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Larry, are you reading this? Did the Phantom program qualify for 1:100 variants? Would a store variant of 3000 books get 30 1:100s based on their variant order?
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Recalledcomics.com is a wonderful resource that explains how to ballpark the print runs on variants. The Hughes would be about 2500 based on comparable math. (And yes, some smaller shops will have ordered less than 100 and not have gotten the variant, but for every one of those, it is a safe assumption that a medium to large shop will have ordered a few hundred copies of the main cover and received more than one copy of the variant to offset such. Factor in international sales, and, yes, 2500 is a fair and reasonable ballpark.)
No, there's no offsetting. Let's look at some hypothetical math/orders:
Store A: 50
Store B: 160
Store C: 40
Store D: 300
Store E: 1000
Store F: 250
Store G: 70
Store H: 140
Store I: 20
That should capture a reasonable profile of store sizes. Total copies: 2030. Total 1:100 covers based on orders: 17.
You can see how the 1:100 ratio disconnects due to the smaller orders, and, no, the larger orders are not getting 3 extra copies to offset that.
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So when that fellow comes on that notes 1st appearances in preview comics, he probably should get this same fair treatment we are now focused on? That is a good thing.
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He's been treated fairly. His point has been vigorously opposed without any ad hominem attacks, to my recall.
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Spider Gwen #1 254,074
It's 3000 minimum order for store/specialty variant covers, right? I can't recall what the final tally of store variants was...?
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Sg 34 was hard to find when it first came out....maybe doomed storyline completists want it.
Just found out is low print as well, but didnt really look into how many copies, at least the cover is cool.
A low print in terms of what? Its low printed compared to earlier in the series when the book was selling over 30k copies, but it had a significantly larger print run than the previous lows in the series.
Periodically you see books like this.
Last example I could give would be Batgirl 14 2010. Print run wasn't much different not a lot changed in the book, but it sells well and you wont find it much.
It used to happen with Marvel's X crossovers as well. Story collectors bid up the lower print run titles in the crossover.
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Good thing I did not have any takers on my 2012 Valiant relaunch variants at the fall shows last year.
You won't again this year.
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But hey, I've got no problem being in the minority opinion. I love virtually everything from the time Ellis took over Stormwatch that was published by Wildstorm until DC ****ed it all up. So I'm used to not being in the majority opinion on books.
That Ellis stuff was great. I think you'll be in the majority there.
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I still feel like this particular Valiant craze is going to end in the same way that the last one did. I hope that's not the case, but all of the 90's stuff was awful in my opinion. They were just bad comics.
Pre-Unity Valiants were NOT bad comics. No way, no how. Writing, artwork, universe-building...all excellent.
We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. They were not my bag at all. I thought they were derivative & poorly written junk with mediocre, though classic style, art & just pretty boring in general.
You'll be agreeing to disagree with lots of people who know the pre-Unity Valiant books.
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Valiant garnered attention in the first place due to the quality of the early books.
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Gushing review.....not sure I'd 100% agree he knocked the art out of the park
No, he definitely didn't 'knock it out of the park'. The art was scratchy and poorly distinguishable at times, and the flow of the storytelling in the prison beating scene was disjointed. I'd say the art was average.
Story was pretty good for a first issue. I'll definitely read the first arc at least.
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I'm thinking the series is somewhat more important than a typical mini in that it is Deadpool's 1st solo book. It might be worth buying a few...or a dozen.
Books that sat in junk bins for several years so there's tons of them with bad spine dents, but plenty that were stashed away as well
Blue labels:
9.8 = 354 copies
9.9 = 4 copies
10.0 = 1 copy
Wonder if the lone 10.0 will surface on ebay soon and what it would sell for
I once owned that #2 CGC 10.0
Submitted by myself and eventually sold for $200+ about 5+ years ago on eBay. Not the sale I was hoping for, but if I recall correctly, the buyer was a HG collector that gobbled up many 9.9 and 10.0 books back then spending some mad money along the way. So I'm not sure that this book will see the light of day any time soon but I could be wrong.
Was pastimperfekt the buyer?
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Does that affect eyesight?I think Divad is engaging in what shrinks call transference.You've seen his grading...?
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Am I the only one who hates the "young baby" covers? I thought they were cool when there were only a couple of them but now every new comic with a lot of variants have one. I love the Midtown Campbell variant but I don't know why Campbell put a "young baby" as part of it. He had a good theme going on in the cover. In fact, I would say I wish the entire bottom left hand corner had all of the baby and little heads gone and replaced with something else.
