circumstances

did you send in all your Centaurs, or did you keep some?

On 10/2/2022 at 11:23 AM, comicjack said:

I was lucky many years ago to get a raw copy one tough book in decent condition 

i hope the graders are in a good mood the day i send mine in!

On 9/30/2022 at 7:43 AM, CWill2021 said:

Perhaps, THIS is the real  Poor Man's Action Comics #1...   

Much closer!

Why?

He's touching automobiles?

On 9/21/2022 at 11:16 AM, NIDECATGUT said:

LOVE THIS!

Thanks!

Just checked, still zero!

On 9/20/2022 at 11:48 PM, lou_fine said:

Well, I guess we have some idea now as these are the Graders Notes for this Larson copy of AMF V2 #5:  

Grader Notes

Left Top Front Cover Pedigree Coding/Marking
Top Spine Small Spine Split
Top Staple Small Tear
Top Staple Weak

Since this book was graded back in 2015, it makes me wonder if the prior grading team saw pedigree coding as a defect and the new grading team under Matt Nelson who came on board as CGC Primary Grader from his prior role as CCS President in 2016 did not view these pedigree markings as a negative when it came to the final grade?    

As a vintage comic book collector, all I know is that I would much rather have a pedigree book that exhibited their signature pedigree code markings (as long as they are small and unobtrusive) since I view them as a positive or a plus to the book like this Larson 80 recall code, and not so much as a negative or a defect to the book.    

thanks for the info.

#2, 3 and 4 make sense, as none are visible in the scan.

On 9/20/2022 at 7:44 PM, lou_fine said:

Another Centaur that did real well was this copy of AMF V2#5 as my high bid from this morning did a sexturple by the time it was all said and done:  

https://www.comicconnect.com/item/967640

Closed with a bid of $30,500 which came out to a final price of $35,075 which represented an almost 50% ROI on the $23,655 that this Larson copy sold for back in 2019.  Definitely a much stronger return than the huge negatives which we have seen on 37 of the 43 Promise Collection books that have come back into the marketplace on their second go round to date so far.  

Looks like a nice 9.0. Wonder what brought it down.

On 9/20/2022 at 12:57 PM, Robot Man said:

Yeah, swap meets and flea markets were loaded with cheap vintage comics in the LA area. I remember trolling the Rose Bowl with Jamie Newbold and Ski. We often split up collections amongst ourselves. I remember getting my Reform School Girl, an All Star #4 and lots of ECs and PCH there.

I made lots of flea market finds in the 1970s.

Quarter books, 50 cent books, dollar books.

There was one guy who would set up every week.

He had a big three ring notebook with dozens of plastic sleeves that he'd always put out on one of his tables.

In each sleeve, back to back, was 1950s horror and Sci fi comics (except EC).

Dozens of them. Brain Bats of Venus and the like. All in nice shape.

I loved them, but the prices were exorbitant. $12, $15, $18. Brain Bats was $35!

I tried on numerous occasions to buy the whole binder, or to get more reasonable prices on individual books or groups of books. I don't think he ever budged on price.

I can't recall him ever selling anything at those prices in those days.

Wonder what ever happened to them/him.

On 9/20/2022 at 12:56 PM, N e r V said:

Me too. I only have posted stuff here when I signed up in 2011 because when I buy it now it’s already scanned. I am not going back and scan my stuff.

 

I took a bunch of crappy photos with a cellphone when I joined!

No scanner.

On 9/20/2022 at 6:26 AM, jimbo_7071 said:

There are way more than a few. Many people here slab books and submit books to CGC. I think some people here forget that the vast majority of second-owner collections are still raw. There are plenty of guys wo built up second-owner collections in the 60s, 70s, and 80s who basically stopped buying but didn't sell and may never sell.

Me! Compiled from 1975 to the late 1990s when I stopped.

100% raw, baby!

On 9/11/2022 at 6:02 PM, RareHighGrade said:

I don't know, but a book from the collection just sold last week for $90K in the HA auction.

This has to bode well for my copy!

On 9/12/2022 at 2:25 PM, lou_fine said:

 

Do you guys still remember what that first book was and if you still have it in your personal collection to this day?  

Thor #233 off the rack at a convenience store on Bird Road in Miami in January, 1975.

It is probably still around here somewhere.

