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Well if that's what you think than that's all that matters really

Im not comparing the two. Im just stating historical facts; Adams created an army of imitators. One of them was McFarlane Its not as if McFarlane was the ONLY one who copied Art's spaghetti web-slinging spidey, exaggerated grins, thin lined white-out muscle curves along silhouette figures and pretty much any and every texture Art championed with his style... They ALL did that at the time. Art was just slow because he insisted on drawing as close to perfect as he could using that style. Others borrowed all of his tricks and ran to the green with it

Yup Mcfarlane is a clever business man, made all the right moves and earned big on his gambles. Pity he never gave Art any credit for imitating his style. A lil disrespectful if youre asking me, but I guess my biased opinions are getting in the way with that assessment

Did the kid look like this? sorry couldnt resist

Haha fair assessment, however Frazetta has influenced just as many comic book artists as Aadams had and although I agree that Frazetta comes from a whole new school and progressed to an even higher class through his paintings, his comic work during 53-54 could compare to Aadams 86-88 years by originality of style and design. whether one approves of one or the other is obliviously a matter of taste, but it is unquestionable that both artists have equally impacted the industry if only because of their influence on others

I dont need to know anything about cards in order to comprehend that an investigation is pending within that industry that relates to practices that are taking place in our hobby as well. Im not saying its gonna happen to CGC, or PGX, or anyone else, I only know it causes reasons of concern. Did you read the article about Halperin's history?

Adams borrowed a lot of elements from Anime/manga which explained his cartoonish side and attention to details with tech/industrial drawings (which happened a lot earlier in his career) with it he borrowed (and I mean that term lightly, because everyone has someone that inspires them) elements from Golden, Simonson & Leonardi. But his art was at a league of its own. You could tell an Art Adams from pretty much anyone else just by seeing a doodle. By 1988 everyone started copying AAdams, but they mostly did it with embellishment. Mcfarlane copied his style and paid zero attention to structure or anatomy, Liefeld copied Adams grotesque/anime features and distorted it even more. Jim Lee in my mind is the only guy that really captures Adams style and built on it evenly. But there's no denying that Adams was the only one that made it better, since he never really cared for speeding up his work in order to make it the commercially successful career that the others did. Eventually, that "business approach" was what made all of Art's imitators rise to the top. And Adams always stayed in the back with the history that unfortunately never really worked in his favor as the single most influential artist in the modern comic book era

Not too sure what you relate to there We're talking about speculation about market crash. The theories developed in the thread I linked above talk about pending federal investigation in the card industry. That's happening NOW It further points out that a very credible person who's involved in our very hobby has been slapped several times with charges of market manipulation in the coin industry. Its easy to connect the dots here, no need to throw anyone under the bus. This is not an us vs them speculation theory discussion. If the Feds turn their attention to the comic book collection industry we may all suffer from this collectively

Some of the finer points are discussed in this thread:

I forsee a major market crash from illicit market practices much sooner than one caused by spec gambling inflation

Thank you for testing it comicwiz, btw enjoyed reading your "crack, press & resub" thread. Thank you for your detailed insight on the matter

Adams Classic X-Men cover run is where Adams shine. Those were the modern day version of Frazetta's Famous Funnies covers to many who studied him. And there were BOATLODS of imitators including some of the most biggest names in the industry; Lee, Mcfarlane, Larsen, Campbell, Lim just to keep the list short. The elevated waists, counter-arched back, high cheek-bones, pouting lips or huge grin full of teeth, fine detailed hair-do's, busy backgrounds vs empty spaced composition pockets, were some of Adams signature style giveaways. Prior to 1987 it was very easy to distinguish Art's style from the rest even by looking at a tiny half inch sample offering from a preview catalog. No one else did it like him.

That's your indication of crazy? i have a whole thread dedicated to drek heating up and that's the best examples y'all can find???

Although I started this thread regarding a different flaw on the eBay platform, it does seem that there is no longer a 3rd party service (IE Watchcount etc.) that reports actual sold listings price after best offer was accepted.

It certainly seems like the winner in the contest so far, if not a well distanced front runner

If CGC finds out that a T changed to I they would grade it a P ...L. O. D.

So very true. Growing up with Art Adams books was an exciting and amazing period. Annual #9 was the first Art Adams book I bought, and it truly is a work of art, NM special Ed of course was amazing as well, but I think that the ink work on XMA9 set it over the top. it was my art bible growing up back then when I used to draw. The artwork was the best Ive seen since the Frazetta Famous Funnies covers series.

This will complete your spidey DVD package: im not even joking. I first took notice of this when Stan died and this CGC copy appeared on the bay. It sold for almost 600

Not likely, but massive book right there, and not just bcs of the cover

The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long, and you have burned so very very brightly, Rutger

And btw.. your mom rocks!

Read comico primer 2 then the mini 1-3 then Mage 6-14 rinse and repeat. The rest isn't the same ps- may as well get mage #1-15 since it's Matt's finest work