Logan510

Still funny

Nope, still funny Care to put your money where your mouth is like you said before? $100 that 2 of your 4 copies will come back 9.9?

+1

It certainly takes some balls. Of course, I don't believe he's actually guaranteeing that CGC will grade it as a 9.9.

Who is the established boardie?

None of the books you mentioned had anything other than average print runs. That's why they are so expensive, while Spiderman #1, for example, is not. X-Force #2 had an average print run for its time period as well........ X-Force #2 didn't have an average print run at all. It was the 4th highest selling book of all of 1991, after X-Men #1, X-Force #1, and Robin II: The Joker's Wild #1. But you knew that. I understand his point, and it's still inaccurate. The books he cited all had print runs in the 200-400k range...not the million+ range (and for BA #12, even lower...the Cap City orders for that book were 19,200! ) Add to that, the fact that most of them were ignored for years, sometimes decades, after they came out, and attrition took its toll. The OPG for GSXM #1 in 1978? $1.80. That is why they have value. Hulk #181 may appear to be ubiquitous, but it's not any more common than any other book of its era, and certainly LESS common than, say, the average Amazing Spiderman from the same period. I know that may not make sense intuitively, because we see Hulk #181 everywhere...but that's only because the demand is crazy. The OPG may have had GSXM #1 at that price, but I can assure you it was selling for more than that in 1978. It wasn't even a $75 book yet, but it certainly was more than $1.80. I guess that depends on how much more you're talking about. I suspect it wouldn't have been hard at all to find a copy for $2 at that year's SDCC, or Chicago. 1978 was a big year for the X-Men, their breakout year, when people started to take notice of the NEW X-Men. But...in the 1979 OPG, GSXM #1 was only $3.75. And by 1980 OPG, it was $9.00. And this is when the OPG was pretty close to the market, as small as it was. Was OPG slow on the uptake...? Oh, sure, it always has been, even when it was as close to the market as it was then. But two YEARS slow...? 1980 was the madness year for X-Men back issues...and, it was reflected in the 1981 OPG, when the book made the leap from $9 to $60, with all the rest following suit. Dark Phoenix was BIG. BIG BIG BIG. But 1978...? Not so much. Locally it was going for more and mail order copies were advertised for a bit more. I was a kid, so granted, my perspective may be a little clouded. We should ask Moondog ( Gary ), I'm positive he can give us an idea of what he was selling them for back then.

None of the books you mentioned had anything other than average print runs. That's why they are so expensive, while Spiderman #1, for example, is not. X-Force #2 had an average print run for its time period as well........ X-Force #2 didn't have an average print run at all. It was the 4th highest selling book of all of 1991, after X-Men #1, X-Force #1, and Robin II: The Joker's Wild #1. But you knew that. I understand his point, and it's still inaccurate. The books he cited all had print runs in the 200-400k range...not the million+ range (and for BA #12, even lower...the Cap City orders for that book were 19,200! ) Add to that, the fact that most of them were ignored for years, sometimes decades, after they came out, and attrition took its toll. The OPG for GSXM #1 in 1978? $1.80. That is why they have value. Hulk #181 may appear to be ubiquitous, but it's not any more common than any other book of its era, and certainly LESS common than, say, the average Amazing Spiderman from the same period. I know that may not make sense intuitively, because we see Hulk #181 everywhere...but that's only because the demand is crazy. The OPG may have had GSXM #1 at that price, but I can assure you it was selling for more than that in 1978. It wasn't even a $75 book yet, but it certainly was more than $1.80.

