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Every jurisdiction is different, but this sounds about right. In many cases the local police are more concerned with things that involve danger or destruction. It seems like with this specific situation, all money and comics were willingly handed to the company, and that agreed upon services were not provided. Obviously with all the facts presented here it appears to be lean nefariously into the realm of criminal, but as was stated, many police would dismiss this as a civil issue, especially if they were understaffed (or just lazy). I know there are other agencies to contact that have already been contacted, like Oregon DOJ, or USPS, or the FBI/DOJ, local PD, but one could also consider contacting the local District Attorney's Office. I know that for the county I live in (not in Oregon), many fraud cases are referred by local PD to the District Attorney's Office, who have their own staff of sworn police investigators. Again, I have no idea if that applies in the Oregon county in question, but for those gung ho folks who want to examine more options, that may be another one to examine. The other benefit of this is that the DA's office might be more aware of the other crimes some related parties may have committed, and be able to connect dots better on a larger scale (or help them solve/pursue other related cases), or possibly help out if some of these comics show up as evidence in other cases.

Consider emailing or contacting cgc customer service directly to ask

Note that your selling venue and timing might impact price

Actually I think a very very large percentage of comics are bought/sold this way. And its fine. We talk a lot about keys here a lot, but they actually make a a very small percentage of comics created, bought, or sold. Tons and tons of comics are bought for literally pennies (or less) on the secondary market, and then sold as $1 or $2 books. Or people buy big lots and essentially pay for the keys and get the rest of the bulk common books as free extras to sell in the dollar bins. So they buy 10 books to sell at 20-60% profit and 500 books to sell at 100x (or more) profit. Who decides what is too much profit? So its ok for a guy to buy 2000 books for a penny each, and sell one of those books for $20. But the same guy can't buy 1 book for $5 and sell it for $25? Or buy a book for $7000 and sell it for $8500? My philosophy is if nobody is lying or putting undue pressure, make your offers and take it or leave it, no hard feelings.

You can take a peek at sold prices on ebay to get an idea of price differences on printings (colors).

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I don’t know how much power they have other than “clean things up or else we’re not doing business with you anymore” So hotshot decided not to clean things up and not do business anymore with cgc and to keep the funds they already got. im not sure what other action cgc could/would take

Understandably, most people think that even with a civil/criminal win in court, they may not see anything resembling reimbursement or compensation, and probably not even their books back. I agree with all of this. HOWEVER, the argument for getting involved and documenting (legally/law enforcement/communications) your situation with authorities, are the following (even if each individual complaint only adds a little bit) : 1. It may result in harsher penalties to the criminal/defendant in any eventual legal proceedings. 2. It will make it harder to declare bankruptcy should anyone try it. And make you more likely to be notified of bankruptcy should it be filed. 3. It will make it more likely that law enforcement action will take the complaints more seriously and more quickly. And more likely that law enforcement will notify you should action be taken. 4. While I agree that cash compensation is VERY unlikely, the possibility that some books (or records of the sale of those books) are found either at a property, shop, home, family home, storage facility, vehicle, office, or friends house of the suspect are certainly not zero. The guy has somewhat recently been both giving some books back and trying to (inappropriately) sell others, so it would stand to reason he still has some more of them. Especially when drugs are involved, organizational skills and memory can be lacking. Additionally, there is the chance that some of the books could be found in the course of other local criminal investigations (for example if someone pawned a valuable item or if someone traded an item for other illicit wares), so local PD knowing about the books might have some value. 5. There can be some closure and catharsis with laying out your entire case on paper and just giving to the authorities, so you don't have to think about it any more. You know you've been the victim of a crime, you know you've done what you can, and you can move on. And any other positive results that may come back to you are a bonus. 6. You also don't know what other assets someone has, or who might bail them out, or what assets someone might gain in the future. Get it down on paper officially filed with someone to give yourself the best chance at it. With that being said, it should be pretty easy to find out if a lawyer you're considering dealing with is a real lawyer. If that is a concern of some folks here. If they are a real lawyer, I can't imagine any lawyer would risk their livelihood and license over a case like this trying to scam folks for a guy like Mike D.

