Tony S

Not to take this thread off the rails - but eBay's ONLY APPEAL is getting paid quickly. Or being able to offer very low value books for sale. . Nearly every other venue actually charges lower fees and might not generate a 1099 at the end of the year. My Comic Shop, Comic Link, Comic Connect, Pedigree. Fees all less than eBay. And these places do most of the work and are responsible for shipping. MCS even has good sales results for raw books and lists your consigned slabs on eBay. The only downside is time. Takes longer to get a check

Makes sense where you got the information from. I believe - at least up to this point - have to ask that your store/business be placed on the Dealer Listing page. I had to request it. Not everyone that has a dealer account is interested in sending in books for other people. Some may not have brick and mortar stores. And some I know for sure because they have told me so have no interest in sending in books for others. The previously 20% and now 15% mark up is not near enough for the time, trouble, responsibility and potential liability.

eBay is another relationship that has gotten worse over time and needs reevaluation by many. People stay in relationships that have soured because they are afraid of change.

Back when Matt Nelson ran his own pressing/restoration business and wasn't President of CGC, he had a detailed article on his website showing that there ought to be far more 9.9's and 10's coming out of CGC. It was a thing of beauty complete with graph charts and mathematical modeling. I wish I had printed it out. It went the way of the Dodo bird when CCG bought his business, moved him to Sarasota and started their own in house pressing/restoration service. So IDK if the number of 9.9's coming out of the outfit in Texas is "ridiculous" because I have no idea how many that actually is. But there was a time when the now President of CGC believed CGC should have been grading far more 9.9's and 10's. One those truths some people might want to forget....

I do not know how many ACTIVE, routinely submitting dealer accounts there are, but there are far, FAR more than 200 authorized dealers. I have several dealers as clients - they submit using their own account - and the highest dealer number is near 2000. And this is not a "new" dealer. Owns several stores and has for years.

You do realize the vast, overwhelming hobby is raw, right? Go to any comic book store or comic convention. What's the ratio of raw to graded? 10,000 to 1? There are three comic book stores in my town and one - the largest and oldest - has not one single slabbed comic book for sale. I have customers that go back to the 1980's. Dealers shouldn't be put on any sort of pedestal, but neither should CGC. The relationship between CGC and dealers is and has been mutually beneficial. Emotions can be unproductive, but it FEELS like one side is trying to take advantage of what has been a mutually beneficial relationship.

I don't believe there was any doubt at this point, but I did call CGC and confirm that dealer accounts now have an annual cost of $199 This stands in such contrast to how CGC started. Dealers were actively recruited and treated more like influencers. For instance all of the Overstreet Advisors when CGC opened were given 10 free grading coupons. But first the discount for dealers was reduced to 15% from 20% and now there is a charge for a dealer account. I send in thousands of books every year and have for a lot of years. And I'll just mention that I am sending in books almost entirely for other people. One of the things dealer accounts were likely to be doing/CGC hoped for. A lot of people ask me which grading company they should use. Thus my "influencer" comment.

Yes, I see it now. Thanks for the link. It does rather look like it is going to be a requirement to pay. But I'll still call.

Yes, that is interesting because I'm not seeing a deadline on the screen that pops up for me. Had a dealer friend check and he has no deadline showing either

I was going to call tomorrow before I posted anything about this. I have a dealer account with CGC. The $199 dealer membership that pops up when I log in says it is for CCG and allows submission across all the CCG companies. Coins, sportscards, paper money. Those things have no value to me since I don't collect or serve customers in those fields of collectibles. Perhaps it would have value to some stores and dealers that also cater to sports cards crowd. So MAYBE those of us with CGC (only) dealer accounts will maintain such at no cost. Because the idea is that dealers send in lots and lots of books. But if they are now "selling" dealer accounts at a $199 annual fee, they might end up catching some consequences. They already torqued us a bit with the discount cut. Now a yearly fee? There's a place that used to be across the street that still views dealers as.....influencers.... and worth catering a bit more to.

German Shepherds shed like no other. LA gets an unfair rap. OAKland and Stockton are the crime capitals of California with double the rate of LA. Indianapolis Indiana has more crime per 100,000 people than every city in CA except Stockton. Comic book thieves are universally despised and dealers do not want to buy stolen comics. Others have said it and I'll repeat. The OP needs a list ASAP and the list needs to go to the places the thieves would try to sell the books at as well as the police.

I'm sure they paid more $$$

No matter how one parses it, this is pretty aggressive on the price increase front. The last increase was nine months ago. In the past it has been years - multiple years - between price increases. Price increase last April the online submission portal crashed and burned that last week before the cut over to new prices. .Be interesting to see if we get a repeat of that. Also of interest will be to see what #2 does. They didn't raise prices last time and only recently increased the price on their fast pass add on and 2 day moderns. They remain #2, but I'm certain they gained market share. Now a rising tide can lift all ships and CGC is obviously getting record amounts of submissions. But market share matters too. The cost difference is going to be pretty substantial in a couple of weeks

New glitch. Just did a submission and USPS registered mail was NOT AVAILABLE for selection. Called customer service and they looked at pending submission and could not see any cause for such. A return address that had been used before for return shipping by CGC with USPS Reg mail The work around per customer service is select FedEX ground, then in BIG RED LETTERS wrote on the submission form to change return shipping to USPS Reg Mail and charge the difference in price. Probably customer service rep has notified someone of this glitch. But I thought I would post it here as well.

