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On 1/29/2024 at 1:17 PM, ADAMANTIUM said:

Just spit-balling but what about people who paid at the height of the market, who's books are now worth less? My inclination of the benefit of the doubt with CGC, is if you bought at the height under the understanding that the CGC label was legit, you'd still get compensated....

I'm not sure that it is the current FMV or like insurance at all, if it is only worth $3000, but you bought it for 5k, I would want the 5k if cgc has any true guarantee  

Right.  When people starting saying Fair Market Value the instance of buying at 2021 prices was brought up.  I would assume if you bought at 1650 and current GPA or GoCollect is 3000 they would give you the 3000.   I would hope the ask for the receipt is in case the movement is the opposite direction.  Though to be honest if they just said they would pay out GPA 90 day average or GoCollect fair market value people who wanted another copy could conceivably go out and buy one in the current market whether the market has gone up or down.  The books manipulated in this way aren’t exactly scarce are they?  (Other than MJ inserts I guess?  No idea, they aren’t in my focus, though to be honest none of the books manipulated in this way are in my focus as far as I know.)

Thank god the thread is finally slowing down.  Gives those of us who came in when the thread was hundreds of pages long a chance to finally catch up.  The concerns I have, other than the myriad of concerns already mentioned are (and if I missed where they were mentioned forgive me.  I’ve tried to read everything, but am sure I missed some posts)

1)  If someone had a way of “manufacturing” green labels and lower grades into blue labels and higher grades wouldn’t that mean that the prices of green labels and lower grades would be artificially inflated and blue labels and higher grades were artificially depressed?  Do we know how many books (other than the vague 350) are possibly involved?  What percentage of the market of specific titles and or issues do they  represent?  Do we need GPAnalysis and GoCollect to somehow note on books that have had a heavy presence that there may be shenanigans in the prices of that issue?  Or do we have to just wait until this blows over to get a feel for the natural level of some of these books.

2)  Again how long this has been going on might be in the threads somewhere, but as someone who has bought only one book in the last couple years it would be nice to know when people in the know think this all started.

3)  Much the same it would sure be nice to know all names/usernames used in this.  At least the people most central to it.  I know everyone is scared of lawsuits.  But I imagine if the perpetrator has a lawyer his concern is elsewhere right now.  I’ve seen one Instagram? EBay? username and one comic shop linked to this but no confirmation.  This only puts those of us NOT in the know at risk.  Especially if there is a board name/board names associated to this.  That would put some of us who use this forum some peace of mind.

4)  Finally, even if there is no information that can be shared at this point from CGC it would be nice to have some kind of timeline to when we might get more information.  As I stated previously I haven’t added to my collection much in years, but prices are finally getting down to where I could think of picking up something again.  Needless to say I’m reluctant to until I know more.

Like most, I’d like to add my kudos to the board and YouTube detectives who have uncovered all this.

On 1/25/2024 at 6:38 AM, Gatsby77 said:

With a $100 million budget, it's 66% cheaper than Rebel Moon, and it lacks the franchise expectations and investment, including planned multimedia tie-ins of books / comic books / podcast / animated show, etc. 

I thought the $166 budget was for part one AND part two.  And I imagine Snyder is doing the extra edits under the same budget?

On 1/25/2024 at 7:41 AM, Bosco685 said:

Netflix filed that concern appropriately as it prepares to release the Director's Cut and sequel. Go figure!

It prepares to release them because it already paid for them?  The real test will be if they greenlight the sequels.  
 

I’ve tried to watch it twice and have not been able to get past the first 15 minutes.  It is, of course, visually stunning.  But seems to be empty calories so far.  Snyder has always seemed to be a wonderful person, an exceptional cinematographer, and a mediocre writer.  I’ll try it again at some point, but I have low expectations of making it through it.

Maybe he’s saying it’s a Qualified FN?  (If you ignore the following major defects it’s a FN?). I don’t think that’s accurate, but might be what he’s getting at?  I don’t know much about Wonder Woman pricing, but it looks like it’s priced in the VG range?

I’ll echo what Dave says.  Especially since you owned a direct market store.  If you want it for nostalgia and not investment (which is the only way I collect) and you were involved in the direct market for years, it seems a no-brainer.  Or are you asking which will hold value/appreciate faster in which case I can’t help you.  But I’m sure @valiantman can.

On 7/27/2023 at 5:23 PM, CAHokie said:

I thought the Byrne Fantastic Four run was supposed to be great? I bought it years ago l to read but never got around to it. Why would he not appreciate fans of the early work?

I imagine it’s two things:

1st it show he peaked early.  No one wants to think their best days are behind them.

2nd his early work he was the penciller.  His later work he tried his hand at writing/pencilling/inking.  

I’m not sure if we are only talking modern comic artists or just non GA comic artists.

