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On 6/14/2024 at 2:10 AM, sfcityduck said:
CGC said off-white, which is consistent with the pic, so does NOT look brittle to me.
Sorry I'm using the bad words, I was asking if the paper of the GA books is tears easily?
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Asking the people acoutumed to handle GA books, are the pages really brittle?
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On 6/13/2024 at 9:08 PM, sfcityduck said:
My guess is that if someone offered up the page in AS 7 where Superman first meets Batman in a story it would be worth $300 today on the open market:
Page collectors are going a little crazy and that is a key moment which predates the other Superman-Batman meetings in story continuity by years (but does not necessarily predate the cover appearances together, does it?).
I never seen the panel before... now you have show it I just want to pull the trigger, and as I said the seller accept for 300 now
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On 6/13/2024 at 9:31 PM, BLUECHIPCOLLECTIBLES said:
There was a time when complete books would cost as much as a used car but you could buy complete coverless keys from the golden age for the cost of a bike and loose but complete debut stories for the cost of a pair of sneakers.
My English is too bad to got it but it seems to be an interesting saying, could you explain it please?
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Honestly I asked what people tought about 400 but I never excepted to paid the whole price, seller was open to offer so I asked him. I can get it for 300 now, it's tempting but... idk
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On 6/13/2024 at 5:52 PM, Joseph Ragno said:
To each his own. You say you focus on the book (as do most comic collectors). Fine... but your book is COVERLESS. That's a big part of "the book." Some collectors, like me, like to focus on what's special about "the book". And with most all collectibles, you can actually see what's special about it. But what is special about the storyline of a comic or character, you usually can't see when it's slabbed. That's why I collect pages. That's what "does it" for me. I don't like to spend a lot of money on a collectible, and not be able to see the special part of it because it's buried inside the slab unseen. That page that I posted that "don't work" for you is my most prized collectible... the first public image of Batman, predating Detective 27. So, collect what you like. But I predict the page that "don't work" for you will soar in value with time.
Yes I don't work in the sense of that it's not a real meet but I don't say that it doesn't work in term of spec, this way you probably got the gold.
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On 6/13/2024 at 4:15 PM, Joseph Ragno said:
Well, it's "key" enough to be mentioned on the label. But you still don't see it on splash page 1. They appear together on almost the last page. Frankly, that's the only page I'd care to own of this issue. And although it is the first time they appear in the same story, it's not the first time they appear on the same page... this is...
But why are you focused on the first page? I buy the book not the page?
(And by evidence the slab will be cracked one minute after I got it if I got it
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Your page don't work! They re not meet... I just see superman in action and aside an announce for a bat book, batman isn't physically appear
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On 6/13/2024 at 1:53 PM, Point Five said:
The All-Star #7 is pricey for a coverless, and as Joseph Ragno rightly points out it's not a key. There's a reason it's priced as a Buy-It-Now... if the seller listed it as an auction, who knows, it might finish at $150 (minus another $30 in ebay fees). Hard to know.
Thanks.
However I'm surprised the first meeting between Supes and Bat isn't considered as a key
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On 6/13/2024 at 1:41 PM, Joseph Ragno said:
If there is something special about a splash page, then owning a slabbed coverless is definitely worth paying a premium for. I don't feel that's really the case with this example though. But for example, Detective Comics #58, first appearance of Penguin, the featured new character is not on the cover, but on page 1. I'd personally rather own a slabbed coverless of that issue than a low grade example. But then again, I'm a little tetched in the head that way
We re exactly same on this point and it's why I start to buy coverless, I'm just too worried by many defects on covers so for me coverless is the best way to don't have to carry about.
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On 6/12/2024 at 10:19 PM, Point Five said:
GPA says a coverless #7 sold for $350 in 2021, so yes it's a bit strong but I guess it's more or less in line with that.
I generally think paying an aggressive price for a coverless book is "unwise", as you will find a very small pool of buyers when it comes time to sell. Assuming $300-400 is the floor for pretty much any low-grade copy, personally I'd much rather have a copy with a decent cover that's missing a page or something.
I decided to start a coverless collection recently so it was not the question, will never accept a book with his cover who give me nothing but who have the story affected by a missing page it's a non sense for me...
The fact is that if it's too much but closer of the prices I could overpaid a bit considering that It's hard to find the bottom condition... I mean if I find a 0.5 with a cover even if deadly the bill will be over this ammount...
350 is more than what I tought... honestly in my mind it couldn't have been worth more than the half so maybe it isn't really bad.
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Feeling like paying a tip for the slab...
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This book would be fantastic to own, however 400$ Is probably really far of what it worth really, im right?
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A sad thing I noticed is that it seems almost every GA books are truely overpriced trough ebay... people are often asking the price of a 0.5 or even more... I probably still have to learn and analyze the sales before put the target on a big book
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On 6/12/2024 at 3:40 PM, shadroch said:
Has the information in those books aged well?
at least you sure that is not more books than in 2003... the contrary will be be astouding
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On 6/12/2024 at 3:17 PM, shadroch said:
That would mean that between a third and half of all GA DC books are slabbed. That's an absurd assumption. It might hold for super-key books like Action #1, but to think half the existing copies of Action #35 have been slabbed is wrong.
Think so, random issues are raw all around...
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Here they re speaking about a Gerber Guide, could be interesting to buy it, some of you have it?
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On 6/12/2024 at 2:20 PM, vheflin said:
Not sure if you want original print runs or surviving copies.
For surviving copy count, I have read estimates on these here boards of 2x-3x census total.
No I cannot trust it
to get an idea I took randomly the issues 5,6 and 8 of Green Lantern, they are all between 27 to 37 copies, so you would say that less than 100 copies of these books are still existing?!
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I'm really interested about this question, for sure some books have probably 10× more copy than some other and we cannot really get an idea of it... but do we have an idea of an average quantity per issue for DC stuff published between 39-45?
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i read the text below on a thread, it was exactly what i tought since i got this idea and its actually my only concernation
I was kind of thinking about how custom bound books relate to slabs earlier today. I wouldn't call them the slabs of yesterday but almost like the exact opposite of a slab. When you slab a book you make it unreadable to preserve it's condition. When you bind a book, you basically destroy it's collectibility in order to increase it's readability, typically by collecting it with other books.
"destroying the collectibity"
We have to admit that is enough right, the books as a floppy is the only way it hold value and be desired, so firstly it make it unresellable if a day you look to sell... and the second thing is that I feel a bit guilty because I have the feeling that in a way I'm destroying pieces of history... what is your opinion?
You encourage me or you want to throw me in the jail?
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On 6/10/2024 at 3:09 PM, topcat54 said:
How would you determin the value of a book if it's the only graded on the census?
The raw book sells for around $200.00 so what would a 9.8 cgc be put on the market for?
Thanks in advance
Maybe you could let us know which book is it, because there s many details to consider... I mean you said that the book is sold for an average price of 200 but you don't say which condition we got for 200$ so I guess it's for an high condition book, so it's probably a modern book, now is it a popular book who have plenty of graded copies or a weird indy book... ?? And we could still ask many more questions... thats Interesting, but I think to go further we need to know which book it is.
Except if you need to keep the secret
to get an idea I took randomly the issues 5,6 and 8 of Green Lantern, they are all between 27 to 37 copies, so you would say that less than 100 copies of these books are still existing?! 
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