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I dont like when people say CK is overrated for the simple reason that a lot of its greatness is in how mind blowingly ground breaking it truly was. Those track shots where he dug out the floor to allow that upward perspective, back when most films were just a stationary camera pointed at some random groups of people talking. The part with Kane and his wife slowly sitting further and further apart at breakfast, the conversation becoming more and more stilted and cold over the years. Most films tried to tell the story from straight up dialogue and over the top narrative. Welles decided to actually just SHOW you the world and didnt explain it all to you, but let you figure it out for yourself. The use of shadow, everything in focus, camera movement, this film just rewrote all the rules. The reasons for this films greatness are legion, we just lose perceptive on it because so much of what we watch now is based on his innovation....so much so that it seems commonplace and boring. But the never ending list of innovations he and his crew came up with for that movie alone puts it in a category all its own.

Been hearing this movie is a solid 7 outta 10 movie and the professional reviews seem to back that up. Looking like this movie will come in somewhere top 7 or 8 all time for Marvel movie openings and top 15 for overall critical reception. Solid double by Marvel, they just never seem to fail. They layer their movies well, perfect placement on the release date should be able to go into next week unchallenged by anything. Not sure if this is Billion dollar range but its gotta come close. Also, Brie's commentary was well thought out to help generate buzz and get both sides of the argument jumping. All press is good press. The Marvel Money Machine keeps on rolling, CHOO CHOO!

I would doubt this item very much. I've seen a lot of items like this come out recently. Ive never heard of the SDCC artist association. Do they have a website or a list of publicly verified members? Anyone know of this James Simey (looks like that anyway)? Anyone ever heard of him as someone working with show promotion or Comic art production? Does the COA in anyway shape or form tie itself to this specific piece of art? Is there contact information for this group you can validate their COA with? A COA is just a piece of paper, you can design as many as you want on a standard paint app on your PC. They mean nothing on their own. It's the organization, item specific referencing, and the guarantee behind them that add any sort of value. Answer those questions, then proceed with the buy. For what its worth also, just looking at the piece it looks very odd. A better photo would probably help.

i bid when they put stuff in auction, specifically heritage. I just like the idea of buying a piece off them for market price or maybe a little under if it falls through.

Agree I think to disagree. Simply moving venues with no price controls and trusting in your market knowledge I think doesn't count for flipping. Same goes for buying a stock you feel is undervalued and then selling later for more. (Also in this specific case this thread is about folks failing at buying items for market and trying to force a ridiculous premature price raise on it, which on no level describes what I did or what happened)

I dont think this should be on this thread really. Full disclosure I bought this and sold on HA, but I think the point of this is to call out really egregious aggressive mindless ramp up cash grabs. This item was poorly listed and i got it for less then 1/2 price. I tried even offering it on CAF like I always do for less than market (and 1/2 of what it sold for) but only got some low level tire-kick interest. It was only then that I put it into a better auction with no reserve. I don't think this is a "flip", I trusted my instincts and invested in something. If you go from auction to auction no reserve I don't think its a flip, at least not one needing to be called out as such.

It was in the wrong market for one and it was undersold at the time to boot. That was mine, I knew it had a LOT of way to go. You find pieces like that. Overall I was thrilled with my sales this auction.

Nope, pass.

Whoever donated it, I wonder if they got a heck of an adjustment to income on their taxes. If it was Stan Lee, would 2008 have been a big windfall year for him?

The schulz looks right to me.

You sure about this Mike? Those sales were like 15 years before the art was donated , right? Long time in between and im sure Ditko has made it clear he didnt care about what happened to his art and that it was the publishers to do with as they pleased.

Came in a collection i bought, falls under historic so i figured id post here. The accusation page from the end of Avengers Annual 10 by Golden. https://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=1526553

Am I like the only person even trying to watch this show? I made it through the 2nd season premier but i just gave up on episode 2. At least it sorta felt trek like a little which doesnt happen much in this show. Its funny i like alternate "what if" comics but an alternate trek just feels off.

He was doing great work in the 2000's ,

In theory than is any appraisers opinion worthless unless they offer to buy it around that price? And on the other side if they make an offer with their evaluation wouldn't that cause you to feel a little suspect about their "price appraisal" in the first place?

No, my point is FMV is an imaginary and ever changing number so its not fair to base any reading on market health on it. I asked multiple sources, and it became clear some knew more than others. I ask usually to see if they might have some hidden insight or knowledge about a piece of art i wasn't aware of, and if they do to get their impression of value. I didn't waste my time at all because I learned no one has seen a piece like this sell in 4 years, and that the general opinion was it was to uncommon to try and move normally and that it really should be an auction item (which i'm sure it will be). You aren't being snarky IMO anyway, this is just the way you communicate with others. You mean no harm, you just tend to be a little strident in how you communicate at times. I value your opinion and wouldn't engage if i didn't.

