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Did anyone else catch the Secret Service Chief saying "I thought Captain America was on the moon" at the 4 minute mark? I'm wondering if he'll show up in Secret Invasion & maybe they'll even introduce The Watcher in the MCU.

7 hours ago, Bosco685 said:

 

The way he presented it put a smile on my face. Definitely looking forward to seeing Russell Crowe in his role.

6 hours ago, TupennyConan said:

Another all-powerful white male patriarch. 

The internet will go insane. 

Should be fun. 

I might regret bringing this up, but should hating one group or another because the color of there skin be considered any less racist? It's unfortunate because instead of ending racism, we just reinforce it in a different way. I've seen generations of light skinned people turn darker from living in hotter countries with greater exposure to the sun & darker skinned people turn lighter from colder climates with less exposure to the sun. We're all humans & we would be better off working together than against each other for a change.

11 hours ago, Callaway29 said:

Personally, I don't see the need to reinvent the rings as bracelets...what's wrong with rings?

Maybe the fact that Marvel showed how to manipulate laser beams 50+ years ago like we do in present day technology touches a bit too close to reality. I didn't like how they changed the Vultures gear, when it was suppose to be anti gravity technology related to magnetism & frequency. There's a new TV show called Debris about an alien spaceship that shattered on earth & creates all kinds of electromagnetic anomalies like the Bermuda triangle & shows a lot of mystical things that people will think is great science fiction, but there's a lot or reality in the fiction we watch.

That 2nd trailer looks really interesting.

3 hours ago, Bosco685 said:

You are so right. This is getting a lot of attention on social media.

Disney and Sony Set Massive Movie Deal, Bringing ‘Spider-Man’ Films to Disney Plus

For a company that supposedly moved on from Spider-Man, Disney sure seems fired up over Spider-Man content. Maybe Disney is confused?!

I had a feeling this would happen, because working together is better than losing investors over theater disruptions due to the pandemic.

3 hours ago, @therealsilvermane said:

But we're getting a James Bond movie already with Black Widow. Marvel always changes up its "genres" within its Phases. Chi energy has become a kind of magic force of its own in the Marvel Comics recently, so exploring that aspect of Shang Chi's story as a martial arts fantasy, which many 70's kung fu films were anyway, will be a unique approach for the MCU despite some folks here saying it looks like more of the same.

The director, Destin Daniel Cretton, is a good filmmaker (see Just Mercy) so I'm expecting not only a decent action movie, but a strong character piece.

Chi is basically life force, similar to the force in Star Wars. I've seen monks manipulate their forces (yin/yang, positive/negative, male/female) to create electric charges, increase the density of their punches or weight & do mystical things like passing one solid object through another. It's called Prana in Sanskrit, which is what Nikola Tesla called electricity & he understood it well enough to patent so many futuristic inventions that have yet to reach the market due to corporate greed. We could have had electric cars 100 years ago.

3 hours ago, Bosco685 said:

These look more like Chakras from Sanskrit texts than rings. The rings should emit different density laser beams in accordance to the strength of energy passing through the gems embedded in them.

18 hours ago, @therealsilvermane said:

To be more specific then, it very much seems to me (taking clues from the trailer which I've watched multiple times since it got posted here) that Shang Chi is taking its story cues from Thor, not just the movie but the comics. Shang Chi very much appears to be a lost prince (or a prodigal son) living amongst the commoners and is now called back to the Homeland to take up some kind of mantle. But unlike Thor, it appears to be an evil mantle as his father/mentor, or whoever Tony Leung is playing, seems to have evil plans for him. I'm wondering if Shang Chi somehow has no memory of his heritage, like Thor or Carol Danvers, while he's living life as a valet in San Francisco.

21 hours ago, D84 said:

Correction: generic look and feel, now with martial arts.

