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JesterSB

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  1. So......... a bunch of prelims . Really good prelims though. It will be interesting to see what they get but it shouldn't blow the doors off.

    Yeah, I'm guessing $3-5K for the alpha sketches, $5-8K for the portal forests. $3-5K for the other completed magic pieces. Wrath of God and Vesuvan Doppelgänger will go for more...maybe even $10K.

  2. I know literally nothing about MTG art collecting - this guy was a big deal I take it?

     

    I guess some things are the same everywhere, people don't want the market flooded, they're afraid of being diluted.

    He was one of 25 artists who started the game, and died quite a few years ago.

  3. MTG art game seems like it might be even more cutthroat than comic OA game? I mean, everybody wants to silently cut an inside deal all the while publicly decrying "breaking the collection up", right?

     

    There are very few people saying this, and most are excited to get a chance at a piece...there should be some available for every budget if there are sketches and such available. The published Magic pieces will be astronomical though ($2-3K floor probably).

  4. I am amazed you got a DiTerlizzi. I picked up his art book at Gen Con last year.

     

    If you have a couple grand lying around you can still get one: http://diterlizzi.com/home/magic-the-gathering-original-art-sale/

     

    what are your thoughts on counterfeit cards. I bought a pricey card for the first time in a long time, a mox emerald, and it was a very good fake. Its kind of disturbing to see how close they are getting.

     

    Tell a curious non-collector of the cards: How did you discover it was fake? Did you get your payment back?

    Like he said, the main way to tell is just feeling the card in your hand. Something just feels "off" with the fakes...whether it's the texture, thickness, stiffness, etc.

  5. First response to my MTG FB page post:

     

     

     

    "I don't think the prices on the new Walker lands will correlate with much of a value change on his other non-landscape pieces.

     

    I only say this because Kev landscapes are exceptionally rare. Everything else is more common due to the prolific nature of his contributions to Magic.

     

    So, having said that... To the right collector I'd guess these pieces are worth to upwards of $1250 (unless one is on a popular card that I'm not aware of). If I was selling, I think anything over $750-$850 each would make me happy.

     

    The one exception might be the book cover... I think that could garner more interest and go higher than the others."

     

     

     

    I posted 4 card artworks together with a wraparound book cover. The estimates on this reply are 2 to 3 times the estimates given to me by Mark.

     

    Interesting . . .

     

    The funny thing is the $500 piece that I mentioned didn't sell earlier this year was being sold by Mark...I wonder if it's colored his perception of Kev's valuations. For what it's worth, I think Ryan is pretty spot on with that valuation. I could see the book cover garner a lot of attention, and could go upwards of $2K with the right bidders in the room.

  6. Did I actually disclose what Mark's estimates were???

     

    I consulted MTG dealer Mark Aaronowitch over ball-park figures for Kev's work and the price-range he advised is now being way-surpassed by prices being realised on the aforementioned FB MTG Art Exchange.

     

     

    You didn't say exactly his estimates, but you explicitly stated it was much lower than the prices of the landscapes. Using my experience (limited as it may be), I can infer a range he would have given you. I could be way off, but it's not like you said nothing about his estimates.

     

    I have my opinions of the valuation just like everyone else. That's all they are though...opinions. The only way to know is auction, which I know you aren't ready to do, and may never be. That's OK! I like you Terry, and your taste in art too ;) No hard feelings.

  7. Well I think the main point is that the value depends on the card/subject matter more than the art or artist 2c

     

    Same is ultimately true in comics. (Ditko spidey v ditko charlton).

     

    Agree, but it seemed like Terry was thinking Mark's estimates were off. My contention is they probably aren't that far off, and the recent sales are not representative of most Kev Walker works.

  8. I think these specific arts, being basic lands, and the first of his being available in many many years, and the considerable quality of them, means they will realize MUCH higher prices than almost all of his other pieces. As an example, there is a reverse auction on the same page for "Rite of Passage" that is down to $825. This work is very representative of a Walker piece and much more in line with the valuation on his art in general. He has done the second most art for MtG, and closing in on #1 all time, and none of it is digital. There is a LOT of it out there. Subject matter/card quality will be the deciding factor in the valuation most of the time. I've seen a nice (IMO) piece not sell at $500 recently, and other than the basics, nothing over $2K.

     

    FYI, I am not saying any this because I was "Street Savy" from you, but my honest opinion.

     

    The FB MTG Art Exchange page continues to be a bit of an eye opener for me, especially with the auctioning-off of recent Kev Walker originals having a starting point of $2,000 (that quickly escalate in price).

     

    In recent times I've had enquiries about Kev Walk MTG originals that I own (that I wasn't looking to sell). My response to such enquiries was usually along the lines of, "NFS, but I'll listen if you have a tempting offer to make" (which always killed-off the line of enquiry stone cold dead in the water).

     

    I consulted MTG dealer Mark Aaronowitch over ball-park figures for Kev's work and the price-range he advised is now being way-surpassed by prices being realised on the aforementioned FB MTG Art Exchange.

     

    If or when the time comes for me to release any MTG originals, the FB page seems to be the best vehicle to either consult (for private sales purposes), or to be used as a sales venue.

     

     

     

  9. It was for an even called the Invitational, not for World Champs. They no longer do those unfortunately, but the players were typically offered to buy the art from the artist if they wanted it. I know Chris Pikula turned it down then years later regretted it and was lucky enough to be able to track his down.

  10. Yeah I'm not thinking about sol ring ... I hear you there.. talking stuff like mox opal.

    That card is only about 6 years old though, and the original art would likely sell for as much or more as well I think.

     

    I get what you're saying - that neither version is old, so that the premium for the original version should be less, and I can buy that, but to me the original version of the card should almost always carry a way higher price tag. IMO anyways.

     

    In general I think you are right. There will always be exceptions though.

  11. Yeah I'm not thinking about sol ring ... I hear you there.. talking stuff like mox opal.

    That card is only about 6 years old though, and the original art would likely sell for as much or more as well I think. Anything after 8th edition (2003 timeframe), is "modern", and doesn't carry the same cache to me since things definitely became more homogenized art-wise around then. Certainly a lot less nostalgic in general.

  12. Sure. I would add:

     

    A) comics aren't that different - see Herb Trimpe and hulk 181 page

    B) less exciting stuff still gets good amounts

     

    On a different note I'm surprised new art for old cards get as much interest as they do. I'd probably be interested in only the first/original illo, most of the time

     

    I'd also be much more interested in the original printings, but so would most everyone else. The price for the original Sol Ring art would probably be worth $50K+. I think the new swords are much nicer than the originals though, and the price would show it I think.

  13. You have to understand these are some of the best/well known cards in the game. The art is nice, but with magic art, 90% of the price is the power level of the card. Mana crypt is a "broken" card that's so powerful it's restricted to one of in one format and banned most everywhere else. That's why it gets an $8K bid immediately, not because of the art.