See I don't think that proved the point, at least the one I was speaking about. (on a side note, i also explained i just wanted an estimate for it and not an offer because i don't want any conflict of interest when i ask your price opinion. And if you do make an offer im always a little unsure how to proceed or take your evaluation). "As always, in collectibles especially, the easiest gauge for true bullishness is seeing what a dealer will pay cash on the spot for your collection. When there are many more buyers than sellers and dealer inventories are thin...the percentage they will pay approaches 100% of fmv (as measured by recent auction comparatives). After all, who wouldn't buy and sell privately at 90% to flip immediately at 110%, especially when short term bank safety isn't paying more than a few points, even in a rising rate environment. Right? But who is paying 90% cash? N O B O D Y professional. The wider the gap, the more bs is stinkin' up the whole room " Since FMV can wildly swing based on the who is determining it, how can anyone determine FMV and what 80-90% of it is? Especially on rare items where a sale might not have occurred in 4-5 years for anything similar to it (publicly or acknowledged privately)? My point is simple, We cant use the notion of FMV when it comes to comic art so basing any judgements on what someone might pay against that imaginary value i think isn't helpful. Since this isn't a regulated market with set prices where no item can be 100% accurately priced due to every item being unique we cant judge the health of the market based on what people will pay based on this imaginary number. Even if a dealer feels in their heart an item is worth 1000 dollars and they would put that on their site, no one would want to pay 900$ for it without it being pre-sold. What if the right buyers for it don't see it, or there are other items that come out of the woodwork that day that takes their dollar? It might take a year or two to make that sale. For many thats not a slam dunk buy and its just tying up money. You know what really i think might have more of an effect then this all being some sort of scheme? That folks are conditioned now to only buy items in public auctions because they fear unless there is open auction competition for an item they might be getting ripped off. I will routinely offer items for say 1000 on my CAF that collectors wont buy. I put it in the item appropriate auction, and the vast majority of time i meet or exceed that value. I pay for premium access, i use a high resolution scanner, Im known, and I put all appropriate key words in the searches on the hobby's biggest platform (aka im doing whats needed to make the sale). The only reason i can find why this happens so often is that folks want to feel sure its a fair price and dont want to commit til that know they will miss out on it if they don't pony up before it ends. This is always a fun topic to me, sorry if it seems a little dry to others. After 30 years of buying and selling this stuff it still fascinates me, talk about sickness LOL.

The issue with this is the definition of "FMV". Its not like there is a stock exchange for this, or some set of rules that dictate what the price can and cant be. I can show the same piece (in fact i just did last week) to multiple dealers/buyers/flippers/collectors and got price range estimates from 4500-18000 for the same piece. Non of them had what i felt was ulterior motives for low balling or over estimating its price. They all just , with their years of experience and reviewing the same data for current as-similar-as-possible auction results, came to different evaluations as to value. Even using the something more stable like "recent auction comparatives" is dicey because some auctions do better on some pieces than others. I have a few times purchased items from one auction, and the next year put into a more suited auction to see a 40-60 percent price increase. Because of that and just normal site bias and overall competition for a specific type of piece based on items available ATM and available buyers ATM....nailing down 100% FMV within even 20-33% is rather dicey. As you clearly know pieces by the same artist from the same run with similar characters can vary wildly as you know just based on panel layout/eye appeal, historic significance, nostalgia, and availability of similar material at the moment and similarly motivated buyers ATM.

Thats amazing, not some rich celebrity or billionaire but a man of average means giving life changing money away to help the less fortunate....wow

The more i look at it, the more i like it.

Its perfect. Signature means nothing when its that special. Great piece, congrats!

I dont pick up much stuff for me anymore, less then 5 pieces a year on average (sometimes 1 or none). In 2018 I picked up a few but decided to actually share one publically cause it was special to me. My only lowry addition, the cover to 249 Daredevil. Its posted now, it means a lot to me.

Im wondering if Ditkos collection (well what he left in piles around his office for 60 years) is gonna start leaking onto Heritage and thats what we will be seeing....OR if folks know its coming and are just posting stuff for sale now to get in ahead of the wave coming from far away.

Honestly it didnt make sense he would have one glaring fake in the pile of real. I should have trusted my gut and bid, worse case i return it if print...oh well.

is it possible that it was a prelim?