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Marvel Two in One #51

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Fantastic Four #176

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In this issue, Bullseye's finishing move was shooting the rope that suspended a knife inches above one of the hostages heads.  Good times!

Made me look, I remembered a scribble in the same corner of mine.  

1. (Right?) Click on any picture on the internet or any hosted site.

2. Choose open in new tab.

3. Copy url from new tab and paste in your post.

4. Let board software auto embed (do not click "display as link instead")

When I click on any of the photobucket links posted in this thread all I did was copy the url and paste it. 

On 3/23/2022 at 10:24 PM, Hepcat said:

Let's see how this works with IMG tags:

http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/StxyComics2.jpg[/IMG]

Nope, no better.

Are you clicking the "display as link instead" option?  The url will auto embed if you don't do that. 

On 2/20/2022 at 7:30 PM, Bo1983 said:

Okay with the recent sell of secrets wars 8 panel I figured I start a discussion!

Not trying to derail your thread as redundant, just sharing an old "as it happened thread" - as I recall the hammer price surprised most back then.

Old thread, now archived.

On 2/1/2022 at 1:29 PM, The Meta said:

40% of sales

Is that common between other titles as well?

Maybe X-men but I think ASM was the best selling Marvel newsstand during those late 90's- early 2000's was probably Marvel's last best effort to maintain newsstand distribution after rebooting most of their major titles.  Anecdotally ASM was the only title I could buy at both of the corner stores that carried comics.  Never saw much X-men on the stands till the movie released.

@valiantman  I chartified your "57% returns method" for newsstand101.com and rare comics - benjynobel/solarcollector 

I've got other ASM number exercises like the ones I posted in the @GarBear newsstand discussion thread I linked earlier but can't really respond to other stuff when my ASM figures tell me NS editions were about 40% of sales late in the v2 Byrne run.   

If your methodology is to just find common ground to appease a critic like @Lazyboy and then expecting others to shape opinions based on arbitrary acceptable thresholds, have fun.

Without pulling or working with the Diamond direct sales numbers from the statement of ownership figures, you're just "moving on or forward" to further misinformation, return percentages mean little if you can't reasonably estimate direct sales.  

Applying a 57% (?) return rate from 1999 and using it on data from 12 years later doesn't make any sense.  I'd ask for an explanation but I still don't know if the '86 tipping point was production or sales. 

The Avengers title has some serious changes over 12 years - Liefeld Reborn to Busiek/Perez reboot to Geoff Johns to Bendis as well as being a core Civil War boosted companion book in 2007.  For the record, ASM saw a doubling of direct sales with JMS/JRJR run over a short period of time - - - overall distribution was flat because newsstand sales declined sharply..    

Whatever chart or easily understood graphic comes from the assumptions made in this thread is likely to be misunderstood and misinterpreted by others, I realize that discussions of supply here create demand in the marketplace.  Attempting to align data from "production and distribution" to support the market availability calculations doesn't work in reality but it's worse if you aren't considering all factors available.  In summary, I agree with some of the data and believe that late Marvel newsstands are very rare but it's meaningless without demand..  

On 1/31/2022 at 10:00 PM, valiantman said:

If the distribution was 50/50, and the return rate was 40%, that means the original print run was 70% newsstand and 30% direct editions in the mid-1980s, with 30% newsstands surviving and 30% direct editions surviving (50/50 distribution).

That would be a newsstand return rate of 40% out of 70% printed, or 57% of newsstands printed were returned.

Does all that match your interpretation?

 

The 50/50 print run date would have occurred later than the mid-1980s in that scenario.

SheHulk #1 came out the same month I discovered my first non-Toronto comic shop (Fiction House on Elmwood in Buffalo NY) so it was very early in the national direct sales program.

I personally believe the abundance of surviving early directs from that era is partially due to the often touted "extra care taken by the serious LCS collectors" but I also believe the greater factor was the fact that unsold non-returnable inventory was cheap and usually money in the bank for these new business owners.  If you over ordered 25 issues @$0.20 each of a comic it only cost $5.00, if there was a lot of demand, you could usually bag them up for $2.00 - $5.00 in a few months.   

So the "good" over ordering would result in a bagged sale at a higher aftermarket price, which would create a desire to take greater care of the book...but I'd bet a book like SheHulk #1 was a huge speculative miss for dealers with most inventory never seeing the light of day for many years. 

Either path leads to more surviving direct copies even back then.  As for CGC labeling of newsstands, to the best of my knowledge, that is only on the label when there is a price difference. 

