Wayne-Tec

15 minutes ago, G.A.tor said:

I’ve owned 15 copies over the past 20 years I believe. Most at same time was 3

That’s amazing! Any scans or photos?

34 minutes ago, woowoo said:

Dont know where i got the pic but looks to be Action 20 than Superman 3 than whiz 1 all the same time line. Than 2 display on top saying just out with a pic of whiz 1. I say this is real

Those 3 books were on the newsstand at the same time.

These newsstand photos are phenomenal.

1 hour ago, LDarkseid1 said:

I’m sure Rick can show what is likely several copies he owns. @G.A.tor

I seem to remember a group shot of multiple Whiz #2’s. Although I may be mixing it up with another book.

How long before the 7.0 cracks $1,000,000?

3 hours ago, woowoo said:

 

 

This is incredible.

You're certain this is not altered? Do you know where it originates from?

3 hours ago, Courageous Cat said:

since we're on the topic, does anyone know why that book is so scarce/rare? Most early whiz are tough to come by, but #1/2 is ridiculously tough . Low print run? What gives

I don’t know what the print-run was (can any boardies chime in?) but it was the “Marvel Comics #1” of Fawcett, with no guarantees for success.

It became a Top-4 book early in the hobby’s history, but a lot of time passed between its 1939 newsstand debut and the point where comic books were preserved as a part of a new “hobby.”

The cover has no “No. 1” listed. All of the above contributed to it being a rarer book in the long run than Action #1, Tec #27 and Marvel #1.

Hey guys,

I am looking for scans/photos of as many copies of Whiz Comics #2 (#1) I can find.

If anyone is willing to share anything they have: raw, slabbed, new, old...that would be a big help.

Thanks! 

1 hour ago, sfcityduck said:

No offense, but I hate it when folks say a comic book is undervalued.  Like fine art and all sorts of other things for which folks get an emotional attachment, comics have NO intrinsic value.  They are only worth what someone is willing to pay.  The value is set by buyers.  So folks who sit in their armchairs, like me frankly, and say I'd pay $1M for that comic if I had the money, can't really opine on the actual value of a comic.  The value is based on what folks with money in their pockets are willing to pay.  Hence my comment about the one-person pool of buyers at $2M.

I think your statement is pretty fair.

I should clarify though. When I said that comic grails have been “undervalued”, my thinking is simply that other collectibles with far less nostalgic connection and far less modern day relevance, have sold for more IMO, because precedent has justified it.

Before the first $1M comic book sale, that lack of precedent prevented certain books from reaching heights later eclipsed after precedent. Remember when the Tec #27 CGC 8.0 set a world record? Would that have happened without the Action #1 CGC 8.0 sale cracking the barrier first?

No doubt, it’s all too easy to say “I’d spend $2M if I had it” without actually having the opportunity to do so. Fair point.

But I do feel a time will come in the not too distant future when people will gasp at a book of this stature selling for well under $2M...if that ends up being the case.

7 minutes ago, sfcityduck said:

The pool of people who have paid $2M for a comic book is one guy, and he's on the sidelines and already has a copy.

I’m not saying I think it will hit $2M+. But before the first $1M sale, few would have expected what followed.

Comic book grails have been wildly undervalued for a very long time.

Any chance this book hits $2,000,000?

Any revised predictions given how high the book is now with 14 days left?

On 10/24/2020 at 2:56 PM, Bunky Brian said:

This Tec 27, WILL "NOT" SELL FOR A MILLION,

I'm betting it gets 850/900 and stops, take that to the bank,

 

Bunk

Right within your estimate now at 855K.

13 minutes ago, sfcityduck said:

So we got an underbidder at $500K.  I'm guessing that it would be in the same league as the AS 8 9.4 and CA 1 9.4.  Not a million dollar book, but a closer to $1M than $500K. 

After all, it is the book for advanced collectors:  CM was arguably more popular than Superman.  The only reason he disappeared in the early 1950s, after CA and most of the DC/AA stable had been put to bed, was due to a lawsuit. He didn't lose popularity, he was executed (or was that CM Jr.?).  

He had the movie serials and high profile, and he's in a movie recently (and a 70s tv show, etc.).  I think his profile, historical import, and rarity make Whiz 2 a marque book on a level that AS 8 and CA 1 should not be.  CA and CM are both rip-offs of concepts made popular by others, but CM 1 was MUCH more successful in the GA.

Captain Marvel did outsell Superman, for a time.

You could argue that he’s one of only 4 superheroes to ever claim the spot as being the genre’s No. 1 character.

Superman

Captain Marvel

Batman

Spider-Man

Whiz #2 has, by far, the fewest copies on the CGC census amongst the Top-7 books in the hobby (just my opinion: Action #1, Tec #27, Marvel #1, Superman #1, Batman #1, Cap #1 and Whiz #1).

If we were comparing a Whiz #2 (#1) in 9.4 to the recent Marvel #1 and Cap #1 9.4 copies—I think it would be a discussion.

12 minutes ago, Mmehdy said:

1 million

It’s got to be one of the greatest books in our hobby.

This book sold for $281,001 back in 2012.

A 1.8 sold for $49,500 last year.

How much would the 9.0 go for in 2020?

Detective Comics #27 CGC 7.0 is now up to $735,000.

If anyone has any of the Whiz Comics #2 (#1) parts listed below, let me know. 

• Front Cover

• Back Cover

• Page 31

• Page 32

The more reasoning and depth to support a collectible “grail”, the more likely it is to withstand the test of time.

17 hours ago, Wayne-Tec said:

I know your post was 14 minutes ago, but it’s up to $645,000 now.

$660,000 now.

14 minutes ago, zen514 said:

TEC 27 7.0 at 630k   with 19 days to go...

 

Even if it stalls here... Ill be 63% right according to my math🤣

I know your post was 14 minutes ago, but it’s up to $645,000 now.

I don’t think 100K+ would be unreasonable at all for the Action #1 partial FC.

150K wouldn’t be out of bounds IMO.

On 10/26/2020 at 2:17 PM, Wayne-Tec said:

How much do you feel this cover would go for these days?

1 hour ago, Professor Chaos said:

Trick question.

Why?