First golden age books were from Jay at Sparkle City at my first comic convention, Phil Seuling's July 4th show in NYC, 1978.

Human Torch 12 and World's Finest 9. I no longer have either comic.

On 9/19/2022 at 1:14 PM, Robot Man said:

There are still tons of "unknown" copies still out there un accounted for...

of course, but i find the book to book comparisons to be fascinating (among many other things in the census counts).

On 9/17/2022 at 3:10 PM, Yorick said:

With modern books like these, what are the lowest grades shown on the census?

X-men 1 (1991): lowest is 3.0, and more than half are at 9.8 or above.

Superman 75 (1993): lowest is 4.0, and nearly half of the graded copies are 9.8.

Spawn 1 (1992): lowest is 0.5 (not sure what's going on there...), but just about half are at 9.8 or above.

While there are those oddball low grades (maybe someone's sentimental copy or a sketched cover), GENERALLY people won't submit the book unless it is a high grade copy.  It's what City Duck is saying:

And Circumstance is echoing that view:

So my assumption was that the thread had meant to be an indicator of "rare" books, but it turned out not to be (but also can be).  Which is interesting as it's own topic.  I am glad for this thread existing.

If I were to create a thread topic based on what I believe the initial motivation for the thread was, I'd make it something like "Gerber 9+ GA".  BUT, that would be a very slow thread as there wouldn't be many postings, and someone would have to make a listing of those particular Gerber books so other members know which issues to post.

We probably have uncovered some things Ernie thought were 7, 6, 5, that might should have been 8s and 9s!

(I didn't look them up, but the war year Champs, Prizes, Blue Ribbons, Speeds, etc. are probably 5s and 6s).

On 9/16/2022 at 2:04 PM, sfcityduck said:

To me, this thread graphically illustrates why the census is not necessarily an indicator of rarity for books. For a lot of GA books folks just don't want to pay money to encapsulate them because it is not worth it. The irony of this thread is that a lot of people are showing pics of raw comics that they don't intend to encapsulate. In contrast, you've got pedigrees that were likely encapsulated because they are pedigrees and the owner wanted to preserve the provenance. But, for example, there are five Tarzan 76s on eBay for prices that just don't warrant encapsulation (1 is in the $60 range, the others are less than $20). Is Tarzan 76 rare or scarce? I don't think so. It is unlikely to be encapsulated? Yes ... unless there's a good reason like it is an extremely high grade or to preserve provenance (and yours is both).

i'm happy to see everybody's stuff, but my thought when creating the thread was on comics that would generally get submitted and graded (not inexpensive stuff that doesn't really merit it).

what i didn't anticipate was posting stuff in 2017, then the fun of looking back years later and seeing how many (if any) had been slabbed in the interim.

the "over time" aspect is almost as interesting as the "initial posting" numbers! (to me)

love this book

remember to post new GA acquisitions in the pinned thread at the top:

and if there are 10 or fewer copies on the CGC census (like your Hit #42) post them in my thread:

Welcome back, Marty!

When is/was the con?

Did you trade for a ton of cool EC?

On 8/23/2022 at 9:45 AM, AJD said:

If you are going to try to trade with dealers/vendors, be prepared to get less value from your books than you would if you sold them. My advice would be to sell them here on the boards for FMV or a little less, where the pain and fees are minimised. A dealer might go as low as 50% value.

Cash is king.

If you go this route and sell your books first, you might be able to negotiate some cash deals on  the ECs you find at the Con.

Some dealers are more likely to wheel and deal than others.

On 8/15/2022 at 3:06 AM, Tri-ColorBrian said:

You know the Jungle 98 is an SOTI book, right?

Shoulder vag!

One of my first SOTI books.

On 8/8/2022 at 8:09 PM, goldenacase said:

this just came...and this thread needs a bump

Shweet!

On 7/26/2022 at 3:57 PM, IngelsFan said:

This is probably my favorite thread on the boards, and I’m always happy when I can contribute to it.

Thank you!

And thanks for contributing! Great comic.

On 7/21/2022 at 5:01 PM, lou_fine said:

Yes, there is, as you must be referring to the Overstreet Hall of Fame cover for this year's edition of the Guide:  

https://scoop.previewsworld.com/Home/4/1/73/1017?articleID=257347

i like it! it's between this one and the EC for me.

is there a black terror cover, or was that another year?