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Sal really revitalized the brand!

So those Drektacular #1 pages I bought because Joe Schmucklack will be in fine art museums were a bad investment???

Its clearly not your cup of tea, but ask yourself this. Is Schulz an amazing artist? I can make a case that he's amazing. And I can make a case that he draws like a third grader with a broken hand. And that's essentially what all of these conversations boil down to. (You like Schulz so you forgive the childlike nature of it, as do I, and as do most people. But he's not trying to outdraw frazetta either. There is really no genius in his hand. Its the writing and the fact that he faced the drawing board every single day for 50 years despite being clearly out of gas the last 20. The early stuff is magic, but you can't really call it amazing drawing. Yet I'd call him a great artist.).

Never a big fan of DD either really except for some of the later issues, but it was his early work. Anyways, its not really the "drawing" per se that sets Miller apart. He's not trying to outdraw frazetta. He's trying to use each frame to tell a story in the way a movie would. 8 panels of Kingpin smoking a cigar in the pitch black because that sets the mood as the shadowly underworld villain he's supposed to be. Now maybe that's not your cup of tea but the point is, he's not trying to draw the most beautiful art he can. He's trying to illustrate the most impactful story he can. Those are very different things and he was extremely successful at creating impact, so much so that the impact went past the printed page and even changed the course of the industry. Similar idea for Barks in that its not his drawing that sets him apart, its the writing, its the life the characters are infused with. Same for Crumb - he can draw but its not the drawing. Its the look into human nature with him. In a way, its not fair to compare artists that are also writers to artists that purely illustrate but you can't really stop it from happening because writing often gets marginalized and a good --script can be ruined pretty quickly by bad art. Gibbons isn't special at all, but he illustrated Alan Moore. If he had illustrated the writings of Joe Shmucklack neither one of us would even know his name.

I see Jay Olie Espy likes my math

So basically 162 images you want to keep

This is tough to read; so sorry!

at one point they were listed in the same auction. they moved one back to november. So, yes.

Yeah, it seems like the distribution crisis circa 74 caused lots of the existing talent to leave, and it took five years before they could restock the shelves.

Yeah fair point . It’s really 75-79 or so that was generally the hot turd a couple artists excepted.

Kane really did draw like every flipping cover for five years Good use of his talents actually; he’s great as a cover man but the interiors didn’t always work

I’m sure they’d do very well also

Brewster’s Millions???

Swamp thing 21

I like that idea, but I suspect you’ll get even less agreement. A top 5 list in comics should be a piece of cake in some ways because it should be the few guys that you just can’t ignore. The undeniable.

^ I dunno if you thought I was joking, but I'm not. I'd say somebody paying 90k feels strongly enough that the market is underpricing it that they are going into this planning to not let any soft data points happen. They see the census and the November listing just as well as you and I do!

I'm going to guess the winner of this one is ready willing and able to win the next one too. 75+

I'll go Kirby Barks Adams Crumb Miller

hmm, wasn't through heritage

I thought it looked familiar. I'll look it up

The only way, with all possible respect, that Sal B makes my top five is if one of the criteria is that the artist’s first name be Sal But that’s the beauty of art, we all have our different takes.

I hope no one will mind a fresh thread as I am having trouble digging up my old one but real nice piece posted to the facebook group, from Blizzard's corporate vaults sadly.. as there is so little stuff like this around. Anyways, Warcraft 2 Here is the OA! ... and if anyone wants to join the group, it is here https://www.facebook.com/groups/502536466816380/

that's the same book your splash is from isn't it? Nice book too as Xemnu made some mainstream appearances. I was looking at it too but passed due to already having won enough for one auction, and the back of Xemnu being turned I didn't like so much.

^ it’s another one of those things that really can’t be calculated IMO. The vast vast majority of his work is owned by his museum. Hard to say where the art would be valued without that supply taken out of the equation.

That would be a great metric if all the art existed but it doesn't. Which means there's a whole extra layer of guessing involved. Of all of those, the only one that's easy to calculate to any degree is Schulz. The museum has half of it and most of the rest should exist. They fetch say 30k on average when you do a weighted average on the market value of 6 dailies and one sunday, making his output worth about $540m (18,000 x 30,000). Perhaps you reduce that by 10% or 20% to account for whatever art may have been destroyed.