On 12/24/2021 at 6:34 PM, Domo Arigato said:

Link to search

Used 13 times in December so far..........9 times by a single member.

 

The fact that it's a phrase that's been reduced to occasional "call-back" humour doesn't seem like an overwhelming problem.  

Here are the board threads with their name in the title.

https://boards.cgccomics.com/search/?&q="Unknown comics"&quick=1&search_and_or=or&search_in=titles&sortby=relevancy

On 12/16/2021 at 3:13 PM, BlowUpTheMoon said:

 CGC got rid of a small revenue stream of people paying for graders notes.

CGC created a large revenue stream of people checking graders notes to see if a crack-press-resubmit will result in a higher grade.

Yes, brilliant decision.

I bet they could maintain that front end money by creating a dashboard feature that kicks in at Premium or Elite Level members that ranks the top 50 books by # of grader note requests over the past 7 days.    

On 12/5/2021 at 6:08 AM, HotKey said:

First appearances in any country are just that. We shouldn't expect either the worldwide comic community or the American comic community who is involved in foreign editions to agree that only American 1st appearances count. Why should someone in Brazil not have a 1st appearance designation on their 1st appearance of anyone published in Brazil? It seems in the same vein as elitism and gatekeeping, just imo. The comic community is worldwide and everyone deserves a seat at the table under the new much bigger tent, let's accept that and make any necessary changes to implement this fact into grading.

If a foreign edition contains the 1st appearance of any character printed in that country, it should absolutely state so on the label. It should also state when the (original) American publication happened as well. 

All this information can easily fit on the label, whether the front or the back. 

I definitely agree that CGC needs to be very publicly open about whatever policy they do implement regarding this though. 

The foreign editions market is growing nearly daily and it is just a matter of time before someone has a huge financial regret from buying a foreign edition marked incorrectly or insufficiently. 

Not all foreign series are on the same publication timelines as the original US versions so, as an example, if Mexico started reprinting Daredevil and ASM series at the same time, is DD #2 the first Mexican appearance of Electro or would the ASM #9 be the first Mexican edition reprinting the first appearance of Electro?   

There are no country specific first appearances, every "first appearance" label that doesn't contain the first published version of the issue, wherever it was printed, should have a qualifier (2nd print, reprint, foreign edition etc...)

On 12/2/2021 at 5:40 PM, Math Teacher said:

Just as an update, I was interested in three books, not two. And I just purchased one of these books from a different venue. Now, the two books that I am interested in have an asking price of approximately $1,000.

Since there seemed to be a concern of annoying the seller by following up.  I'd suggest letting him know that you're no longer interested in one of the books would be good communication on your part. 

I don't know if your offer was itemized by the book or a lot price for 3 books but if it's the latter you need to proactively advise him that the scope of the offer has changed.     If you don't rescind the offer before he accepts it you'd probably get opinions on both sides here as to which party was "in the wrong" if he was intent on forcing a sale via a hypothetical PL nomination.   

Will the new gold forum have a default font size?

I don't think it's broken now so I'd prefer a discussion on title formatting, some suggestions below:

Age indicated first in title line G S B C M and/or a RAW/CGC/MISC 

Shipping destinations served in brackets (US CA UK MX AU or WW - for worldwide)

I'd also prefer to see the avatar of the OP/seller on the right side in the sales forums.

So a title that reads: "S (US, CA, UK) Amazing Spider-Man 3 CGC 2.5" helps people find and skip threads

On 11/17/2021 at 9:24 AM, CGC Mike said:

Keep the removal suggestions coming.  I will be back later today.  After we remove some of the unwanted ones, we can add some cool, new ones.  

Keep in mind any removed or changed emojis will result in broken links in historical threads....like the old :thumbsup:  

But.... I have no objection to removing the oversize ones like spock, martini, cheers beers etc..

On 11/14/2021 at 8:32 AM, CGC Mike said:

  I looked at one person's post, and it was used 15 times in 2 days. 

On 11/11/2021 at 7:58 PM, oakman29 said:

I swear that there is some kind of quantum shift in this world. Not just these boards,  my office doesnt seem to care about customer service anymore. I find life changing,  and not for the better. Maybe I am just an old fart in a bizarro world. Or maybe I did die of Covid at the hospital,  and my soul doesnt realize I'm gone. Whatever it is just sucks. Everything,  and everyone seems different to me and I'm just not sure what to make of it.

At least the Bills are crushing it, oh wait...