I do not believe anyone has answered the OP's question. Payment PROCESSORS are going to now be required to issue a 1099 if sales totals $600 or more. The old threshold was 200 transactions AND $20,000. Payment processors include PayPal, credit card processors (say Squareup) and Venmo Local comic shops that take consignments and auction houses that sell comics from consigners are not "payment processors". The new standard does not REQUIRE that they send 1099's. They may or may not. One would have to ask if they send 1099's and if they do if there is a threshold.

If the book is already in the database all is good. If adding a book not in the database, I see no way to select or enter anything other than month and year.

I might not fully understand what you mean when you say "much ado about nothing". I've collected comic books since 1967 and seriously as an adult since the early 1970's. People thought comic book collecting "nothing" during those times. Adults that never grew up. It's not nothing and not silly anymore. And the worlds leading grader of comic books needs to behave as though this is a legitimate art form and serious business. They just graded blank sheets of clear acetate and pretended like they are invisible comic books. Comic books that ranged in grade from 1.8 to 9.8. In grading these sheets of acetate and pretending they are invisible comics, they broke numerous guidelines they normally follow (and subject our submitted real comic books to) . It's one sheet only, folded over. That's the same as a cover. Covers only get a NG (no grade) grade. How did they authenticate they were legitimate? What's the actual difference between the 1.8's and the 9.8's? Barring some convincing explanation otherwise, it seems an ill-advised partnership and an astonishingly irreverent poke at the idea of even having comic books professionally graded and encapsulated. If CGC doesn't take grading and authentication of comic books seriously, who does?

Some really good points here that I had not thought about. How hard would it be to trim a piece of acetate to size, fold it and stick a few staples in? Then submit to CGC for authentication.

My apologies. Has this been posted/commented on before? I searched and did not find anything here on the boards The article itself is dated Dec 27 and the original Bleeding Cool article was just the day before - Dec 26. If it's been discussed I'm fine with mods removing it.

Now publishers print and CGC grades invisible comic books. Seriously, if Reminds me of the children's story/folktale - The Emperor's New Clothes. I'm surprised CGC would go along with such....gimmickry. One would hope the leading comic book grading and certification company took their business seriously. Not throw in with such foolishness. Wouldn't all invisible comics grade a perfect 10? Any defects are....wait for it...INVISIBLE. Link to story. https://bleedingcool.com/comics/bad-idea-comics-offers-collectors-an-invisible-slabbed-comic/

So just did a submission of 136 books. I was rather dreading it but I have to say it was a great deal easier than my first few submissions a week ago. It is much more likely to bring up the book I am looking to submit. Sometimes it was in fact quicker than the old system For books with a lot of potential matches, I still find it easier to input the title and then publication date. Those freaking moderns and all their reboots and variant covers easily overwhelm the "first 50" results displayed. I had my first encounter with needing to input a book not in the database and found a problem. There does not appear to be a way to input a new comic with ONLY a year for publication. The system insists on month/year. The comic book I was adding only listed a year of publication in the indicia (Cannibal Romances #1 - 1986. Last Gasp) A fair number of books have been published that only list a year for the publication date. So unless I was doing something wrong, this should be added to the things needed tweaked.

With prescreens, what was done in the past is you could list different prescreen grades in a 25 or more submission - but at the end of the process it was split into separate submissions for each grade tier. You could do multiple grade prescreens (9.2 plus 9.4 plus 9.6) but you paid separate shipping on each grade back. Maybe you can still do this - by selecting "add another service" near the end as Dena describes in her first posted response?

What Sacko said. Walking Dead 1 has 253 cover variants. Spider-Man 666 has 145. . And while that's the top 2, thousands of other modern comics have been issued - and will continue to be issued - with dozens of variants. Can you imagine scrolling trying to find the right one? Along with any foreign variants? Need to be a way to hone it down some.

Thank you Dena. Appreciate your looking into some issues. My apologies for missing the "add another service". As for what you refer to as the typehead, it's hard for me to grasp the concept that the current inputting of title/issue number will ever be easier to use than the old. Yes, the old required multiple fields to be filled out. But those multiple fields in a logical way honed in on the exact issue being sent in. First enter/select title, then publisher, then issue number, then publication date and a final field to enter things like variant covers, later printings, foreign edition, price variants. Trying to do all that in one space runs into the problem I described (and encountered) with modern books (that is published since 1975) of popular characters. Marvel has done a lot of comic books entitled "Amazing Spider-Man" since 1975. Pretty much all made it to issue 4. Then there are variant covers, foreign publishers, price variants, later printings. The list of comic books title/issue of Amazing Spider-Man 4 is just a L O N G one. Step by step narrowing it down - for me anyway - seems a lot easier. What's likely to happen - in a greater degree - is what was happening with the old system. User's can't find their book so they just create a new listing. What I did find helpful was to enter Amazing Spider-Man and then the publication date. Don't bother with issue number. While there are still a lot more Amazing Spider-Man's published 09/14 than you would think, the list is smaller by many multiples and you can find your book. I have to say I rather dread the idea of doing a submission of 20 foreign editions with this new system. Maybe I'm wrong and it won't be so bad..... As for the different amounts due showing on the payment screen for credit card vs check, maybe some additional information might help you identify the problem. I did three submissions last night, one right after the other. So over a period of an hour or so. The first submission the amount due by check was $630 more than the submission total/amount due by credit card. Now $630 is exactly the amount of an accounting error I had worked on with CGC accounting to fix just two days earlier. So my first thought was I needed to call up and say "you've billed the right person now but it looks like you haven't applied the $630 back where it belongs". But then the next two submissions the amount due by check was exactly $100 more than the submission total/amount due via credit card. So it looked much more random. Again, thank you for your work on this.