I've never liked the whole baby cover thing.
Obviously a lot of people do, however. Just isn't for me.
Not for me, either.
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Regarding Copycat and the Deadpool movie...
I have a feeling that Domino will be the female lead and not Copycat. It doesn't make sense for Fox to use Copycat when they already have Mystique featured prominently in their movies. Copycat basically has the same "powers" as Mystique and they are both blue skinned. Don't think they will confuse the audience like that. Just my
I'm inclined to agree.
FWIW, though, I hope it's Copycat. I'd like to see how the market sorts out all of the sorta/kinda appearances.
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Ok People ! Rant Time !
Putting Hard to find or Rare or even Scarce in your Ebay Auction is fine but then you put a pic of 20 copies laying on the floor is counter productive.
This does not give the illusion of Rare or Scarce. This makes the buyers think your full of PooPoo.
Stop the Madness !
Great Googly Moogly !
May the Force be with you.
If you think 20 or 100 copies of a book means anything, you don't have a firm grasp on what print run numbers actually mean.
It's the psychology of it.
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I can't make myself buy this book.
Wouldn't X-force 20 (vol. 1) be a better comic to get? XF 19 only has 1 panel of Copycat called Vanessa. Or is this the old mis-direction? Get forumites to buy XF 19 while we secretly buy 30 copies of XF 20?
Marvel says:
First Appearance
(in true form) X-Force #19 (1993);
What Marvel says, or a CGC label says, or Overstreet says, is not necessarily how the market sees it.
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That's enough to give Spider-Gwen a swelled head.
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Both Lady Killer #1 & 2 are HTF at this point
Both heading for 2nd printings already
Mini-series. Sell.
Think Helheim and The Black Beetle.
I liked both, especially Helheim but the backlash against it being a mini was brutal. It just so happens that Joelle Jones was the artist for Helheim and Lady Killer.
On another note, Ultimate Fallout and Civil War were minis and both are heating up right now. So the moral of the story is, buy minis that have a shot at being used for a movie.
Yeah, there are exceptions. Overall, 'out of sight, out of mind' is a good rule of thumb. If the mini is legendary, like DKR, great. If there's a first app., or movie tie-in, great. If not, be careful.
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Back on track . . .
More importantly, I think we're seeing an overall increase in average price per book.
The market is strong. 
eh, $5-10.
But there is demand for a Superman book which is hard to come by for Copper or newer.
Can someone translate this post for me?
Yeah: YOUR POST IS WRONG!
How's that?
Thanks for the reminder of why your sorry butt is on ignore. (thumbs u
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Back on track . . .
More importantly, I think we're seeing an overall increase in average price per book.
The market is strong. eh, $5-10.
But there is demand for a Superman book which is hard to come by for Copper or newer.
Can someone translate this post for me?
Yeah: YOUR POST IS WRONG!
How's that?
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Both Lady Killer #1 & 2 are HTF at this point
Both heading for 2nd printings already
Mini-series. Sell.
Think Helheim and The Black Beetle.
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That's how it works around here.
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No kidding.
Instead of talking about comics, it's more important to some people where and how they get talked about.
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Rom at one point was the center of the Marvel universe for a few months. Dire Wraiths were the scrouge of the MU and Rom was the exterminator.
Loved the Dire Wraith/Mutant issue with the X-men and the Brotherhood. A nice original idea back then. I believe his name was "Hybrid".
There were two 2-parters, ROM 17/18 and 31/32.
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Not to derail, but...
I have a fondness for Liefeld as well.
I freely admit it.
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I liked his NM stuff.
In the end, though, Rob was like a top prospect on your favorite sports team, who starts off hot. You think, wow, this guy is really good, he's gonna keep developing into the next big thing. Then, he doesn't, and you realize that early stuff was as good as it got.
Think Kevin Maas, circa 1990.
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No. Not 3. Fifteen percent. So, right there, you can trim the overall number down from the 1:100 ratio by 15%.
And, yes, I tried to skew the numbers to larger, to account for the hype. There are many #1s where smaller operations are probably only ordering 5-20 copies. I figured 20 was probably a rock bottom guess for this book, but I'll check with my LCS, who is in fact a smaller store volume wise.