Most pressers have pre screening available. Of course there is usually a fee involved

You can look up sold prices on eBay to get a sense of value

I'm not sure if it has been tried yet, but I would think if you emailed/called CGC customer service with direct question about the existence of a specific Provenance/Collection, they would at minimum be able to confirm/deny the existence of the collection, even if they don't provide any other info about it.

Why do you say that? Who knows what he's hidden or what assets he has? strong point. I can understand why it might seem hopeless, but there may be assets that are not known. Or there might be more assets that one might have access to in the future (income, inheritance, lottery). Also getting more victims involved MAY help keep others from being victimized in the future in the way of harsher legal or criminal or civil penalties assessed. For example - not being able to get loans or business licenses or entering other contracts or bankruptcies, or longer sentences (if it gets to that point).

Very generally, if you have a reasonably well-known magazine title, just look it on ebay to see if they have graded copies for sale (or sold). Or if you're a bit more savvy, you can look it up on the CGC census. If they don't have ANY of that title graded, you probably can't get it graded.

I would also add, it appears that cgc is in the process of acquiring a company that DOES do signature authentications. So while CGC DOES NOT DO signature authentications NOW, it is likely that they will start doing it in the next year or so. So if eventually you do intend to submit, it may be in your best interest to wait. Of course that might depend on how quickly you need the money or how sure you are the signature is legit. Dig around for a press release if you want more info on the company acquisition.

Very generally, check in on the signature subforum. Cgc authorized facilitators make announcements about which conventions they attend to get books signed. If one of those facilitators lines up with a preferred guest attendance at a convention you can mail that facilitator your books and have them get the signature for you and then they submit that book to cgc. For a fee, of course.

send them all together, no problem. Make sure the books are separated by tier. The tiers will be separated and graded at different times and by (probably) different people, who 1000% don't care what other books you sent in at what tiers. Note that they won't be sent back together.

You may get an answer here but you may get more answers if you pose this question in the bronze forum. There are some real experts who lurk there.

No official announcement yet that I’ve seen. The official announcement makes it seem like they’ll make an announcement in April with more details

I’d say the novelty would raise the value to me, quite a bit, somewhere 25-50% more depending on condition.

the question is super vague. But in the event that you're trying to scan and upload the contents of each individual comic into any entity/website owned by CGC, that's not a thing. Otherwise, good luck. Consider doing a bit more research about CGC and the forums before asking a more specific question if you still need help. Also, if its a more procedural question consider contacting cgc customer service representatives.

Very generally, any restrictions with respect to a signing are made within the announcement of the signing, especially if what THEY WON'T SIGN is one of their more famous works (Alan Moore comes to mind about what he won't sign, and Rob Liefeld comes mind about what prices he signs for with regards to specific books). At worst, you can always contact the CGC SS event facilitator (in many [but not all] cases its actually CGC) or the signer or their agent about restrictions if you're unsure or just to confirm.

Generally, if you don’t see the option, then it’s not an option. but probably no Harm in contacting cgc customer service and asking your specific questions also there’s a specific cgc signature series email if you dig around on cgc website you’ll find it

They generally don’t set a date until all submissions are in because they don’t know how much time it will take until they know how many submissions there are, so they can plan for transport (if needed), staffing, room, payment, and other logistical issues. For a big movie star (and really most celebrities), 1 hr vs 3 hrs vs 8 hrs is a huge difference in planning. Also this is not an excuse that excuses all the delays and lack of communication

What was the process you went through to become a witness? im surprised they didn’t go through more of this with you as part of the approval process, Because as it stands, it feels like you’re Michael Scott declaring bankruptcy.

I'm certainly no expert, but these does seem to me like an issue with the website. I would consider contacting CGC customer service.