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4 minutes ago, ComicConnoisseur said:

I seen this picture with 5 other people. All 5 people were between the ages of 20-30. Everyone of them loved it and they want to see the next one.

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Let's face it Luke is gone and the fanbase is hurt. No one wants to see one of their icons put out to the pasteur. I was sad as well,but I realize it is time to let go of the old Star Wars so the new Star Wars can exist. The new young crowd now will have their Star Wars like we did.  It is also a smart business move for Disney. Always look for the 18-34 demographic for relatibilty for future sales.  If Disney sticks to trying to appease the 50 year old crowd than Star Wars the franchise will age like it's die hard 50 year old fanbase and die out. They need to continue to have their future movies aimed at a younger demographic just like Spider-Man Homecoming did.

So back to my conclusion again.

If you are not a die hard Star Wars fans you will love this movie, but if you are a die hard Star Wars fan you will hate it.

You are generally correct. However, I think a good movie that honors the past, while making way for new characters would have wildly more successful for everyone. 

Getting out of the way?  What was there an overabundance of Mark Hamill's Luke Skywalker in the past 34 years? That 15 seconds at the end Force Awakens was too much?  Having Luke in a Star Wars movie was rare, precious, and fleeting.  They squandered it. 

12 minutes ago, ComicConnoisseur said:

I think a lot of the dissatisfaction is know one wants to see their heroes age and die in front of their eyes like the orginal characters have these last two movies. As we see them age it reminds their fanbase they are aging as well. Know one wants to be reminded of that.

I'm sure a few feel that way, but most people I've talked to that disliked VIII assumed that most, if not all, of the original characters were going to die in this "trilogy" (before it started).  They just wanted good movies.

2 hours ago, Gatsby77 said:

A lot of the griping I see isn't actually about contradictions between VII and VIII, but rather that fanboys imagined how they wanted things to go in VIII, only to see their theories dashed.

 

You nailed it. I imagined VIII wasn't going to be a pile of dung and my theory was dashed.

12 minutes ago, GM8 said:

Or those were genuine reviews and the ones downvoting it were just responding to nostalgic groupthink?

It was at least equal on both sides.  From what I read, I'm sure there were more fake positive reviews than negative.

This movie had no respect for Luke and it was just plain not fun.  Worst direction they could have gone.

9 minutes ago, jsilverjanet said:

...finally Luke has come to his senses....

 

Yep, that is the biggest problem with the movie. Luke was not Luke.

2 hours ago, Gatsby77 said:

If a small proportion of Star Wars nerds were pissed at some of the choices made in this film, they need to get over it -- for me it was a far superior film to TFA, and I can't wait to see the next chapter.

They made a decent movie that at the same time spit on Luke Skywalker.  If you have no problem with that, I don't know what to say. It makes me ill thinking about it.    

Well, I was pretty blah about this series, until the break finale.  It could end up being one of the greatest Trek series of all time if:

I owe George Lucas the biggest apology ever.

1 hour ago, Chip Cataldo said:

My favorite cover of all time. I was lucky enough to hold the original artwork in my hands years ago. 

Yes, in my top 5 also! I'm so jealous!

I can sum up my feelings with Disney's purchase in two pictures:

The Flash is a fun show, but the Council of Reeds is way cooler.

10 minutes ago, Twanj said:

Awesome page! I'm a big Lim fan http://www.comicartfans.com/gallerydetail.asp?gcat=103642

I'd guess the actual IG page at $1922 would be the height of the value range, since it's not an IG page. So my guess it between $1250-1750. But things can go crazy.

Nice pages you have there!

Thanks for all of the great (and surprising) info.  Yeah, my camera isn't the best, here is another shot.

In person, surfer is clear, but I mainly bought the page because of the really cool moment in the story.

Hi all, i don't really follow original art prices and was wondering if anyone has a ballpark estimate of the value of this page from Silver Surfer #50.

This is the lead-in to Infinity Gauntlet #1. Silver Surfer crashes through Dr. Strange's window to warn everyone.

It's for insurance, not to sell.  Thanks.

 

But can we PLEASE stop with the mythology of "faithful to the source material equals better" BS?

 

While I agree with you for the most part, this was a bad example. Sticking exactly to the source material, even with Stan's corny dialog, would have been 1000x better than this turd.

As long as they get the core of the characters correct, variations of details don't bother me that much. Example: The Thing is not a murdering mercenary. No, just no.

Your picture frame set gallery might be the best in the registry. So cool.

I bought this on eBay a couple years ago. I've been hoping to find a nicer copy but my odds of winning Powerball are probably better.

 

I finally dug it out and sent it down to Florida. Unless there's another copy in the pipeline. it'll be the first graded copy. It's one of the last 5 (of 388) books I need to complete a CGC graded set.

