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Great report!…

Kind of off topic, does anyone know if Harley has a personal collection or does every comic that comes through his hands have a price?

On 12/24/2023 at 6:58 PM, Steven Valdez said:

Maybe there IS a massive sting operation going on right now. If so, CGC/FBI wouldn't want to reveal their tactics until the perp is apprehended.

They don’t have to reveal any tactics to say, hey, we are looking in to this and this is what we are gonna do in the meantime…it doesn’t reveal anything…the silence speaks volumes…

I don’t care if CGC is closed till May, the  non-response boggles my mind…something as simple as we are looking in to the issue and halting re-subs and re-holders for the time being…unconscionable…

Nice results 

I won two books and payed for them at the same time…do they normally send them separately?…I received one today and the invoice shows just that one book…haven’t gotten the fedex tracking for the other…

On 10/13/2023 at 9:08 AM, darkstar said:

Almost nobody is paying the graded market price for a raw book. A de-slabbed book could have incurred additional damage, or it could've been subjected to attempts at restoration or pressing, etc.

Or it could be an entirely different book…

On 9/2/2023 at 6:29 AM, jimbo_7071 said:

You might want to reconsider that "wow" after you've looked at the high resolution scans. For instance, the "9.8" Tec 167 has multiple printer's tears on the back cover, including one that's an inch long.

I thought it. was a stain…you may be right though…

Probably need to combine your sales threads.

You need to combine your threads…unless something has changed around here…

I’ll take FF 48 per PM…

You have your IM 152 listed as 9.8…

Good for you Mike…I went from 7 long boxes down to 5 graded comics over the last 2 years…I thought I would have sellers remorse, but don’t at all…sold them all to 3 different buyers…I started collecting in 1980…

On 3/16/2022 at 3:00 AM, lostboys said:

I don't think a 9.8 should have a color break. I'd feel differently if there were more 9.9s and 10s available.

I'm thinking a 9.8 with a color break is probably a dead giveaway the book has been pressed though.

Can you explain why you think this about the dead giveaway for being pressed?…I’ve don’t recall ever reading anything about this phenomena…genuinely curious…

I have never used CCS…but I have used CFP and I know he, Joeypost, does awesome work at a competitive price…highly recommended…

I did the same thing in the last year or so…I’m actually down to 5 slabs from 3500 books…thought I would have seller’s remorse, but surprisingly do not…

If you are hoping for a 9.8 on either, you are setting yourself up for disappointment even without seeing pics ...I guess anything is possible, but I'm guessing there has to be defects you aren't seeing...maybe inside the books...

Don’t know about recent turn around times, but have have always been very pleased with CFP/Joeypost…very good with any Q&A you may have also…

Long time lurker, I see…technically, they are safe as long as they are sitting in a box somewhere not moving or being mailed…I would call them again and ask for a manager…I haven’t seen any recent books that noticeably move around…I would think persistence will pay off eventually…

I would gladly have pitched in 5K with 20 to 30 others just to own a piece of one of these keys…in 10 years you may net a 200% ROI…we should have organized it and passed it around every quarter or so…

8 minutes ago, JLA Brad said:

This is a 9.6?  That top left corner looks chewed up!

May be a bindery chip...they certainly weren’t gonna dock that on this collection...your cover looks structurally better, but the 9.6 is more aligned...personally I like your old copy better, at least on initial appearance...

9 hours ago, Mmehdy said:

I believe you missing the fact of actual inherent value of GA comic books and the incredible historical significance of PL 17 as opposed to MS 1st appearances or Giant size X-Men's. The crypto can come and go, I do not factor them in a TCMC for the long haul. I am certainly glad they not looking at PL 17...if they did and realized how really  valuable OO GA pedigree SOI comic books are..God help us it could  hit 500K.  Movie or no movie, buy the "book" not the "Hype". I like MCU, don't get me wrong, but with 10,000 copies of Giant Size X-men out there, the flip side against you argument is that the Giant Size X-man market can be flooded much easier, heck they grow on trees..but NOT PL 17 in 9.6 from a pedigree collection. No contest here on the potential of market "dumping".

 The best thing to help  GA TCBC's is market distraction and thank the MCU Movies etc for that now that this collection has become available for the first time.

I get where you are coming from, but the value is what it is…I understand rarity, provenance and historical relevance, which PL17 has in spades…everything is worth what someone will pay for it…both MS5 and GSX1 are in higher demand in 9.8, I don’t care how many copies there are…There are no Phantom Lady movies, toys or comics to bring in new interests…yes GSX1 grow on trees, but at market value the demand outweighs the supply…I was born in 1968 and have always been a Bronze fan, but I would take a that PL17 over a MS5 9.6 any day, but not over a 9.8…on a side note, I enjoy browsing the Gold sub more than than any other due to the knowledge you guys have and I’m looking forward to see the hammer prices of this collection!

23 minutes ago, Randall Ries said:

No, Thor's hammer. I would not. It is not a rare book. Hundreds and thousands of copies available. This is ONLY MY OPINION AND NOT A JUDGMENT.

I would spend 20k on a Golden Age book. I could get a snappin' Batman #9 or 11 for that money. True rarity. True pride of ownership. I understand why people want IH 181. They are Marvel fans, Wolverine fans and fans of money. I imagine many simply want one to say they have one. Be part of the club. I never had a burning desire to stand next to the IH 181 fire. I respect the book but it isn't important enough to me to shell $20k.

That fact seems to be it's simply the buyers who are driving the prices. Willing to pay terrible sums to say "I own an IH 181". Telling sellers "I'll lpay anything you ask! Just GIMME! My ego DEMANDS it!"

Batman #9 was the last time Joker killed until Bat 251. That's more relevant to me. And it's a tough cover and hard to get in high grade. Just look at those newly graded Golden age books that are being talked about here. Those things are truly rare. And works of art.

A few years ago, I approached my wife and said "I'd like to get this 9.0 IH 181 book. It's $3700. It's going up in value." I was told no and then felt "whatever". Didn't revisit it again.

So, I watched the prices go up. I didn't feel much. That told me it was pretty much a money thing that I would have applied to the book. I just don't value money that much. I value the books. I bought a 7.0 All Star Comics #7 instead. IMO, it's a key that's more relevant than Wolverines 1st app.

More power to the buyers of IH 181. I don't hope it crashes in value. I just don't understand why people would shell out that kind of dough for a common book. I really think it's the buyers who are causing the price spikes. Not the book itself. It's a bandwagon book.

The value of IH 181 is simply supply and demand...they are very liquid and in demand, more so than the Batman’s you mentioned...if you have 3M of something and 4M people want them, it drives prices higher...economics 101...like anything else, it’s value is what someone is willing to pay for it...