Buddha was a sheltered prince that left His kingdom after seeing how the outside world was treated & decided to look for spiritual enlightenment to share with & save others. Every story has an origin, so nothing is truly unique. I guess nothing is worth watching.

1 hour ago, @therealsilvermane said:

So I'm getting a Lion King Simba/prodigal son type of story vibe where Shang Chi was allowed to live his own life outside royalty and lived that life as a s**thead living in San Francisco and now 10 years later must face who he really is for better or worse and becomes a super-hero.

Looks like the movie will open similar to Thor with a telling of an epic tale from China's past complete with hulk Chow Chows. With the exception of the epic Chinese sequence, the film footage so far looks very analog (as in lacking digital effects). I wonder if this trailer is more the "meet Shang Chi the person" trailer and we'll get the crazy special effects trailer next time.

That's a bit of a generic comparison. There are sequences of him being trained through his youth & it's not uncommon to want some independence from the heavy burden of family obligations as you get older. If you were brought up in a family of crime lords or heroes, anyone would likely want that breathing room when the appropriate moment presents itself. Lacking CGI isn't a deal breaker in my opinion either, otherwise most movies & shows wouldn't be worth any consideration. Seems like some people are too desensitized to go without it though.

56 minutes ago, Bosco685 said:

Guilty as charged!Should have known better.

20 minutes ago, D84 said:

From the poster to the trailer, Marvel is really becoming stale/generic. It's all blending together into more of the same.

How so? Can you point out other characters using martial arts within the MCU aside from Iron Fist?

I'm sure it will do well in China since they seem to have no infections & have kept their theaters open without many issues, but I'm not sure about other countries.

On 4/18/2021 at 10:17 AM, Bosco685 said:

Here we go... "You don't like what I like? Well then..."

 

Like the Joker states in 'The Dark Knight': "I wanted to see what you'd do. And you didn't disappoint..." 

You should add one saying THERE - MICROAGGRESSION! Then we could point our fingers all day long for everything that anyone does. Even with the best intentions, we can't please everyone unfortunately.

I felt Marvel was leaving a subtle hint about vaccinations with that Isaiah Bradley tetanus shot comment. Any less subtle, I bet there would be calls to boycott the show & throw it's writers under the bus, like they did with Letitia Wright on account of her comments.

Seems like the new Captain America (John Walker) will be leading the Nomad series with how this last episode ended. I'm thinking General Ross is a possibility, but since they said it would make us cry, maybe Falcon & Bucky with Steve Rogers on his death bed or a Black Panther cameo.

11 minutes ago, Bosco685 said:

And it won't change mine how odd a happenstance that was (and yes, I am being tongue-in-cheek about calling that 'happenstance'). It was very odd.

I accept that.

Just now, Bosco685 said:

Is it possible? Sure. Anyone can happen across a topic and throw in their opinion (relevant or otherwise).

Does someone speak in actualities how something will play out the way he stated it? That comes across not as an off-the-cuff opinion ("From experience studios will pick someone that can handle such attacks because they will just not care") but more factual (exaggerated here but along the lines of "I can tell you now who they cast will just not care"). There is a difference in the message delivered and interpreted from that approach.

Just as you pointed out that, he was defending his home country with the WHO post. It's entirely possible that he was just defending his profession & anyone's reasoning to play the character with the Wolverine post. I don't see it going further than that. Just because Daisy Ridley has an interest in playing Spider Woman, doesn't mean she has the part either, but she clearly made her intentions known at least. This isn't an attack on you & we are entitled to our own opinions. You can come bring up as many points as you want, it won't change my opinion unless there is news announced from Marvel to support your view.

1 minute ago, Bosco685 said:

Now you are just spinning in the wind to support a stance Antony Starr is just cruising around Twitter posting to every statement with no real relevance to the topic.

Now ignoring the fact Antony Starr is from New Zealand so he was embarrassed for his home country (  ), yes he is also a person. But posting about the WHO investigation versus a specific role is two different topics. Or are you saying you have a difficult time distinguishing between the two?

