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Currently there are less copies of 656 in the census compared to each 1:10 variant and regular of 655. However, 655 sold copies sell for more.

Half right, asm 299 1st appearance in cameo Hulk 180 1st appearance in cameo. 655 is Daimen 1st appearance in cameo. Can't say cameo alone. Yeah 657 is key book. 657 is something I can see in a movie.

I said this earlier in this thread. Plus 657 is the 1st time Daimen wears the Robin outfit.

655,656,657 and 666

was the 316 an old label?

only 6 out of 572 ASM 300 came back 9.8 in this signing so far.

It does not. In House private signing and signature series grading are two different prices. Found it

Since In house signing includes the Artist fee, the credit can not be applied. I can;t find it on the website. I can see how this is confusing.

It was the right move. Cavill as Superman didn't sell enough tickets. Superman's Black Adam appearance was the test that failed the box office with the Rock. Game Over.

Market decides Value/Price that's it. If you can understand CGC grades a book based on condition and not how much market price someone paid for their raw book, why can't people understand people labeling an appearance based upon reading the book?

We are talking about if Market "prices/values" changes the type of appearance. There is no talk here about which is the definitive appearance.

We are talking about market vs labels and Batman 655-657.

Right, that's why you can't say cameo as a shortcut.

Your proof says exactly what a cameo is "Guest appearance by famous/character". It does not mention anything about "First appearance".

Finally. Thank You Hopefully the way you explained it. They will get it.

22 and 23 nothing on the either label. 24 gets the 1st appearance label. Thanks for pointing this out. I will ask CGC on fixing this.

That grey book in your reply is my qoute, That's not happened in the Hulk 180 and Hulk 181 story.

Agreed, I gave excamples where labels do change the value Iroman 7 and where the label does not Batman 655. You must have missed it,

That's exactly what I have been saying,

Again, name a book where the Value changed the appearance. None of you done that yet. I did not talk about supply and demand. You are misquoting me.

Right, You care about value. That's what I been saying. If you care about value, you should check the book because that initial high value of first appearance could be just a hand or leg.

I do not know what econonimics class you went to. I was taught market is how much an asset can be sold or bought. It does not determine the type of appearance. I am still waiting for that example where the value of book changed the type of appearance.

No that's not happens in comic collecting with graded books. You are making general statements without examples.

It does not. Reading the book does. Invincible Iron Man 7 the woman variant was labeled 1st appearance of Riri was the higher value book. Later changed to 1st appearance in Cameo while it was the higher book. Label changed Invincible Iron Man 9 to 1st full appearance of RIRI while Iron Man 7 was worth more. NOW the regular Invincible Iron Man 9 is worth more than the Invincible Iron Man 7 variant.

I did. 1. Green Lantern 25 was the higher value for three years and was labeled 1st appearance of Jessica Cruz. Later it was changed 1st appearance in Cameo. Justice League 31 is now labeled 1st full appearance of Jessica Cruz. Later the higher value changed Justice League 31. 2. Batman 655 labeled as 1st appearance in cameo Daiman Wayne. Batman 656 labeled 1st full appearance of Daimen Wayne. The higher value remains Batman #655. Give me a time where the higher Value made the grading companies or overstreet change 1st appearance in cameo to 1st appearance. Value and the type of appearance are independent.