Just four left?! That's absolutely incredible!

You know you have a problem when you find this in a shipping box while cleaning and you didn't even remember owning it.

Star Wars: The Force Awakens doubled FF's entire domestic gross on opening day.

On Thursday, FF took in $190 per theater. Ricky and the Flash, with Meryl Streep as a "hard-rocking guitarist", took in $279 per theater. They've been out the same amount of time.

Unfortunately, anyone assuming the 2014 #1 movie studio is hoping Disney will pay them for the Fantastic Four rights is missing that key fact. Money is not the play here.

 

Now that X-Franchise TV rights - that's where the negotiation focus should rightly focus. Fox wants them - and Disney owns them. There is no getting around those facts.

Money is always the play. X-Men TV rights are worth money. Keeping the rights away from Marvel is worth money. Fox's future FF profits and Marvel's future FF profits are worth a dollar amount (not the same). With the situation as it is now, it seems like there is a deal to be made were both sides make a profit (whether it is cash, or cash/rights exchange).

BOXOFFICEMOJO: Weekend forecast, August 14-16

 

Forecast (August 14 - Aug. 16):

 

1. Straight Outta Compton - $45M

2. The Man from U.N.C.L.E. - $19M

3. Mission: Impossible - Rogue Nation - $14M

4. Fantastic Four - $11M

5. The Gift - $5.5M

 

 

8/13/15: $1,412,097

8/12/15: $1,665,804

8/11/15: $2,935,121

8/10/15: $2,262,459

8/09/15: $5,825,044

8/08/15: $8,577,825

8/07/15: $11,282,868

 

I'm not sure how they forecasted an $11 MM weekend when the past few days haven't even added up to $8.3 MM.

 

Yeah time to sell to Marvel and hope that what they are willing to pay doesn't plummet.

 

It might be worth it for these studios (Fox and Sony) to keep the license just to prevent Marvel/Disney from using the properties. Remember, if Marvel/Disney gets these properties and puts out a blockbuster, that is money the other studios don't see by way of lost ticket sales on their offerings.

 

Now what I can see is these studios "loaning" these characters back to Marvel/Disney for a cut of the profits.

 

It would be silly for any of these studios to let Marvel/Disney get these characters back. I'll bet the studios who lost Daredevil, Ghost Rider, and some of Marvel's lesser known characters wish they had hung onto them.

It comes down to what Disney/Marvel is willing to pay to get the rights back. The price will never be lower than it is right now. Fox is about to lose a ton on this last one ($100M?), I'm sure they would like that back and then some. Whatever Marvel pays they would make back in the long run, more than Fox would make, that is for sure.

 

by now movie goers must think Doom is the only super villain the FF ever fought.

 

Thanks kind of like Shredder with the TMNT. They've got plenty of villains, but Shredder always gets crammed into the mix.

 

seriously, screw doom v FF, I'd loooovvvee to see a doom v mephisto for the soul of his mom. No origin story needed. He's just the king of Latveria, he wears a mask, he's got some science and magic powers, he's mostly evil but also mostly cares about his people, and he wants to effff up mephisto....anndddd go!

Doom is a very interesting character.

While he's a villain to the F4,he does help them out when things get really bad.

He's neither hero or villain,he mainly helps when it benefits him.

He also wants to prove that he's better scientist than Mr.Fantastic,and in some cases he is.

I would love to see a team up with Dr.Strange and Dr.Doom battling Mephisto.

I think we are all in agreement. The first part is awesome as well. Selection of the new Sorcerer Supreme and it comes down to Strange and Doom.

I doubt this could happen, but here is a possible way to salvage FF:

 

1. Ideally, Marvel/Disney realizes the price for FF will never be lower than today, and offers Fox a deal they can't refuse.

2. Since no one could stomach an FF reboot any time soon, Marvel starts with either a solo Dr. Doom movie or Dr. Strange 2 with Dr. Doom. Victor's mother being damned, growing up in Latveria, college meeting Reed and Ben, becoming Doom, then rescuing his mother with the help of Dr. Strange (just like in the great Doom/Strange graphic novel).

3. FF guest stars in the Infinity Gauntlet movies.

4. Then full on Galactus story in their own movie.

1) Too toxic right now for even Disney.

2)Enuff Doom for now. Maybe Psycho Man/Wasp cameo in Ant-Man 2 ?

3)Nope. Too much will be going on at it is.

4) Maybe Galactus cameo at end of Thor 3 ?

1) Nothing better than buying low.

2) Psycho Man/Wasp - Not bad. I still think fans would go crazy for a real Dr. Doom movie even if it came out next month.

3) Yeah. I'd love to see them in it though (along with Doom).

4) Any post-credit scene with Galactus would be epic.