Bronty

Gene. Just stop it already; be self-aware. We've been on these boards for 17 years. You're a good dude but you have demonstrated time and again that you don't think much of that material (either the content or the price potential). I can think of both posts and pm's where you've talked about "lotus prices being stupid" or "collecting games being dumb" etc etc etc. Its abundantly clear that you don't truly believe in what generational changeover means because you have no interest in collectibles past a certain date. My personal favorite was when you were telling me about how illustration art had to fill this checkbox and that checkbox to matter to anybody and the example you used was Pac Man art... how could anybody find that interesting? Which is when I replied to you with a picture of my Pac Man box art to which you dropped the convo Still gives me the chuckles I activated the link just now just for you

I don't GAF about that. But since we have these conversations every month I can't help but see that you're willfully blind to anything that you aren't yourself interested in. If you believe in generational changeover as a driving force, then own it. Apply the logic consistently. Ie if you really believe that the reason you were wrong all these years about comic art prices is due to those kids growing up, then you ought to be quite bullish on video games, mtg, and pokemon. But, since you'll never admit to that, I'm forced to think that you're full of poop when you say you've learned anything from it.

Yeah. That only lasted five minutes.

Well, OK, but if you had really learned from that experience you might not be so quick to pizz all over the things people were into 25 years ago, like mtg and games. You say you've figured it out but you continue to apply the same thinking. That will get you the right answer with respect to comics but not with respect to other collectibles that are coming up. I don't know if I'd apply the 25/75 thing quite as harshly as Donut but if you agree with him, then agree with him, for all that entails. (Even if that means *gasp* people collecting Pokemon cards because they liked them 25 years ago).

Yes, and enough to make people betting the other way a lot of money! But that still doesn't make it a cliff dive.

Not sure I'd call 1.16 to 1.12 a 'cliff dive' :P I'd just call that graph 'lopping off the bottom 96% of the picture'

Of course I do

At the end of the day Steve Borock publicly posted about viewing the book and confirmed the grade range. What more could any reasonable person ask for.

You just need to frame one up above the headboard in the master bedroom

Borii.

Don’t make me start posting Borises!

Never heard of 'im!

I see movies as being a little bit like sports cards. The material is rarely as hot as it is right at release. Players retire. Movies are one (or maybe 2-3) and done. Nothing new to perk up the interest in the old. You need the new issue of Captain America coming out every month to keep the value of the #1 up. Which reminds me, that's a good way to dumb this all down. When they stop printing these characters/titles as physical comics... no bueno...

we sure get in some ridiculous debates around here

He nailed it.

nevermind

That's fine. These are macro discussions; generalizations by nature.

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I've always agreed with the long term conclusion. 50 years from now the comic market will look more like the coin market. A lot of disinterest and a few ultra high end items. The plainest way to guess what a comic market that has aged out will look like is to look at older markets that have themselves aged out. Coins, stamps, antiques.

I just think we are talking past each other a little here. I don't really care that much what the statistics are. I'm saying most mothers, if they can swing it, prefer to own the place they raise their children in. Whether or not people can swing it is (what you're answering) is different than what I'm saying (that regardless, ownership is what people are going to prefer at child rearing stage of life, polls and lies 20 year olds tell themselves notwithstanding).

Yet the majority own. Of course there are exceptions. But Joe and Jane Average with 2-3 kids want a house with a yard if they can afford it. THey want space for their kids. Heck they might even buy the apartment next door if they live in one and tear the walls down! Sound like anyone you know?

Here's "an experience." Having three kids and a life in a neighborhood and getting booted the eff out and having nowhere to go when your landlord decides to sell. People rent because they have to; not because they want to. Given the choice between renting in vancouver (or similar) and owning in the burbs many will choose the burbs. Relatively few IMO will truly choose to rent in perpetuity. Perhaps they will have that choice thrust on them by circumstances, but then its not much of a choice is it?

Last paragraph is on point! A mother wants a nest. Period. Not a frickin airbnb

You know, boards are in decline in general and there isn’t as easy an answer as there is here for comics but the best one would be nintendoage. There’s also digital press and Atari age. There are also numerous Facebook groups.