Aweandlorder

I think that at this point, eBay is the center for comic book pricing. Definitely with books from 70s-current. Anything that goes anywhere else, for the most part, will draw value from eBay. When I go on IG, FB groups, yard-sales, cons, LCS or craigslist to look for finds, I always compare prices to eBay recently sold (if Im not aware of a book's value) The only exception would be Amazon with TPB/HCs

I know that this aint it, but still a good deal for a beater: http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Amazing-Spider-Man-16-Sep-1964-Marvel-GD-Low-Grade-/232239430723?hash=item36128c7c43%3Ag%3Ab-QAAOSwB-1Yolqf&nma=true&si=vdm0gutAhaAQW7Fj2b5K455SZ1U%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Didnt know where to put this pic, but I thought this thread's topic seemed about right.. So can anyone tell me who these 2 stud muffins are?

K so awhile ago I saw these ashcans at FP for a buck or 2, I couldnt resist and got a few copies... I wrote the artist and asked for the print run and he said he had a 1,000 of them made and they quickly sold out.. Now, D&Q are releasing this as a treasury edition with added material scheduled for November..

They're back

Still going strong http://www.ebay.com/itm/Captain-Marvel-1-Adam-Hughes-Variant-CGC-Certified-9-8-Super-rare-/172549470782?hash=item282cbffa3e:g:LgMAAOSwr~lYsaWY

Fake news! It was the Russians!!

You know the market is slow af when people get stupid in this thread

Look the point is this. Raw grading existed all this time with pre-screening. You just never got a grade for it. I really dont see any reason why CGC wouldnt offer a grade for raw grading if people wanted to have that option

Thats that's what I meant. Pre-screen of books from 75 and up. Unless things have changed I don't remember them pre screening older books

And likewise. Not to be too picky or play the guess game. But since were all guessing than I will add that pre screen is offered to moderns only, and if I was to guess than most people who use the pre-screen option are more advanced than your average clueless joe subbing a turok #1 in 4.5 expecting a 10.00. I would think that theres a great deal of attention to detail when it comes to pre-screening a 9.8 and since thats probably the desired grade by most when pre-screening I would argue that it probably takes an average of a minute+ to inspect a 9.8 candidate. Probably more (as well as it should!)

CGCs fee is $5 for STRICTLY grading a book. Thats a fact. When you send in a book to get it pre-screened it costs $5 when it doesnt meet the the threshold you set.

Absolutely. What about all the money you will save on shipping? surprised no one mentioned that.. Thats like 50% of value with some moderns.

Im not here to argue things both you and I dont have practice in. Lets just agree with my early assessment: The slab makes this process more time consuming. Thats just a fact

Yes sure. Its very simple to place a book in a slab. No problemo I can guarantee you no harm will come from it if placed poorly. None at all

Think about it.. The slab is what makes this process more time consuming.. Bulkier.. And, I hate to say it but as we noticed in the past, even more dangerous. Get rid of the slab for this tier and everyone's happy

people keep referring to the "other guys" as reference to what this service should or should not be. Dont Simple.. Keep the grading system the same. Minus the slab. I can see where restoration inspection could be more tedious.. maybe offer 2 tiers then? Theres many ways to go about it

I didnt start this thread to promote other companies services that CGC doesnt offer. Thats just wrong thinking. There are many things CGC wisely doesnt offer which make perfect sense to me. I started this thread because its been something Ive been thinking about for a long time after seeing exuberant amounts of slabbed drek poured into the market that NO ONE benefited from. Not the seller submitting the books, not the buyer, not the collector society, not CGC.. NO ONE. Driving a car to work 2 minutes away from you in a busy district serves NO ONE any good when you have cheap public transportation available. Same logic applies here.

Again, this service would be great for moderns and non keys, books which most likely would make for great flips but not mega key PC candidates. Unfortunately, the state of the market is such that dedicates a big portion of grading to such books. I doubt that scammers would waste time tempering with such books but thats just me

Spoken like a pro

A. Not everyones a scammer. Dismissing a service because 1-10% of its userbase will use it to exploit it is irrelevant. B. It is protected with an unbreakable seal. So not so easy to remove without a trace.

Agree 100% thats why I said earlier that its interesting to speculate whether such an option, if successfully implemented, could take away from the value of slabs or books in general. Btw, for all those arguments presented here so far against such an option - this is not an issue of REPLACING the current grading process or a question of "whats better", but simply, is it wise to ADD such an option...

For someone who is extremely picky with grades I can see how this will not make sense, at any cost, even for a dollar per book. But judging by the market, most people grade books to sell online. Furthermore, most buyers buy raw books online. Now. Assuming the seller is reputable enough, youd get an accurate grade for a book you purchase online. Add these 2 sentiments together: Reputable grader+inexpensive service=better profit margin. So, this will make PERFECT sense to sellers, not so much to the collector (although some collectors would prefer that service as well)

I dont see anything wrong with it. The only thing thats worth speculating on is whether or not this will be so successful with moderns that it may take a toll on traditional grading in the long run.

Here are some things to consider; Space, shipping, costs, fragility In all the above cases, the sealed mylar has an advantage. While a case provides more protection, it has far greater risks to break when transporting/storing. And we all know how effective a damaged slab is in terms of value. And again, this is not to say that I would rather have an IH181 9.8 in a mylar as opposed to a protective case, but I wouldnt mind paying $5-10 for any high grade modern with little value. In fact, Im sure that any grading company would benefit from offering this service in terms of added business