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Or even better than an auction house- consign them with a reputable dealer like Highgrade Comics
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Looks more like the house "Monster House" animation film to me.
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On 10/9/2022 at 2:28 AM, Cat-Man_America said:
My best guess for covers would be Weird Science-Fantasy #29 ...which would've been a Famous Funnies cover, but in the midst of the CCA transition he revised it for Bill Gaines who was willing to fight for it's publication as the final WSF issue without the CCA stamp. At least that's the story as I understand it. The next issue of the series with continued numbering was retitled Incredible Science Fiction with toned down covers, CCA approved stories and bore the CCA stamp.
Definitely Weird Science-Fantasy 29. Simply amazing cover! interestingly, Frazetta draws the cover to the last issue of WSF and Wood does the cover for the final issue of Incredible Science Fiction - one of his greatest Sci-Fi covers.
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On 10/9/2022 at 12:19 PM, Robot Man said:
Yeah, I too remember the days when people were pretty "close to the vest" about undervalued comics. To some degree, I still am. There are several books I feel very important and undervalued that I buy every time I can and hoard. Like giving up sources. Somethings you just keep to your self.
I'm going to stray a bit on this one. Take it away from the "Men in Tights" genre.
This is a book that is no secret. Nor is it inexpensive especially in grade. I consider it to be one of the more important books in comics. This was the one that even slick talking Bill Gaines could not defend. It was the straw that broke the camel's back and changed comic book publishing forever. I have bought several copies and never sold one. I remember when Russ Cochran's file copy list came out, I called as soon as I saw it. But sadly, I was told it sold just an hour before I called.
As well known and expensive that it is, I still feel it's growth potential is near limitless.
I would also put MAD #1 in as a runner up...
I love your picks but EC Comics aren’t Golden Age.
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On 10/9/2022 at 1:53 PM, BLUECHIPCOLLECTIBLES said:
Don't forget Famous Funnies 27, the first ever "True Crime" comic, thought it was a one-off. OOPS. I see the post ahead of me already said this
Thanks but FF 27 is an anthology that had a partial crime cover and crime story in it. Buck Rogers also appeared in FF before Planet Comics 1 and there were horror stories in Yellowjacket Comics #7 (first appearance of the Ancient Witch horror host) in 1946 - before Eerie 1 (1947) and Adventures into the Unknown 1 (1948) (not counting the Classic Comics adaptations of classic horror stories like Shelly’s Frankenstein). Crime Does Not Pay 22 is the first comic devoted exclusively to the crime genre and its impact resulted in an era of crime comics published by numerous publishers. It’s not just about what’s published but also what impact it had on the comics that followed. Don’t take my word for it, just look at all the crime books that came out with the goal to achieve the success that Gleason did.
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Is there a more undervalued comic book than Crime Does Not Pay 22 (1943)? This book started what I call the Third Era in the History of the 20th Century American Comic Book (the First era being the Humor Comics that started with Funnies on Parade in 1933 followed by the Second era coinciding with the introduction of Superman and the Superhero Age with Action Comics 1 in 1938). The crime comics would surpass the popularity of the declining superhero based book during the years immediately following the end of the Second World War. Crime would be followed by romance and horror during the postwar years. We know what happened then and this one started it all (not my copy):
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We can speculate about what happens with auctions that raise questions until the end of time. Greater transparency in auctions is required to answer questions like this. Who’s bidding on the books? Is the auction house or an entity that the owners of an auction house have a proprietary interest in, bidding on books in the auction? Are the owners themselves bidding on the books or original art? Bidders should have this information prior to participating in an auction that should be posted in a place that is easily and publicly viewed by everyone:
The owner of this book/original art is participating in the auction
An entity that has a proprietary interest in the auction house is participating in the auction
The auction house has a proprietary interest in at least one entity participating in the auction
None of the above information conflicts with the privacy of individuals participating in the auction.
The idea that we can rely on auctions lacking transparency to provide an accurate accounting of the fair market value of a book is laughable. Seeing the speculation in threads about the value of Silver Age Marvel keys is as accurate as determining what the stock market will look like in 2035.
Private auctions lose their legally defined proverbial “shield” when more and more people start to question the process. We want transparency when gambling in a casino and there are gaming commissions to prevent shenanigans. Given the amount of money exchanging hands in collectibles, the time is ripe to place the checks used in legalized gambling and apply it to auctions. Everyone wins.
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On 9/29/2022 at 11:32 AM, lou_fine said:
Well, since the Oakland copy sold for some $33,600 a few short months after the $31,200 Pennyworth sale, and now a non-pedigree has sold for $42K, does that mean Metro's 9.8 copy which they couldn't hawk to anybody at a mere $9K has now moved up to $40K?
Was it up for sale at 9k before going to auction and selling for 42k on their auction site?
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On 10/1/2022 at 4:27 PM, Chief1332 said:
I've not posted for a while. To be honest, Bakers haven't come my way... until this week.
Lower grade, but I've not won three in a single lot before.
Cheers.
Great pick-up and nothing like “a lot of Bakers.” Pictorial Romances 22 is a favorite of mine from the run!
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On 9/30/2022 at 4:20 PM, Straw-Man said:
upgraded mac.
Beautiful copy Billy!
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On 9/29/2022 at 3:29 PM, fifties said:
Why would anyone want to see exploding or axed off heads when they are dining?
Precode horror is dated in the sense that people today have seen much worse. My daughter and her friends find precode horror books funny and find nothing scary or horrific about them. Times and people have changed since the 20th Century- especially from the generations that found a William Castle film scary.