That's not what your listing said. You are purposefully deceiving people. I wonder if you've always been this way and I jus never noticed it. I used to think you were a boardie with integrity. Now I don't see any. Purposefully overgrazing and now outright lying. He did something similar with his Alpha Flight #17 sale. Described it as "First appearance of Big Hero Six" in big bold copy, and then formatted less prominently in the paragraph following it "by their creators," as if the first work by a creative team that's not an actual first appearance is something that collectors care about. Clearly intended to deceive people into thinking that it was the first appearance of Big Hero Six. Most people know what they are buying, you're trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill. You can't do anything about who writes what on their auctions, the buyer needs to understand what they are buying. It really has no effect on you on, so why not just worry about yourself? I'm not in Divad's corner since i've had beef with him in the past but people on here are splitting hairs on his product descriptions about what is "exactly correct to a tee" needs to stop, try going outside for a walk, get some exercise since I know most of you people could use it. Maybe the buyer should be cognizant of what they're buying, but that doesn't absolve his responsibility. How would you feel if a parent or relative of yours got fleeced from a greasy salesman? What he's doing is dishonest, plain and simple. Again, it doesn't relate to you. eBay does have a return policy and even some sellers don't know everything. I think you guys are just tired of seeing him post his auction results in the thread, well...I'm tired of reading off topic nonsense like this in the thread. Maybe you should call the eBay police and tell them you don't agree with his comic descriptions, besides, most people don't even read them anyway, they just hit the BIN/Bid button. If the buyer buys it and is happy with it, then who is he hurting? You? The collector sitting on his over weight rear end at the comic store playing magic cards with teenagers? The guy down the street? Ever think the buyer knows and actually wants the issue? Maybe he's trying to put an Alpha Flight run together? Maybe he's trying to grab all the Big Hero 6 appearances...You're not the buyer and you're not a mind reader and that goes for anyone complaining about someone's auction trying to sell a book, you don't know the buyer's intent. Plain and simple. And to answer your question about my parents or one of my relatives being taken advantage of "greasy salesman" I'd laugh at them for being so stupid and not doing your research beforehand. I work in the trading division of an investment firm of 39 billion AUM, I couldn't care less about a guy making $10-15 on a comic book. What's he doing is sleazy, if you want to hang out with this clown be my guest. I have to be honest here bud, other than the grammar police nothing irks me more than those who brag about their job in investments or stocks in a comic book forum. That's funny, because nothing irks me more than others telling people what irks them on a comic book forum Nothing irks me more than telling people who tell others they irk them about their irking and when it irks...wait... To be fair, what really irks me is when noobs try to tell other people on here how to act....but I didn't want to be mean to the n00b.

That's not what your listing said. You are purposefully deceiving people. I wonder if you've always been this way and I jus never noticed it. I used to think you were a boardie with integrity. Now I don't see any. Purposefully overgrazing and now outright lying. He did something similar with his Alpha Flight #17 sale. Described it as "First appearance of Big Hero Six" in big bold copy, and then formatted less prominently in the paragraph following it "by their creators," as if the first work by a creative team that's not an actual first appearance is something that collectors care about. Clearly intended to deceive people into thinking that it was the first appearance of Big Hero Six. Most people know what they are buying, you're trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill. You can't do anything about who writes what on their auctions, the buyer needs to understand what they are buying. It really has no effect on you on, so why not just worry about yourself? I'm not in Divad's corner since i've had beef with him in the past but people on here are splitting hairs on his product descriptions about what is "exactly correct to a tee" needs to stop, try going outside for a walk, get some exercise since I know most of you people could use it. Maybe the buyer should be cognizant of what they're buying, but that doesn't absolve his responsibility. How would you feel if a parent or relative of yours got fleeced from a greasy salesman? What he's doing is dishonest, plain and simple. Again, it doesn't relate to you. eBay does have a return policy and even some sellers don't know everything. I think you guys are just tired of seeing him post his auction results in the thread, well...I'm tired of reading off topic nonsense like this in the thread. Maybe you should call the eBay police and tell them you don't agree with his comic descriptions, besides, most people don't even read them anyway, they just hit the BIN/Bid button. If the buyer buys it and is happy with it, then who is he hurting? You? The collector sitting on his over weight rear end at the comic store playing magic cards with teenagers? The guy down the street? Ever think the buyer knows and actually wants the issue? Maybe he's trying to put an Alpha Flight run together? Maybe he's trying to grab all the Big Hero 6 appearances...You're not the buyer and you're not a mind reader and that goes for anyone complaining about someone's auction trying to sell a book, you don't know the buyer's intent. Plain and simple. And to answer your question about my parents or one of my relatives being taken advantage of "greasy salesman" I'd laugh at them for being so stupid and not doing your research beforehand. I work in the trading division of an investment firm of 39 billion AUM, I couldn't care less about a guy making $10-15 on a comic book. What's he doing is sleazy, if you want to hang out with this clown be my guest. I have to be honest here bud, other than the grammar police nothing irks me more than those who brag about their job in investments or stocks in a comic book forum. That's funny, because nothing irks me more than others telling people what irks them on a comic book forum

I'm just defending myself man I don't even know how I got dragged into this... bought a comicbook on IG now I'm a villain ?? I have been accused of things that I never did poeple's imaginations can run wild People accuse me of being a liar all the time just cause I've had a very weird life.... How long are your legs again? Long enough to roundhouse kick an old lady who's got 16 items in the 15-items-or-less line.