Meanwhile - yeah. Antony Starr is originally from New Zealand. Glad I could help share that fact with you. 

I already know he's from New Zealand, but you seem to think that he can't make a post related to a character, without having a stake in the character. Again, I think his point was about the financial relativity of anyone playing Wolverine. I'm just saying he's human & maybe it was related to any actor considering the part. You don't think that's a possibility?

11 minutes ago, @therealsilvermane said:

Kevin Feige has said on record what he wants in the MCU is a balance of super-heroes, as in race and gender. And that's what we're seeing play out right now. In a way, the trolls were right. That's not the problem though. The problem is having a problem with diversity.

I'm all for that, but sometimes they push these agendas to the extent that it turns people off. I guess that's something to say about their balancing act.

Just now, Bosco685 said:

The Boys was clearly mentioned in that post you shared. The show he actuals stars in. So yes, while he responds to a positive statement about the show he drops in what he wants to work on as well in the future. He was incredible in the Cinemax show 'Banshee' where he played an escaped criminal for four seasons. I bet he ha a lot of fun being the anti-hero.

Now with 'Wolverine' he happens across a post that doesn't even link to anything he is actively working and goes as far as to state whomever will be cast in the role will care less if people attack him - like he knows something? That was a very purposeful statement.

I felt the power of his statement was that actors care more about their paycheck than what fans think. We just have different opinions on what his post meant. I took it literally, while you're seeing it figuratively. Maybe both are true & maybe neither are, but he's posting a lot of tweets. I don't think that each one is related to a project. It would be pretty easy to overlook anything he says that way. Maybe it's a fun way for him to tease fans. I don't think his response to New Zealand not signing a petition about the legitimacy of the WHO investigation is about a pandemic show he has in the works. Do you? He's a person, not just an actor & I don't interpret every line the way you do.

12 minutes ago, Bosco685 said:

The pandemic brought out some very interesting studio-theater details never realized before now concerning contract language where a release of a film can only have a percentage of drive-in theater within range of walk-in theaters.

So it feels like major theater chains covered their bases in the old days concerning such venues. Though that doesn't mean studios couldn't brute-force their way around this if they had to survive.

Laws are always being changed to accommodate the times, so I could see it happening if theater chains have no better option.

17 minutes ago, Bosco685 said:

Sorry. If you are going to belittle a post so ignorantly (I'm surprised), I'll play along.

What you just posted DIRECTLY TIES to the show Antony Starr has gained brand new attention over. So of course he is going to react at times to The Boys post.

Wolverine - he has nothing to do with the X-Men or the character at all. So with Twitter having 192 million active users and someone randomly mentioning 'Wolverine' and Antony Starr shows up to comment on this out of the blue - yeah. That is going to gain attention.

Think more. Be a jerk less.

I haven't seen the show, but what does his fascination with serial killers have to do with The Boys? Do you think every actor that responds to a Wolverine post is a candidate? He's posting all kinds of things on twitter. Maybe if he said that he would like to play the character, I would see it being more than drivel. BTW, I wasn't trying to insult anyone.

3 minutes ago, drotto said:

The other thing about the MCU that people seem to ignore is Iron man was not expected to be the big break out character.  He was crass, rude, sexist, and an alcoholic.  He was everything that was not PC.  Captain was honorable, respectful, and wholesome.  I think CA was supposed to be the leader when the MCU was first mapped out, but Tony exploded in popularity, because of RDJ, and well it turns out the public likes to root for jerks sometimes. So the writers adjusted what they were doing based on the popularity of the characters. It just proves that sometimes you can not force who takes off, and sometimes you can not predict it.  Attempting to force CM as the main character of the MCU is not the way to make her popular.  You need to give the public good stories, and good characters, and then watch what happens. Once you see what gets traction you then make adjustments. 

