Wally's Comics

The classic gem that started this thread...

On 2/1/2023 at 10:58 PM, JollyComics said:

Those Church books were neatly stacked on the wood shelves inside the curtains. Chuck Rozanski found them inside the bungalow house.

weren't some of these packed in or near cedar and still smell of that wood?
or am I thinking of a different ped?

On 2/9/2023 at 9:12 AM, theCapraAegagrus said:

If origin stories aren't that sought-after, it may never have its day. I've only really ever heard about Batman's origin issue being highly desired, but that's also a Golden Age book, so that's another factor to consider.

I guess I am too much a fan boy for many of these speculations -   

That said - Even though I'm a marvel head, I've always said the best book from cover to back cover (when you factor all - writing, art, inking, cover art etc)
is a DC - Batman 251. It's kind of funny, but a decade ago before that book blew up, I talked to Neal over dinner that he should take a bow for Bats 251
His reply is even better - "which book is that?"       

On 2/9/2023 at 6:58 AM, theCapraAegagrus said:

And there are different levels of significance; Supply and demand determine how a 1st interior appearance vs 1st cover appearance shakes out financially.

most definitely, there are many factors...
like I'm still waiting to see if Strange Tales 115 will ever see it's day
it has to be one of my fav Marvel Origin story books - yet since he still isn't on the cover no one gives a flip about it
I feel it is mainly bought for other factors (2nd sandman and an early spidey crossover), oh well...

On 2/8/2023 at 10:03 AM, theCapraAegagrus said:

The market doesn't decide what a "first appearance" is, the market only decides how much the first appearance is worth compared to first cover appearance, etc. A first is a first regardless of how much anyone is willing to pay.

So I guess it could be broken down further on the terms of the definition of what a first appearance is.
Just like a philosophy of Art conundrum "what is Art?" and Many experts on that topic all point to the significance why it is important to define it so...
i.o.w. why would someone care 90% of the time on what is really a first app or not - if it wasn't for the fact of the importance of value?
I'm not saying that value dictates what is a 1st app actually is - but I do think it's what makes the book significant.

for example: AF15 and ASM 1 in the 90's were shockingly close in value in the OSPG
I thought this was 100% absurd because the 1st app is always the book to have. Yet I could only guess that the underlier of this stat was the novices that didn't understand ASM 1 wasn't the 1st app.
Could they have just only wanted the 1st issue of ASM? Is that what drove the price? 
I don't believe that. It may have sold some copies, but not created significant demand to make it close...

That's why I personally feel ASM 1 to be the most over rated key IMHO (and this comes from a Spidey Die-Hard)...
I still won't give up my copy so don't ask for it!  

just purty!

On 2/7/2023 at 3:02 PM, trademarkcomics said:

Those in-house ads were debunked a long time ago. They came out after #180. Regardless, only in-story appearances should count. Not everyone buys preview mags(I know I didn't when I was a kid, still rarely do...I like to be surprised), or even looks at the ads while they read a comic. 

Was Destro's first appearance in one of those tv commercials they had in the 80s for the comic? We have to draw the line somewhere. 

It's called a joke... 
Anyway, we can argue until our faces turn blue - and It steals a real collector's feelings, but it's the market that decides what is relevant.
My head did a 180 when I saw FF 49 start to creep on FF 48 price wise - but the market decided that the first cover app is important for SS
(or are we really trying to tell ourselves that the 1st full Galactus is all that and a bag of chips -lol).

FOOM 10 is another crazy outlier, but it's what the market decides...

I've seen stranger things happen.

On 2/7/2023 at 2:31 PM, THE_BEYONDER said:

Hulk 180 - 1st appearance of Wolverine 

Hulk 181 - 1st Full Wolverine story 

Just get rid of the term ‘cameo’ because it doesn’t apply at all

The Inhouse ads first appearances too??? 

Heaven Forbid! 

On 2/7/2023 at 12:15 PM, buttock said:

To be fair, there probably is a crow in that book somewhere. 

Holy Smokes! This old thread is STILL going...  lol!

Wow! just a real beauty!

Wow!

On 5/5/2021 at 10:28 PM, Nic8612 said:

Eerie 14 - $900

 

NOW $700!!!

Another really tough book, only 10 on the census, but this one is actually in good condition! I'd say its in the 3.0-4.0 range.  Everything is still bound nice and tight and there's even still a bit of gloss on the cover

 

take it, per pm!

1 hour ago, sagii said:

Super-Mystery Comics v5 #1 (GD-). Tough baby napping cover. Cover detached, split at bottom of spine, tanning inside cover, small piece of tape on inside upper left corner of front cover. Asking $100

Take!

1 hour ago, sagii said:

Headline Comics #6 (VG-) Great WWII cover. Staple pull, slight miswrap. Clip indentation in top of book (from how it was likely displayed at the newsstand all those years ago). 

Features one of the best Hitler splashes of all time. Undervalued series imho. Asking $300

Take!

What a ballsee story too! I'm not old enough to imagine how this book flew off the shelves because of the different direction - just look at the ho-hum cover of 38... maybe Ditko didn't want to go in this direction so much and Stan was needling him to change his mind that his work slid a bit??? 36, 37 and 38 were a lil sleepy especially when you compare them to any Romita cover... Even though Ditko started the design and feel of ASM this change was needed. This Romita realism look really flushed these characters that Ditko created out! and it all started with this issue...

6 hours ago, Nic8612 said:

Mysteries 3 - $200

If this is still around, I'll take it!

45 minutes ago, jbpez said:

 

Children, drugs and akcohol have ruined my life...

9 hours ago, Polonsky said:

That's my #1 as well! Congrats on owning one!!! I'd be happy with a low grade copy.

I got to physically read one, that was the closest I ever came to that book... lol!

14 hours ago, AlphaOmega said:

Wow Comics #25 Fine 6.0 OW/W pages  SOLD

Dust shadow along spine and on back cover

 

He was just reading the newspaper... lol!

2 minutes ago, zoso99 said:

SG Lois Lane CGC 9.4 W

$70

That cover is about as strange and esoteric as it gets...
Those funky 70's... Dig It!

 

oh snap! is you're avatar maskatron? Too dope!

36 minutes ago, Polonsky said:

 

Both of these are insanely awesome and just made my day! I definitely need a Stalinpuss. 

Awesome! now you can quit yer Stalin, and post more books!