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I think it will be neck and neck with Hulk 1.
Now I wouldn't say that!
Hulk smash puny Flash! 
Hulk smashes everyone!
SC #4 will definitely be on the rise, but I don't believe it will come close to the levels of IH #1 or AF #15. 
It will get a nice boost if the TV show is a hit though.
Hopefully not too much of a boost, I still have to buy my high grade copy! (thumbs u 
I'm with Dark Knight here. Love all three key books, and value wise, expect SC4 to be on par with the other two. This conversation has been had multiple times, but the crux of it in my view is
SC4 - way more rare, less popular.
Flash show, coupled with a big screen appearance done right will change that.
Look at the cgc census data (9/21/26)
High grade copies (cgc 8.5 or better)
- Showcase 4 (9)
- Incredible Hulk 1 (21)
- Amazing Fantasy 15 (26)
Total Blue/Yellow labels on the CGC census
- Showcase 4 (215)
- Incredible Hulk 1 (812)
- Amazing Fantasy 15 (1567)
Is the flash a more popular a character? no, not overall (not versus hulk or spidey, anyways). But add the rarity.........and the answer seems more clear
We will see in due time Roy! 
All the things you just stated will definitely help SC #4, especially the rarity. However, keep in mind too that IH #1 still has room to grow and just imagine what will happen when Avengers: Age of Ultron drops next year with the Hulk having a more prominent role. Not to mention when he gets his own movie done right. 
If there are two SA books that can contend with AF #15, it is definitely IH #1 & SC #4 with FF #1 also in the mix. Showcase #4 had its chance to reign supreme 15-20 years ago and WB/DC didn't capitalize on the Flash's popularity then and now it has a lot of ground to cover.
I wish SC #4 all the best though, but not until I obtain my high grade copy! I just don't have confidence in WB/DC silver screen adaptations and they have a ways to go to compete with Marvel in that aspect.
I hope they can pull it off though, that will keep the 'rivalry' interesting to say the least. (thumbs u -
I think it will be neck and neck with Hulk 1.
Now I wouldn't say that!
Hulk smash puny Flash! Hulk smashes everyone!
SC #4 will definitely be on the rise, but I don't believe it will come close to the levels of IH #1 or AF #15. It will get a nice boost if the TV show is a hit though.
Hopefully not too much of a boost, I still have to buy my high grade copy! (thumbs u -
I think it will be neck and neck with Hulk 1.
Now I wouldn't say that!
Hulk smash puny Flash! -
Speaking of supply and demand - combative numbers SC 4 vs HULK 1
SHOWCASE 4: UNIVERSAL: 211 QUAL: 3 SS: 2 RESTORED: 92 TOTAL GRADED: 308
HULK 1 UNIVERSAL: 725 QUAL: 16 SS: 72 RESTORED: 276 TOTAL GRADED: 1089
Raemarkable difference. However does this indicate scarcity?
It definitely does indicate scarcity/rarity to me, but those numbers may be irrelevant to most collectors.
Some things that can be factors on what collectors/buyers consider:
1. Demand - IH #1 is definitely in more demand than SC #4, but not by too much. Both the Hulk & the Flash are well known characters, but I believe the Hulk has more iconic status. Both books are very hard to find regardless, especially high grade copies.
2. Investment Potential - IH #1 has shown it's FMV potential with the high dollar recent sales. Showcase #4 FMV will increase as well, but I don't think it will surpass IH #1 value status. It would definitely make things interesting if more of both books in high grade come to market.
3. True 1st Appearance/Origin - While IH #1 is the 1st appearance/origin of the Incredible Hulk, SC #4 is not he 1st appearance/origin of the Flash or the first speedster in comics. Though SC #4 is the book many feel spearheaded the SA including myself, this was one of the main reasons that helped me decide between my purchase of an IH #1 CGC 8.0 and a SC #4 CGC 8.0.
4. Perception - Many collectors seem to gravitate more towards high grade Marvel keys than their DC/WB counterparts. I think this has to do with the recent success of Marvel live action movies and their willingness to promote an amalgam of their heroes, while DC/WB only really focuses on Batman & Superman for the better part of 30+ years. Thank goodness this is going to change. (thumbs u
5. Collection - How much do I want to add either of these books to my collection and in what grade? My grade cutoff for SA books is 8.0, unless the book is too hard to find then I will settle for what I can get.
I love the Hulk more than I do the Flash, but still want to add a nice high grade SC #4 to my collection. I have my sights on one copy in particular, but just need to save more coinage, so stay tuned! This is just a few things I look at when referring/comparing to these two mega key SA books.
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Marvel chipping, on the other hand, is another matter. Those almost always seem to sell at somewhat of a discount.
-J.
Except when the Marvel chipping pertains to certain mega keys.
Jay must've forgot the recent IH #1 CGC 9.0 that sold for 175K! 
I didn't forget. The bigger the key the harder it is to find, the less other "cosmetic" issues seem to matter. That's what I mean when I say the supply and demand within the market will naturally always have the final say. (thumbs u-J.
Cool Beans! (thumbs u I'm glad that you clarified things buddy!
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Marvel chipping, on the other hand, is another matter. Those almost always seem to sell at somewhat of a discount.
-J.
Except when the Marvel chipping pertains to certain mega keys.
