Aweandlorder

Definitely definitely get Untamed Love (fantagraphics 1987) its in comic format and has 4-5 classic short stories there. Im not aware of any book that compiled just the short stories he did. But theres probably one out there. Side note. Frazetta did TONS of work ghosting comic strips as you mentioned (lil abner, flash gordon etc) and alot of short stories (Durango Kid, Lovers Lane etc) and of course Thunda 1. So its all over the place really. If I were to chase comic work he did I would mainly focus on those around 1953-1954, as in my opinion, those are some of the best brush work finishes I have ever seen in comic format. Im still looking for pieces of my brain which was blown many many years ago when I first saw these

Bravo. Im glad Im not the only one that was heavily influenced by this Frazetta piece. To me Frazetta The Living Legend was a game changer. Its not a comic book, but it has many of his 50s comic covers in there. At the time I was reading and drawing tons and never really knew of Frazetta. My friend's dad had this book and he jokingly said, here, why dont you draw women like that (I was 10 at the time) and I was fukin blown away. I started chasing Frazetta books and couldnt find any.. Then one day I went to the library and there they had 2 massive EC books. One of which had Squeeze Play (SSS #13). I ended up going to that library a thousand times just copying each and every panel my teachers thought I was going there for homework I didnt know about Untamed Love until it was released by Fantagraphics along other great Frazetta stories. That book shows you EXACTLY where such masters as Dave Stevens, Mark Schultz, Sandy Plunkett and many many others got their chops from. Kudos to you for mentioning this one

All your talking point were countered already in my previous replies. Read again

Haha all good fun Bird Im not running a crusade here. there are just 2 things that always bothered me though. Its one thing that readers arent aware of Adams influence on modern mainstream comic art, the other is, and most bothersome, the fact that Liefeld & Mcfarlane never really admitted that they took so much from him as they should. I can understand why they havent in the past because they were both competing in the same market. But now, 20-30 years later, pay a little respect for the man. Sad

Here are just a few excerpts online that will help you understand Art Adams' influence on McFarlane, Lee & Liefeld. This is a VERY well known FACT, clouded by clueless readers who didnt collect during the 80s and do not know of the TREMENDOUS influence that Adams had on these artists. He is in no shape or form more popular than them. Its just sad that it got to the point where people nowadays are not even aware of this http://www.cbr.com/art-adams-longshot-image-is-something/ https://www.revolvy.com/main/index.php?s=Arthur+Adams+(comics) And this, although sarcastically written by a hobbyist, actually talks about why comic books look so bad today.. All because of one Art Adams http://geniusboyfiremelon.blogspot.com/2008/01/dont-you-know-its-all-art-adamss-fault.html

Comparing modern Golden or modern AAdams to McFarlane is just plain ignorant. Simply put. If you werent reading/collecting comics in the 80s, anything that I write here would NOT make sense to you. ANYTHING

You don't have to like either artists to know that Golden has influenced Arthur Adams (alongside Walt Simonson) who in turn GREATLY influenced (to put it modestly) Mcfarlane. Perfect example is Spider-Man's spaghetti web which McFarlane is famous for and many to this day think that he has created. Which is in fact, is a Golden creation

Just finished episode 6 THIS MINUTE and rushed to post this in here. As usual, you beat me to it. All i can say is WOW. What a great cover of an already classic classic song

That bottom staple though

Id restore the body. Not the sign/s

Its the "missing puzzle piece 1:499 variant. This is gonna be a yuuuuge trend with modern variant covers now... YUUUUGE

Absolutely this. I can name you a few brilliant breakthrough writers who excelled in the medium just this decade than any noticeable artist. And it most certainly is due to the fact that there is more reward in intellectual property licensing than a beautifully rendered piece of art. If we'd draw comparison to the music biz, the big money is made in song writing in regards to intellectual property licensing as opposed to production. Another reason why art is declining is the obvious fact that theres more emphasis on digitally produced art than ever before. Its not as pronounced with mainstream comics you get at your LCS (although an integral part of it still) as it is with independent comics offered digitally online. For example, 70-80% of kickstarter comics never left the computer screen, and some of the stuff offered there gets alot of attention among readers. This may not affect readers and collectors now, but if this becomes a normal trend you would see less and less independent artists take to the desk and brush than even 2 decades ago

Good

W respect. Comparing Mcfarlane to the Beatles (at ANY capacity) is a stretch wouldnt you think? I would compare him to Kiss before I did the Beatles.. They both DIDNT create a new style of music/art, but they certainly were marketing geniuses. Anyways, my apologies if I derailed this thread off topic to concentrate on McFarlane as opposed to (I think) Wrightson. So heres a book I think everyone who appreciates both great comic book artists and Bernie Wrightson should own. Now more than ever:

Either you need to work on your pic skills or that is some serious trimming! I kid i kid... congrats

And for the record (I know I wont be able to persuade you to believe me but.. For the record) Art Adams became a fan favorite by many artists within 2-3 years.. If that

Actually Neal Adams was considered a threat by many artists in his time, being that he had adapted Photorealism techniques. And if you look at many of the greats that you and me mentioned, one thing that puts them together as a group of influential artists was just that - innovation. Sure, cats like Kubert, Buscema, Romita are a cut above the norm in terms of productivity and skills in the genre. But Eisner, Miller, Adams, Frazetta.. They thought outside the box.. They treated comic book as art and by doing so impacted and influenced others. And they in fact did that in a period of a few short years... Certainly not over a decade

Iron Fist Del'otto variant

Agreed on Ross. Well done

I think that the focus should be on who has been influential in the past 2-3 decades.. Not trying to win argument points here, just trying to make this topic relevant to the lack of artistic INFLUENTIAL talent in modern comic book art.. To demonstrate: C. C. Beck, Kirby, Frazetta, Kurtzman, Eisner, Adams (both Neal & Art), Miller... These are the names of some comic book greats who have shaped and made comic books look and read the way they do today. I fail to see ONE artist or storyteller who has had equal influential strength on others in modern history. There are plenty of good artists who's art is respected in the medium. Not one of them is revolutionary

I think that nowadays the focus is on covers more than interior art. most of today's covers are what sell the book. The last time I read and marveled at a comic book's art from cover to cover was during the Pacific run of Twisted Tales and Alien World.

Art Adams STILL owns the comic book art form by inspiring such commercial giants as mcfarlane, liefeld Larsen and Lee among dozens others who in turn made comic book art look the way it does today

Absolutely nonsense. A great artist is not measured by the amount of books he or she put out. Nor by his or her great business ethics. They are only measured by one aspect - their influence on the artform. And if you think that McFarlane wasn't influenced by AAdams or Golden, then me and you didn't grow up in the same times my friend

Where are the modern day Kaluta's, BWS, Brunner, Corben, Moebius.. whats sadder than the fact that there's no GREAT new talent, is the fact that the artistic gods of our past have been long forgotten