People tend to lean towards popular demand, to maintain demand. Sometimes these agendas work in their favor & others times it works against them.

3 minutes ago, Bosco685 said:

Well since we are going to get completely accurate, 'jus primae noctis' (a right consummating a marriage granted to someone other than the bridegroom by the law or custom of some cultures).

For anyone to assume it never occurred in history, they need to go back and read some Medieval books and the noble class dominating people as serfs in a Feudalist society. I didn't realize until reading about it later in life people were treated as part of land when it was sold to other nobles or traded off. Supposedly not as bad as a slave, but less than a free man. Ugly!

 

I was referring to the quote in the film, which was Prima Nocta. Yes, women have been treated as property at different intervals throughout history, which isn't much different than a slave, but with greater luxury afforded to them.

13 hours ago, Bosco685 said:

And the difference in pay scales and filming burden making it more enticing for actors.

Why More and More Movie Stars Are Heading to TV

 

TV has been gaining popularity for a while now. Unless they bring back drive through theaters, I'll probably stick to streaming.

13 hours ago, Bosco685 said:

Uhm. Okay.

Here you go.

52 minutes ago, drotto said:

I am not a fan of the current version of Carol, and as a long time comic reader going back at least 30 years, she was never a major player until about 6 years ago.  She was a fairly regular Avengers supporting cast member, granted, and she has been elevated more recently.  But again, coming from a comic standpoint, even after her elevation, she has not been able to sustain a solo book, and I think her series is on its 5th reboot, and about to be rebooted again.  Hold this up against characters like Iron Man, the X-Men, FF, Avengers, Thor, Captain America and many more, which have been published more or less continuously for 50 years, and she is not even close to as important from a sales perspective. That is a very thin history of comic success as compared to proven long term winners with very deep histories. You can't necessarily assign labels like misogamy to people not liking her character. People are allowed to like or not like the character. Even with the smaller sales of modern comics, her books numbers lag behind many other Marvel books, that is all the result of a vast conspiracy again CM and Brie Larson?  To me when I read Civil War 2, she came across as the villain of the story.

 

Her movie was fine, I rank it in the bottom third of MCU films.  That seems fairly consistent with many other fans.  For me, and I can only speak for myself, she was the least interesting character in her own movie. Moving forward that is a problem. Given these things, I do question if she is the right pick to lead the new MCU. I do think she is going to play a big role however.

 

I would argue that even Disney has seemed to pull back some as her being the new head of the MCU. CM2 has now morphed into much more of a team film, with Marvel heavily advertising other characters that will be in it.  Also it seems that they keep pushing projects like Dr. Strange 2, Anti-Man and Wasp, Guardians, Thor, and the streaming shows more heavily. There have also been some rumblings about how much of Larson's contract has been fulfilled at this time (it was rumored to be a 3 or 4 movie deal, but I could be wrong).  If that is true after CM2 she will have made the majority of her contracted appearances, and there has yet to be any large announcements about an extension.

It seems that the new agenda is to make women appear more masculine & men more feminine. I think women are already strong, but there is more to strength than physical muscles. Tony Stark has shown that with his brain power & I feel they portrayed that well with Doctor Strange, Shuri & in WandaVision as well. I really hope we don't see a buff Jane Foster in Thor 4, as that would cheaper her being worthy to wield Mjolnir in my opinion.

3 hours ago, Bosco685 said:

Let's remember that famous Tony Stark line

 

Iron Man rape jokes didn't set you off (MCU blinders were on then).

 

It's actually Prima Nocta & while it was a dumb move adding that line, it is part of history. They're making people aware of these things at any rate. There being truth to it wouldn't surprise me, as people hurting on others for their own amusement is nothing new. Just because it wasn't written into law, doesn't mean it didn't happen. Royalty has a history of being spoiled & getting what they want at the cost of others, including changing history books in their favor. What would the MCU history books look like if Ultron or Thanos beat the Avengers?