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RICKYBOBBY

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    Greg Capullo Original Art?

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    So the request feature was broken on the piece I wanted. Luckily I was able to find their email address and I got a quick response back from Jamie.

    I agree on the prices for the Batman stuff but Spawn 32 cover for 6k? Or the Spawn 95 cover for 8k? I grabbed the Spawn 95 cover since it was the last left but thought they were slightly under priced. Both inked by McFarlane.

    RickyB

    The OFFICIAL "This week in your ORIGINAL ART collection?"

    in Original Comic Art

    Posted · Edited by RICKYBOBBY

    50 minutes ago, artdealer said:

    Might have to reconsider selling you any other Sin City pages in the future.

    MI

    That would be unfortunate but I don't get why? What would you have preferred I done? Return you the piece? I don't usually attempt to return art I have purchased. Also, there is a potential I will lose money when it's auctioned so why should it matter? 

    Besides - there are times you purchase art online and when you get it in hand it looks different.

    Always like dealing with you Mitch but don't understand what the hard feelings would be? (shrug)

    RickyB

    HA May Auction, lots of great art !

    in Original Comic Art

    Posted · Edited by RICKYBOBBY

    6 minutes ago, stinkininkin said:

    Where do you see the GL 76 cover? (shrug)  I'd be shocked if it was for sale.

    Sorry guys it is the stat cover. I should have looked closer! 

    I was talking to a person at Heritage and he called this a "monster" auction with lots of material. Will be interesting to see what else pops up.

    The OFFICIAL "This week in your ORIGINAL ART collection?"

    in Original Comic Art

    Posted

    7 hours ago, RICKYBOBBY said:

    New addition to my collection is a cover recreation done by Herb Trimpe. He did most recreations on small paper but this was done on a full size 11 x 17 board. The logos and lettering are also all hand drawn.

    Thanks for looking!

    http://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=1461449

     

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    And added my first Kirby Sinnot page!

    Check it out: http://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=1461570

     

     

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    Jack Kirby Collector - Cover Art

    in Original Comic Art

    Posted · Edited by RICKYBOBBY

    16 hours ago, romitaman said:

    So YOU bought this from my buddy in CA. I told him recently to SELL SELL SELL!!!!!!  He wasnt gonna sell but i'm glad he finally did....... congrats. ( I had a hard time asking 12k for that just 2-3 years ago...)  it's quite amazing how just a few years can change the market for certain pieces. it's certainly worth a lot now!) Glad it went to a good home. congrats!

    Thanks Mike! Your buddy Mike thought about it long and hard before selling it. I think Black Panther is one Jack Kirby creation that hasn't got its due, until now.

    Going forward I can see him up there with Thor, Cap and FF. He also didn't do much BP art which makes this piece a little more special.

    There was a BP cover that just auctioned at comiclink for 20k. I heard back in 2009-2010 that cover didn't even hit a reserve price of 9500. Long time ago but I thought it was a weaker cover (it was Kirbys last on the run).

    And that sale is what mainly drove me to seal the deal on this beauty.

     

    Jack Kirby Collector - Cover Art

    in Original Comic Art

    Posted

    Thanks for the awesome comments everyone!

    And I really like the last comments made about Jack. Never meet him but in his videos he does seems really humble and peaceful. And to be creating black super heroes during those turbulent times is just a show of how far ahead he was even in his own time.

    Just a great overall human being.

    RickyB

    Art Prices

    in Original Comic Art

    Posted

    2 hours ago, AnkurJ said:

    So would we say that

    character >>> artist >>> content 

    is the order of decision when looking at a piece to buy?

    Nice one sentence to sum up 8 pages of posts? 

    I think you are on the right track but a few points. Should add historical importance ( seems like that is a big driver in price) and as JJ mentioened where does nostalgia land? I also think the order should have artist should go before character?

    But pretty good break down Ankur!

    Art Prices

    in Original Comic Art

    Posted

    10 minutes ago, Bronty said:

    Agreed, but do you know why that is?   Because Gil Kane didn't have a long run on ASM.    Context.   Not because Kane's a worse artist.   