Looks awesome Lloyd. I really need to get a glass case like the one you have.

The thing that has always bothered me about the cover is this - how the heck is he going to hit CM from that position? Hard.

Close and this book is sought after for that reason and one other combined. I think he was going for the first "impressive" appearence. The #28 seems more impressive than the "stay off my lawn" window appearance Ha, nice. Yes, but the topic is question was first cover appearance. We can argue that we like Spider-Man #1 as the best cover but that doesn't make it more valuable than pretty much an ASM from the original run. I'm pretty sure the last 25 posts or so have been arguing what *type* of cover appearance is *more important*...ASM #315 has Venom's head (which, by the way, TOTALLY ruined #316's jive...could have been, and should have been, a nice, slam-dunk, no question first cover...but nooooo!) And, the "disembodied head" thing that was all the rage from the 60's to the 80's, versus the "full body shot" cover. CM #26 is just a shadow window appearance. #28 has him dominating the cover, whether it's silhouette or not. I doubt anyone would make the claim that #33 is "more impressive" than #28, but I'm always surprised.... And Gamora's appearance in ST #180 is a cameo. So take THAT, alla youse! I don't know about more impressive, but I've always preferred the cover to 33, it was one of my favorite covers as a kid.

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Don't worry, most of us know this to be true. Who are "most of us"? A league? You're right, I apologize. I should've said " quite a few".

Nope.

Don't worry, most of us know this to be true.

The last two dealers who bought stuff from me asked about MK 55 in particular. What's driving the interest? No idea, but it's in demand. Perhaps there's a Rule that talks about things becoming collectible again 25 years later. Every. Single. Time. I'm still waiting for Team America #1 to take off

more like shills Proof? You may be right, but I don't get that vibe. Change Nascar to Alleybat. Do you get that vibe? I get more of that vibe to be honest.

more like shills Proof? You may be right, but I don't get that vibe.

People already stoled Cool Books from me, so go ahead and steal Hot Rage....as long as it's an all girl band. I would see an all girl band named Hot Rage. Heck yeah. You know a lot of girls who look the part, can any of them play musical instruments? If so, I say lets get this thing started. Most of them think they can sing, but none of them can play instruments. Or musical instruments anyway.

People already stoled Cool Books from me, so go ahead and steal Hot Rage....as long as it's an all girl band. I would see an all girl band named Hot Rage. Heck yeah. You know a lot of girls who look the part, can any of them play musical instruments? If so, I say lets get this thing started.

People already stoled Cool Books from me, so go ahead and steal Hot Rage....as long as it's an all girl band.

Who made THAT argument? Show me who made that argument. Because slabs are not what makes something relevant. 9 year old kids walking into my store and seeing a picture of the actor who played Shane and recognizing him as 'Shane from the Walking Dead'... that does. I find that amazing. And yet I see it regularly. If you're argument is, will 9.8 #1 be worth more in 10 years or after the show ends... the answer can only be... who gives a crud. If you're argument is, has Walking Dead reached into the cultural consciousness of our society... the answer is yes. You can deny it all you want. But it has. The purpose of the thread is to discuss when (or if) the pricing bubble will bust on TWD 1. If you don't give a "crud" about what a stabbed 9.8 will be worth, why are you posting? Especially with such aggression and absolution? Interesting... here I thought I was being calm and definitive and you were the one being aggressive and absolute. There is no absolute answer on the long term price of the 9.8 #1. No one knows for sure. That was easy. :shrug: You came into the thread, replied to several posts and capitalized words or used sarcasm to belittle the points others were attempting to make. Your positioning is aggressive and you attempt to diminish others (either directly or through their point of view). From what I can see this is very typical of your posting style and it is pretty clear you are an arrogant jerk and not worth my time. Thanks, have a nice day. You totally described Chuck to a T. That guy really chaps my spurs...or whatever. I can read the rage in what you typed and you didn't even need to capitalize! I'm all about the HOT RAGE.....that's my thing yo.