago, Bronty said:
When you say new blood in the game, do you mean new blood collecting art, or getting into mtg?
I get the sense that higher public prices on the mtg art are legitimizing the value in the minds on some that were on the sidelines.
I.e. when Dan Chang posts about selling wrath of god privately for 80k (which is the post that started this thread) well, that's alright and it gets attention, but a far lesser card like arcbound getting 45 on a heated public auction.... now you're cooking. Plus all the hundreds of other public facebook sales happening. A lot of people are chicken to jump in when prices are lower and the material illiquid. And now that they see it moving around and becoming more liquid, even though its at higher prices... they jump in. Bit of herd mentality there too.
Both are probably true, but only new art collectors matter in this context.
Wrath of God will and should sell for higher than Ravager, but I don't actually think Ravager is the "far lesser card" anymore. Many many many more people will have played with Ravager at this point, and it's an ostensibly better card. 50 years from now Ravager might be worth more than Wrath. Unlikely since Wrath was in Alpha, but if it had first been printed in say Arabian Nights instead...I think it's close.
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On 6/8/2018 at 1:07 PM, Bronty said:
1. agree
2. agree.... but at lower levels, outliers can happen a little easier. I just attach zero importance to that sale. I suspect you do as well.
3. ah, that does help to know they are legal for regular play. thx.
2. I wouldn't say I attach zero importance, but I mostly agree. It definitely is an outlier. I feel like we are seeing a lot of new blood in the game, which may or may not have had anything to do with this particular sale.
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12 minutes ago, Bronty said:
Here's my takes:
- power nine art could be seven figures in time. Why not? If the game is still very popular in 25 or 35 years, I'd be surprised if it wasn't, especially the Lotus. Any of those power 9 pieces would already be six figures plus so its not that big a stretch if you factor in all that time.
- 2750 is a lot for charging badger, but raoul vitale is a name outside magic too. I don't see that one outlier translating to anything else except possibly similar vitale's. Your thoughts?
- Help me understand the unstable island business. I clearly don't know the game or what drives it half as well as you but I'm having trouble wrapping my head around why an island from a schlocky joke set outside the main game would be 20k. Okay, its very nicely rendered, but its just an island... and while basic lands are collectible, there will be more renderings for basic island with practically every set... and this one is not from an important set... I don't get it. Looks more like 10 to me than 20+ offhand, but I'm perfectly willing to concede that you may be right. Just having trouble understanding that; seems wildly overpriced to me.
Power 9 is definitely well over 6 figures currently...I would expect lotus to be $250K+...sky's the limit.
The artist on a magic cards matter, but not nearly as much as how good the card is. I can go buy a Vitale art for a card for $1K without issue. Some people just view that sale as a new benchmark for cards (it's not really, but FOMO is a thing).
The basic lands from Un-sets are legal in regular magic unlike all the other cards from those sets. Other than Beta basics, they are the most popular basics in the game. An Island card from a regular set is worth about a penny, but an Unstable Island is worth about $4 (and rising). They are very very popular, and John takes extra special time with them. They are also portrait vs. landscape aspect ratio, so there is novelty in that as well.
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12 hours ago, Bronty said:
that being said, the massive % increases in value are over. A piece isn't going to go from 50k today to 5m in 25 years, that's just not going to happen. Maybe 250k or even 500k happens if it all goes well, but the kind of gains someone like Paul enjoyed aren't going to be enjoyed by today's owners, nor should they. He made a way riskier bet in 1993 than anybody plunking down their chips today.
Oh I absolutely agree...we are actually on an upward trajectory right now, and who knows where the peak is, but it's not in the millions range, and other than a few pieces, it's not even in the $100K range. Magic art is a lot like Comic art, there is just a lot less of it (and a lot less collectors). You can buy comic pages for $100 still. Magic art the floor is $500, because it's so scarce. I predict 5 years from now the top pieces (like Ravager) will be in the $100K range, good playable card or great art on a card ~$10K, and the floor for cards with mediochre to bad art about $1K.