    In fact for my money Kane was the stronger cover artist.     You say Romita was Marvel's art director , fair point, well, if you look at the 1975-1980 period I bet Kane did more covers in that span than any other artist in comics.   He was dynamite with layout.   Some of the strongest covers from the Romita period are the ones where Kane was involved IMO.    98, 101, 129, 151 etc.    Now interiors Romita was better but covers, no contest, Kane... IMO.

    However, I will grant you faces weren't Kane's strong suit so maybe a #100 style cover just isn't Kane's baileywick period.

    He did a lot of covers. Good a laying out but his drawing of characters and action are not attractive as Romita's.

    It's why you would have Romita redo Kane's faces on some of these covers.

    But you posted a good point. A piece of comic history by low end artist could trump a nice cover by a high end artist.

    But for me, I would go with the cheaper better image cover vs the history and save my money.

    My 2c

     

    Art Prices

    in Original Comic Art

    Posted

    25 minutes ago, Bronty said:

    Let's assume that you are right and he is the second coming of Raphael?

    Who cares?    The market doesn't - Liefeld is hot right?    And this thread is about prices.

     

    All I really want out of this thread is a little intellectual honesty at the end of the day.     Good, solid artist and certainly able to deliver what Marvel wanted at the time.    But it stops there, and the prices have frankly little or nothing to do with his artistic skill.    Again, he DID have skill.    But that's way down the list of what the market values.

    So when people start talking about ASM 100 being beautifully rendered (as was the conversation earlier) being the reason it did so well - that's IMO not being honest with oneself.

    The reasons it did so well, in order, are 

    1) marvel

    2) ASM

    3) many characters on cover

    4) #100

    5) Last, and definitely least, the skill of the artist.

     

    Why do I care?   Well, because this debate doesn't just apply to ASM 100 covers.    It applies to a wide swath of comic and non comic art.    Its a critical thought IMO because it gets to the very heart of what the market values - CONTEXT of artwork.    Much, much more so than actual skill in artwork.

    And its utterly obvious when you accept it as the truth.  Take the Hulk 181 cover.   It wouldn't matter if Frazetta drew the cover to Hulk 183, say.    181 would still be worth more than 183.     Good context (1st app of major character) trumps good skill every time.

    I can agree with that list from 1-5 for this cover. However, if let's say Gil Kane drew this cover, I don't think it would have gone over 250k.

    Art Prices

    in Original Comic Art

    Posted · Edited by RICKYBOBBY

    7 minutes ago, Bronty said:

    And you don't think part of that reason is personality rather than draftsmanship skill?    When you hire a foreman like he was, what do you look for?    The right mental makeup most of all.

    Both. Here is an example of his draftsmanship skill..

    "Stan Lee showed me  Ayers' splash page for a Daredevil and asked me, 'What would you do with this page?' I showed him on a tracing paper what I would do, and then he asked me to do a drawing of Daredevil the way I would do it. I did a big drawing of Daredevil ... just a big, tracing-paper drawing of Daredevil swinging. And Stan loved it."

    So not just personality. His layout skills were impeccable and just outright better then anyone around at that time.

     

    Art Prices

    in Original Comic Art

    Posted

    2 minutes ago, Bronty said:

    Great.   Please show me the Romita ASM cover that has sold for less than one of his romance covers.

    You're deliberately missing the point.    All the other stuff you want to show me is all varying shades of marvel fanboy.   (slightly 'off ASM' brand but not too much). 

    You really think virtually ANY of his stuff would be worth more than the odd four figure amount if he hadn't worked on ASM and or marvel in general?    If he had done... oh... Charlton war comics, do you think we are having this conversation?    Do you think that a Romita Charlton war cover is getting more than whatever negligible sum those already go for?

    Why compare romance? Take anything else Marvel. Like that Defenders cover.

    If he didn't work on ASM or any other Marvel stuff yeah then yeah his stuff wouldn't sell for much.

    But we are acting like he was just handed the job. He EARNED it with his vision and high artistic skills.