On the off chance we are talking any post GA artist I’ll mention one late SA artist and one late BA artist.

For late SA I don’t think there are any better than Jim Steranko.  He has more covers that are designated as classics by Overstreet and CGC than anyone not named Schomburg, Fine, Kirby, or Cole,

For late BA I’d put in Bill Sienkiewicz.  Watching him go from blah standard superhero to his dynamic work on Moon Knight and New Mutants was astounding.

The only thing that hurts these artists is that they both had relatively few covers compared to their contemporaries.

On 1/20/2023 at 10:09 PM, thirdgreenham said:

Sports Action #5 cgc 6.5 CR-OW pages $300

-Canadian Edition

 

 

Good Luck finding a comic collector who is also a Hawkeyes fan.  Well, other than me…

On 1/21/2023 at 7:08 PM, lizards2 said:

On 1/21/2023 at 7:01 PM, crassus said:

I'm guessing he turned down your lowball offer on his Baby Huey registry set...

Greenham is more of Wendy fan.

Actually, when I saw the title of the thread, I thought this would be all Russ Heath.

Andy is okay, I guess.

What’s the grade for the other cover?

I’ll be honest this is way outside my collecting focus.  Do people really pay exponentially more due to how many covers it has?  I thought people who collect multi-cover books just collected due to them HAVING multiple covers.  But again, way outside my focus.

On 12/9/2022 at 9:15 PM, KCOComics said:

The closer pictures do look more like stains and not CT or tear seal. If that's the case, the good news is, it's not restored.

The bad news is, those stains will impact the grade.  It could end up a very pretty 3.5 

I have a similar Hulk 2 

Yeah.  Looks more like small stains.  And you can see the same spots on the cover in a pattern that would suggest stain rather than CT.  I’m at 4.5/5.0 with the general wear, the stains, and the creased lower front cover.  Let us know what you get when it gets back.

I thought maybe Brett Favre had started a comic book publisher.

On 12/1/2022 at 6:25 PM, Hamlet said:

I’m going to start sneaking my drek into other collector’s homes and hiding them while I am there.

I’m going to go with X-Men’s Storm.  Sue was fourth most important person on her own team of four people.  

On 11/4/2022 at 2:20 PM, Straw-Man said:

i feel the same way; simply hoping for the best.   i didn't think keaton was right for batman, either...

WHAT!?!?  They are going to get Mr Mom to play Batman?!?!

On 11/1/2022 at 11:39 PM, THE_BEYONDER said:

On 11/1/2022 at 10:36 PM, KCOComics said:

But you can't reasonably charge $50 an hour....or $10k for 12k comic books. 

If I had 12,000 books & wanted someone else to accurately grade/inventory them, I would gladly pay $1/book for that service 

Yeah, my main take away from this thread is my employer is paying me way too much.

On 10/31/2022 at 12:17 AM, Jaylam said:

If I were a business, I could claim a $1,000 depreciation on it if I at one time valued it at $3,000, right?

As long as you paid the taxes on its increase from 50¢ to $3000.  My point is simply that if you consider comic collecting a hobby (something that money goes into) then you aren’t down anything.  If you consider comic collecting an investment you definitely are down from what your comics were worth.  My 401k is down about 18%.  But definitely above where I got in.  Does that mean my investments haven’t lost value?  Of course not.

On 10/30/2022 at 10:59 AM, Jaylam said:

If I purchased a book in 1980 for $0.50 and sold it today for $2,000 but 6 months ago copies in the same grade were selling for $3,000, did I just lose $1,000?

That depends.  If someone asked you your net worth including collectibles would you value the comic at 50¢ or $2000?

On 9/24/2022 at 2:48 PM, mjoeyoung said:

Thanks for the info.  GA has seemed impervious so far.

Agree to disagree.  I’ve had an All Winners 14 that I’ve dropped from last price to around 15% off the last price over the last half year with no takers.

On 9/21/2022 at 3:47 PM, Bosco685 said:

Let me see. For years folks on here ragged on DC movies repeatedly. Attacked me personally for even appreciating and speaking up with enjoying DC films.

I guess that was okay all those years, but now that Marvel Studios is stumbling with certain productions then we make it a DC fanbase problem? Yeah, you must be right.

I, for one, agreed with your take and tried not to spend too much time harping on movies I didn’t like after that.  I must say, you are probably the one I’m most disappointed in seeing spending so much time and energy on films and studios you don’t like.  That saying I can understand you felt aggrieved and need to take it out and on others.

On 9/21/2022 at 10:16 AM, drotto said:

So much makes sense now.

I'm so-so on Love and Thunder, but now we're rewriting Ragnarok as a bad film as well?

Just so I'm clear, if we dislike something DC does we're to respectfully post our review and then disappear, but we can still rag on anything Marvel makes as much as we want, right?