Anecdote time. A few weeks ago the art for a card named "Charging Badger" went up for auction. This is a bad magic card (1 mana 1/1 with trample). The art is nice, but not even really a fantasy piece...more like a nature piece. There is a small meme associated, so that might have contributed, but it sold for $2750. This was a major surprise to a lot of the community, and everyone with active sales threads immediately raised their prices. A rising tide lifts all boats as it were. https://www.facebook.com/groups/mtgartmarket/permalink/2159883600908514/
New one. Next week, a major basic land goes up for auction. Island from Unstable by John Avon (THE premier landscape artist in the game). I predict $20K easy, and I don't know where the limit is on this one. https://www.facebook.com/groups/mtgartmarket/permalink/2179288065634734/
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57 minutes ago, Bronty said:
Sure, but it would have seemed expensive then too, and it would have been a buy you made with the presumption that it was utterly illiquid and you were stuck with them for life. Pre internet days art would have been so much tougher to move if an emergency presented itself. So somebody like Paul that spent 20 or 30 thousand in 1993 or whatever buying all those great pieces from some brand new game that might not last... that took cajones back then. With 25 years of hindsight, sure it looks like the biggest no-brainer of all time but if you put most of back in that time and told us to come up with say 25k in 1993 dollars with 1993 incomes, for a bunch of great mtg art, none of us, or almost none of us, are doing it.
Same thing with comic art in the early 70s.
And 25 years from now people might be saying the same thing about the prices of today.
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11 hours ago, Bronty said:
Do you know who owns the Lotus these days?
No. There are people who know, and I might be able to find out if I did some digging, but I don't know personally.
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2 minutes ago, Bronty said:
agreed, but when you paid 500 bucks for them, you're not going to want to pay 50 grand when you already have many better examples. My opinion.
That's like saying you missed out on buying AF15 for $1K 25 years ago so you won't pay market value today. If you want it, you want it, and you'll pay the price if you want it enough. Or maybe someone beat him to the painting 25 years ago and he's been salty ever since. Who knows the motivations of a collector like that?
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13 minutes ago, Bronty said:
I can't see it. He paid nothing for those. He's had strong enough hands not to sell all those gems he bought, but he bought them for a penny on the dollar
The reason he's been able to hold on to that stuff is he has never HAD to sell for money reasons. He had to have money when he bought all that since he bought so many pieces in 1993. Even at ~$500 each he had a good amount of cash lying around. He still picks up pieces when something grabs him, so he's definitely not out of the game.
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9 minutes ago, Bronty said:
just ran across this, cool old video..
Peter sold all that stuff soon after that
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4 minutes ago, Bronty said:
hmmm thanks for sharing. will be fun to watch Arcades Sabboth. I'll guess more like 25-30 on that
So hard to predict. The highest guess anyone had for Ravager was $22K and it went more than double that. I wouldn't be surprised by $15K, and I wouldn't be surprised by $75K for Arcades. There's a guy that already owns 3 of the other Elder Dragons, so he might be a big player if he wants it.
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Exciting events recently in the Magic art world.
Arcbound Ravager, played in every format it has ever been legal in, just sold for over $45K - https://www.facebook.com/groups/mtgartmarket/permalink/2174106076152933/
Serra Angel from the newest set Dominaria by Donato Giancola (first time back to the game in forever, and a true Master) is being auctioned on his site (ends tomorrow 6/7) - http://www.donatoart.com/auction/index.html
Next week Arcades Sabbath, Elder Dragon, from the Legends set will be auctioned off on the same Facebook group as Arcbound Ravager. I expect this to fetch a similar price. Different whales for this one as it has never really seen play in any constructed format, and will be entirely nostalgia driven.
My collection has evolved over the last year. You can always see what I own here - http://www.comicartfans.com/galleryfavoritesroom.asp?gfav=8240
Near six figure MTG art sales
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A far larger, better drawn/painted, and higher power level card for less than a third of the price. Nostalgia is a hell of a drug.