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I received mine today from in-stock trades.  Only 50 there and free shipping.   I love omnibus books!  I am currently finishing up reading my Devils Reign Omnibus.  It's also a good read.

Thanks for the nice Omnibus that was shipped super fast!  Appreciate it!

Take one as per pm !  Thanks !

I put my vote in for Secret Wars 2.

Thanks for a nice comic that was shipped super fast and packed well !  

Thank you!

Prices seem to rebounding based on the last Heritage auction on many books.  Hope it continues!

Prices seem to rebounding on a lot of silver age books in the last Heritage Auction.

I saw this book and had to read it.  Very interesting story.

On 12/30/2023 at 5:35 AM, AbsoluteCarnage said:

Problem with CGC accepting MVS screw ups is it doesn't take into account the ppl that already scammed the system now trying to defraud cgc with books they torched themselves. People will definitely need a paper trail.

I bought my Hulk 181 in CGC 9.4 around 2009.  It is in a 2nd Generation holder and it looks great.  There is no paper trail other than the check for about $2,800 when I bought it.  I dont see this scandel hurting my book value due to a lack of any other documentation, but I guess you never know.

On 12/29/2023 at 9:17 AM, Mephisto said:

That’s where I am at. I haven’t bought comic books much in the last 15 years. I had been mostly buying art. After selling some art, buying a house, and still having a lot of art to occupy most of the wall space I was looking at adding some CGC comics of books I either had when I was younger or always wanted. Seeing how easy it is for the outer shells to be peeled apart and another well with a different comic slid in I think I’m just going to take a pass since I haven’t really been buying comics much at all for many years.

Around 20 years ago I thought it was kind of ridiculous that the interior wells at the time had the labels inside the top interior well plastic as the comic but the plastic was open at the top so you could just pluck out the labels. Had the labels been sealed along the top edge like the comic it would have made doing the old switcheroo on the old slabs (this may have been the OG labels I am recalling this scenario with) a lot harder. Now it appears it’s just as easy with the label not being housed in the same inner well as the comics. I can’t recall if there was ever a time the label was sealed on all sides of the same interior well plastic that comic was as it’s been so many years. Obviously the inner well is a bit more work to get things in and out of with its seal compared to the outer shell.

So in the 1st and 2nd Gen holders, the labels were at the top of the inner well, but the inner well was not sealed at the top? Interesting.  

On 12/28/2023 at 11:03 AM, BrashL said:

Good to see them finally respond, and not surprised as Mike's statement was definitely run by some lawyers before he posted. Liability has to be a huge concern right now. As others have stated, a few hundred books may be related to one individual but realistically the number probably can never be known due to the ease at which the slabs can be opened and switched out. I think we have to assume the worst. 

The changes to the case people have suggested are all good and something must be changed, but that still leaves the issue of all the books in older cases which would rightly be devalued against the new ones. I think a reasonable compromise is CGC should offer discounted reholdering for any slab with checks for tampering either in the case itself or in the chain of custody. If issues are found they can compensate the difference (in cash, not CGC bucks!) and if not the book will now have the correct market value. Slowly you'd clean up the supply and do right by customers. It's probably gonna cost them but there's no way around that at this point.

That would stink for some of us who have several hundred slabs and not be affordable to many.

On 12/22/2023 at 5:23 PM, VintageComics said:

The old wells were sealed on 4 sides. 2 vertical seals all the way from top to bottom, and two horizontal seals above and below the book.

The vertical sealings (along the longest part of the inner well) went all the way from the top to the bottom of the inner holder, and that seal was used to also partially seal the label to the inner wells.

The idea being, if you removed the label, a little paper was torn off by the seal showing it was tampered with. 

The problem was that it wasn't always effective and so part of the problem they tried to address with the Gen 3 design, was to eliminate label tampering as well as book tampering. 

Gotcha...thank you!

On 12/22/2023 at 4:41 PM, VintageComics said:

They stopped sealing the certification label inside the inner well when they changed to this newest outer case roughly circa early 2017?

These newest cases (I call them Gen 3) initially had the "creep engine" problem, but shortly after that problem, the solution was to use the older (previous Gen 2) style inner well structure, but they needed to cut the top off it off those older wells to fit inside the latest style outer holders. 

The newer style holders had no room in the design for the taller, older inner well with the label at the top, because the label already had a designated area within the newest outer holder. 

The label AND outer holder were redesigned for 2 specific reasons:

1) to both replace the top label sticker (which always used to come off over time and annoy people) so this is why the new CGC label folds over the top of the book and is visible from outside and

2) to prevent swapping labels out between books the way some of the older inner labels used to allow.

The entire design rested on the premise that the outer case was the final deterrent and that any tampering would be clearly evident. 

I am fairly certain that the inner well is roughly the same or similar design that has been used from the previous Gen 2 cases. 

In regards to your point 2, how could the labels be swapped if it was part of the inner well?  Wouldnt it need to be cut open?  I have never cracked a slab and have some from all generations.

On 12/22/2023 at 2:47 PM, sledgehammer said:

Someone already suggested an inner well that has the label sealed inside of it, yesterday. they need to figure this out.

Didn't the 2nd generation case have the label sealed at the top of the inner well?

I order omnibus books from them all the time   I was hoping some books at 60 percent off for black Friday.

On 11/5/2023 at 9:49 AM, Dave2739 said:

This is fun. Reprints 1-34 and the first annual.

I am an omnibus collector but will most likely pass on this one.  However, that cover brings back a lot of memories for what was my favorite time for comicbook reading.  I was in college at the time and started going to the local comicbook store every Friday for new books.  I read them all and loved the stories back then.  What a great time for comicbooks....the mid to late eighties!  Enjoy your new book!

On 10/30/2023 at 1:13 PM, Math Teacher said:

I remember the quarters lined up along the bottom of the screen when the first Space Invaders machine was installed in the Student Union, not unlike quarters lined up on the pinball machines. It seemed like it was in use 24 hours a day.

I remember the 80s when new arcade machines came out every weekend.  In South Florida, we had the largest arcade in the world in the mid 80s called Grand Prix Race O Rama.  It was literally a block long and would get in multiples of each machine.  I remember when Punchout came out and they probably had 10 of them.  When I would come home on breaks from college, me and my buddies would go to the Fort Lauderdale Strip and on the way home stop in Grand Priz at 1AM and play games.  Those were the days! I have owned nearly every video game system ever made but sold most of them a few years ago.  I am still a very avid gamer on Xbox, PS5 and Switch.  To me, games and comics always went hand in hand.

I was also surprised at what the ebay price was, same as for the 5.5 that sold like 2 weeks on ebay.  Thing is, the ebay price will make it to GPA while the comiclink price won't.  

On 8/28/2023 at 4:19 PM, Professor K said:

 

I use olive oil to remove the part of the sticker and sticky stuff that I cant get off with my fingernail. Little olive oil in the well, let it soak in for about 20 minutes, stuff comes right off with a little rubbing.

Then of course gotta get the olive oil off the case but that's easy. Do not use Goo Gone

Why not goo gone? I have used it with good results. 

I am going Saturday morning.

This is interesting I have wondered what the B is on my Amazing spiderman 9.  

I am sorry for your loss.

I will take it!  Thanks!

Thanks for three nice books that were packed well and arrived fast!