Jay must've forgot the recent IH #1 CGC 9.0 that sold for 175K! -
I guess the updating is finished for this year?
Cheers, Howard
I guess Howard! -
I hit the Whitman honey pot today. Scored Chip N Dale 67, Looney Tunes 35, Woody Woodpecker 190; Porky Pig 97,109 (75 cent variant) Tom and Jerry 330 and 332, Huey Dewey and Louie 65, Tweety and Sylvester 106, 107, Yosemite Sam 70; Popeye 158, Little Lulu 260, Daffy Duck 130, Beep Beep the Roadrunner 92, Bugs Bunny 221, Donald Duck 222. Wallt Disney Comics and Stories 480; Uncle Scrooge 179 and Superman 348. Could not believe my eyes as they all came out of the same box. None are high grade ( a couple could hit the VF -not the Scrooge) but an incredible find.
Congrats on a nice little find! (thumbs u
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Now is the time to start picking up those copies of Whiz 1. If you can find one!
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He probably would make a better Black Adam (villain) than Captain Marvel (hero). Especially since Hercules was a major flop.
But would he really? Could Dwayne Johnson pull off that villain persona to carry Black Adam?
I could see him pulling off the boyishness of Captain Marvel while being this massive figure.
I'm not saying he is an Academy Award level actor by no means.
I just feel playing a villain may come more easier & natural to him than a hero. I guess the best way to gauge this would be to watch his movies as both and decide which one he is best at.
WB/DC must be satisfied with him as choice, even though we are in the dark about which character he will play. I believe it will be Black Adam though.
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The article states, "Siempre he estado interesado en dos personajes en toda mi carrera, han sido mis favoritos desde niño: Linterna Verde y Black Adam... ¡Creo que acabamos de adelantar el anuncio!"
which means, "I've always been interested in two characters my entire career, and they've been my favorites since I was a kid: Green Lantern and Black Adam . . . I think we should speed up the announcement!"
My bet is he will portray Black Adam.
He probably would make a better Black Adam (villain) than Captain Marvel (hero).
Especially since Hercules was a major flop. -
Get that stupid Nu52 design out of the first post. Classic should be front and center.
Peace,
Chip
+1 (thumbs u
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Could they do it like DC did with the comics? Call the movie "Shazam" but call the character in the movie "Captain Marvel"?
I sure hope that's the route that they're going.
That would be fine by me and probably most fans of the character. (thumbs u -
To bad they can't go back to calling him Captain Marvel. Shazam is such a hokey name. He sounds like a character from Aladdin.
I agree it's more than hokey, it's stupid & will be confusing for those who don't know the characters history.
Shazam is the wizard that gave Captain Marvel his powers and the hero should be called by his true name, but I know Marvel would have a hissy fit if WB/DC used that name.
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It ended up selling for $643 including shipping.
I was thinking about bidding on this book, but don't want a copy with David Peterson's signature on the front cover unless it's an actual SS book.
Also, the signature didn't look like the "real deal" to me. Not to say it wasn't, just to me. Mostly all of the David Peterson sigs I've seen has the (-) in the front of it just to point out one anomaly.
I'm still in the hunt for a copy though! (thumbs u
The signature is legit - it's a good example of an early signature of his.
Oh okay. (thumbs u I didn't want a GLOD anyhow.
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I didn't win any other the Flash book on Heritage last night but I think there were some decent deals on some of those later issues.
I did however get this which I think can fit in this thread.
Nice! (thumbs u RM pedigree & white pages to boot!
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:o :o Any of you guys snag some of those Don/Maggies last week? I got outbid on 2. They were all gorgeous.
I did buy 1. -
wow!
Thanks! (thumbs u
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here is my last pick up. used sellers scan, but will update shortly
Nice copy! 1st Giganta & Cheetah B2B scans! Awesome!
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Here is my new Wonder Woman key addition to my collection!
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this awesome cover! -
Here is my new Wonder Woman key addition to my collection!
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this awesome cover! 
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I really want to get my hands on Western Penn Flash for my run. Another gorgeous pedigree.
Your talking serious $$$ there!
Yeah, probably going to have to pick up one of the non key issues. I would of loved that WP #140 that came up on clink a few months ago, but way too much for me.
I have been looking for a nice #140 but I have not seen any recently.
Yeah I remember that one. It was a very nice #140 PC pedigree!
That's why I jumped on my #139 when I did. It's high grade key & a pedigree book, don't get much better than that!
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I really want to get my hands on Western Penn Flash for my run. Another gorgeous pedigree.
Your talking serious $$$ there!
Hulk smash puny Flash! 
SC #4 will definitely be on the rise, but I don't believe it will come close to the levels of IH #1 or AF #15. 
Hopefully not too much of a boost, I still have to buy my high grade copy! (thumbs u 
We will see in due time Roy! 
All the things you just stated will definitely help SC #4, especially the rarity. However, keep in mind too that IH #1 still has room to grow and just imagine what will happen when Avengers: Age of Ultron drops next year with the Hulk having a more prominent role. Not to mention when he gets his own movie done right. 
I hope they can pull it off though, that will keep the 'rivalry' interesting to say the least. (thumbs u 
I love the Hulk more than I do the Flash, but still want to add a nice high grade SC #4 to my collection. 
Jay must've forgot the recent IH #1 CGC 9.0 that sold for 175K! 
:o 
this awesome cover!
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