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Leader, it’s so refreshing to see your reports- especially after reading posts in echo chamber threads about whether Marvel Silver Age keys will increase in value and the beauties by the superficial and one-dimensional “investors” who have no clue about the beauties and culture of this hobby!
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On 9/27/2022 at 7:55 PM, Straw-Man said:
not a bronze collector by nature, not a d.c. collector by nature, but a classic cover is a classic cover.
A Bronze Age classic indeed! Jeff Jones could draw bondage covers as good as any done in the Golden Age! You need issue 200 to go along with this one.
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On 9/27/2022 at 11:29 AM, CommunityComics said:
Recent pick ups. Will be putting these on display in my restaurant in ASTORIA Queens if anyone is ever in the neighborhood and wants to come say hi, the name of the spot is Comfortland and my name is Donnie
That’s what I call a Michelin Rated Menu!
“Cameron Witch’s Stew”
“Craig’s Chops”
“Elias’ Eyepopping Pie”
Will take them to go!
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On 9/27/2022 at 9:52 AM, Inaflash said:
Pretty thrilled about this one.
Congrats! You should be because it’s Bailey’s best cover. Also the greatest “devil” cover of the precode era. Look at Hell in the background! Simply awesome and I remember how excited I was to get one of these in my collection.
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On 9/26/2022 at 8:49 AM, Steviehuv66 said:
Another great cover!
That is a great one!
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“There is art made by the great comic book artist Jack Kirby, used by the C.I.A. as props for a fake movie production company in an operation to rescue diplomats in Iran (depicted in the 2012 movie “Argo”)”
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Big number for this BA key. Great to see a British classic take off. Also a great example of another successful Bronze Age creation that’s still with us:
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On 9/16/2022 at 10:22 AM, Straw-Man said:
Love it!
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On 9/17/2022 at 12:50 PM, Zonker said:
I wouldn't see that much significance in a designation of "THE Unknown Soldier." The concept of The Unknown Soldier pre-dates DC Comics, and there has been a monument to The Unknown Soldier in Arlington Cemetery since shortly after WWI. Wiki Link
Yes, and there was a Thor before JIM 83. I do see the significance when it’s Joe Kubert, the creator, who’s responsible for DC’s version of “THE Unknown Soldier” in OAAW 168
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On 9/16/2022 at 12:14 PM, Straw-Man said:
a much later doom cover. $100.
Copper? Are you feeling ok Billy? I just hope Paper Girls comics don’t start popping up on your threads!
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On 9/17/2022 at 10:00 AM, Zonker said:
I happened to be thumbing through the 1977 Sgt Rock Special the other day and this thread came to mind.
In 1977 Kanigher was claiming no credit for creating Kubert's Unknown Soldier, despite the shenanigans surrounding Star-Spangled War Stories #157.
(Note the letters page is signed R.K. even though he refers to himself in the 3rd person.)
Not sure I understand your point? Where’s the evidence suggesting OAAW 168 is not the Soldier’s first appearance? “Shenanigans” regarding SSWS 157? Did we have any references to a second Unknown Soldier anywhere like we later see, for one example, at the end of the Bronze Age with G.I. Robot? Kubert created the Unknown Soldier and retconned it to OAAW 168. The creator himself is responsible for making the connection. Not some other artist or writer doing a retcon 30 or 40 years later. There’s no evidence suggesting otherwise. There is speculation and characterizations that amount to? Kubert had one Unknown Soldier in mind because the Rock “…knew THE Unknown Soldier.” Did the Rock just know “…an Unknown Soldier.” Hence, SSWS 157’s connection to “THE Unknown Soldier” in OAAW 168. We only have these issues since Kubert himself never commented publicly about this. Still, after the Soldier and Rock continue to appear in their classic runs (OAAW, SSWS, Sgt. Rock, & Unknown Soldier) there’s never any mention of the Rock anywhere encountering another Unknown Soldier. Why is that? I had once thought SSWS 151 was the Soldier’s first appearance but also realized that the Soldier isn’t your average comic book lead character because we don’t who know he really is. That’s the beauty and mystery surrounding the Soldier. I like to believe that even the Soldier’s first appearance has somewhat of a mystery to it that we collectors will passionately debate over for as long as we live and love this hobby. Interestingly, there are some and I’m not suggesting you, who have a pecuniary interest in seeing SSWS 151 be defined as the Unknown Soldier’s first appearance because they own high grade copies and can’t find a high grade copy of OAAW 168 because they are scarce due to the black cover (I personally know a few who are interested in seeing this happen for pecuniary gain).
I went back to the prior post and want to mention that Pedrin’s book was first published in 1994, which was prior to the discovery of the Soldier’s first appearance in OAAW 168. Pedrin’s contributions to the comic book war genre are noteworthy and his book is a key reference source for Big 5 war collectors but defining the history of DC’s war books didn’t end with his publication. Keep in mind that a later discovery of a character’s first appearance isn’t unusual. The first appearance of the “Ancient Witch” in Yellowjacket Comics #7 is a recent discovery of one of the first horror hosts telling original stories in the history of comic books. This is nothing new and doesn’t discount the credibility of later discoveries of first appearances. OAAW 168 and SSWS 151 are must haves for the Soldier and Big 5 collector. I’m just hoping DC doesn’t decide to bring the Soldier back with a story that he’s given a DNA test and it turns out he’s Mademoiselle Marie! Then SSWS 84 is the Soldier’s first appearance! With DC and comics today you never know…
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HT #3 sells for a great deal more on average than Crime Does Not Pay #22. When it comes to being undervalued for the historical role it’s had and the fact that CDNP #22 achieved for the crime genre what Action Comics #1 did for the superhero, there’s no comparison. CDNP #22 is more undervalued than HT #3.